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Alma dies without causing a major disaster; tornadoes rip Midwest
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 3:03 PM GMT en Mayo 30, 2008 +1
Tropical Storm Alma has dissipated over the high mountains of Honduras, and thankfully did not dump enough rain to cause a major flooding disaster in Central America. At 3pm EDT yesterday, Alma became the first tropical storm since records began in 1949 to make landfall on the Pacific coast of Central America. All previous Eastern Pacific storms have hit Mexico, which is considered part of North America. Alma came ashore in Nicaragua, near the Honduras border, as a tropical storm with 65 mph winds. So far, one person has been killed in Nicaragua, due to a fallen power cable. However, Alma has not dumped enough rain to cause widespread flooding--rainfall amounts in Nicaragua the past two day have been 3-8 inches. Costa Rica has had rains of similar magnitude, which have caused isolated mudslides that have blocked roads. Additional rain from Alma's remnants should total less than two inches in Costa Rica and four inches in Nicaragua. However, Honduras, El Salvador, Belize, Guatemala, and Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula are likely to get 4-8 inches of rain over the next two days from this system, which could cause significant flooding and mud slides.


Figure 1. Current satellite image of Alma's remnants.

There is a large area of disturbed weather that has developed in the Western Caribbean between Jamaica and the Yucatan Peninsula in the past few hours, in association with a trough of low pressure extending from the center of Alma. This morning's 7:37am EDT QuikSCAT pass showed winds of up to 50 knots (58 mph) in this region, but no hint of a circulation or wind shift. It is possible that this disturbed area could start to develop on its own later today, as a westward-moving tropical wave currently near Jamaica interacts with it. This area should expand and spread into Honduras, Belize, and Mexico's Yucatan by Saturday. However, I'm not expecting a major flooding disaster with heavy loss of life anywhere in Central America from Alma's remnants. The GFS model is predicting that moisture from Alma will eventually work its way north and bring heavy rains to Florida by June 7. No models are predicting a tropical storm in the Atlantic during the coming week.


Figure 2. Doppler radar winds from the Kearney, Nebraska tornadoes of May 29, 2008. Note that a twin set of vorticies appears in this image, denoting that two adjacent tornadoes may have hit.

Tornadoes rip the Midwest again Thursday; tornadoes expected today in Illinois, Indiana, and Missouri
Numerous strong tornadoes raked the Midwest last night, adding to the extensive damage already wreaked by one of the worst months of tornado damage in U.S. history. Last night's most significant destruction occurred in Jewell, Kansas, and Kearney, Nebraska. In Jewell, numerous businesses were destroyed and the town water tower toppled. In Kearney, multiple twisters hit, and a 90-car train was knocked off of its tracks. Wunderblogger Mike Theiss caught up to the Kearney tornado, and describes his experience in his blog today. All told, there were 55 tornado reports Thursday, but no deaths or injuries.

The Storm Prediction Center is calling for a "Moderate" risk of severe weather across Illinois, Indiana, and Missouri this afternoon---one level below their "High" risk level that was posted yesterday. Expect another significant tornado outbreak today. The Weather Underground Severe Weather page and Tornado page are good places to go to follow the severe weather. Also, tune in to the chase accounts and awesome storm photos from Wunderblogger Mike Theiss. Mike is in Tornado Alley this week, performing his annual chase efforts.

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1101. IKE 11:33 AM GMT en Mayo 31, 2008    
1100. extreme236 6:31 AM CDT on May 31, 2008
90L off the Navy site...could be interesting what might happen.


Could be an upgrade coming.
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1102. extreme236 11:33 AM GMT en Mayo 31, 2008    
Here is this graphic as well:

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1103. extreme236 11:34 AM GMT en Mayo 31, 2008    
I see no reason for them to have taken off if they weren't going to give it an upgrade, so we will see.
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1104. guygee 11:37 AM GMT en Mayo 31, 2008    
Re:1094. TheWeatherMan504,1095. TerraNova
Those waves coming off of Africa are most impressive indeed! I am starting to wonder if we will see an early and strong Cape Verde season similar to 1996. The strength and number of waves are just two factors. I think it would be an interesting comparison to see how other conditions are setting up this year compared to 1996.
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1105. extreme236 11:40 AM GMT en Mayo 31, 2008    
90L actually looks kind of like Humberto did shortly before it became a TD.
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1106. TerraNova 11:42 AM GMT en Mayo 31, 2008    
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1107. TheWeatherMan504 11:43 AM GMT en Mayo 31, 2008    
1105. extreme236 11:40 AM GMT on May 31, 2008
90L actually looks kind of like Humberto did shortly before it became a TD.


OMG your right

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1108. WPBHurricane05 11:44 AM GMT en Mayo 31, 2008    
Looks like 90L is making landfall Link

Could develop after it exits the Yucatan Peninsula.
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1109. TerraNova 11:45 AM GMT en Mayo 31, 2008    
I'm not sure if this means anything, but the NOAA FTP server has just put up a document labeled invest_RENUMBER_ep902008_ep012008.ren which has the system as EP 01 instead of invest 90. This may be an upgrade to TD status. Minimum central pressure is down to 1003 mb on the latest update.
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1110. TheWeatherMan504 11:46 AM GMT en Mayo 31, 2008    
EP 01 maybe means East Pacific 01???
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1111. Cavin Rawlins 11:48 AM GMT en Mayo 31, 2008    
1100. extreme236 7:31 AM AST on May 31, 2008
90L off the Navy site...could be interesting what might happen.


I dont think its permanent.

An invest is an area of disturbed weather peristing for more than 24 hrs and has the potential to develop into a tropical cyclone and/or affect land/DOD.

DOD - Department of Defense
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1112. TerraNova 11:49 AM GMT en Mayo 31, 2008    
EP 01 maybe means East Pacific 01???

This FTP server is meant for the Atlantic basin. Server address (copy and paste into browser):

ftp://ftp.tpc.ncep.noaa.gov/atcf/tcweb/
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1113. Josh305 11:49 AM GMT en Mayo 31, 2008    
Hi guys,
I'm new here and just wanted to introduce myself. I'm just a huge weather nut and I have been reading this blog for about a year and a half especially after experiencing Hurricane Wilma and Katrina here in Miami. I figured I would join so that I may ask questions periodically.

I was curious if you guys all have degrees in Meteorology?
1114. weathermanwannabe 11:49 AM GMT en Mayo 31, 2008    
Good Morning.....
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1115. nrtiwlnvragn 11:50 AM GMT en Mayo 31, 2008    
1109. TerraNova

Thats when they changed what became Alma from an invest in the Pacific to ep012008.
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1116. TexasRiverRat 11:50 AM GMT en Mayo 31, 2008    
Any one have a link to one of them Cancun Radars?
1117. KoritheMan 11:52 AM GMT en Mayo 31, 2008    
I was curious if you guys all have degrees in Meteorology?

A few here do, and a few here are studying meteorology.
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1118. TerraNova 11:53 AM GMT en Mayo 31, 2008    
Thats when they changed what became Alma from an invest in the Pacific to ep012008.

Ya, you're right LOL I have to look at the date stamp next time. I skipped over the file labeled AL902008.invest. Current data for the invest (our invest) says it is still an invest:

AL, 90, 2008053100, , BEST, 0, 169N, 875W, 30, 1005, LO, 34, NEQ, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1011, 250, 75, 0, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, INVEST, M,
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1119. extreme236 11:54 AM GMT en Mayo 31, 2008    
I don't think it means anything cause the date on it is May 29th
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1120. Cavin Rawlins 11:54 AM GMT en Mayo 31, 2008    
I was curious if you guys all have degrees in Meteorology?

AD in only tropical met...I choose to specialised in that area. If you must know...I suck at severe weather.
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1121. TheWeatherMan504 11:55 AM GMT en Mayo 31, 2008    
The mexican radars are down due to Dean but here is the cuban radar


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1122. TerraNova 11:55 AM GMT en Mayo 31, 2008    
Any one have a link to one of them Cancun Radars?

All of the radars on the Yucatan are currently offline. Link
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1123. TheWeatherMan504 11:57 AM GMT en Mayo 31, 2008    
bachelors degree in meteorology, journalism, hydrology.
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1124. Cavin Rawlins 11:57 AM GMT en Mayo 31, 2008    
90L is rather impressive..

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1125. weathermanwannabe 11:59 AM GMT en Mayo 31, 2008    
That 90L does look impressive this am, and may even get to TD status in a few, but, not enough room for it to develop further before significant interaction with land.....
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1126. TheWeatherMan504 11:59 AM GMT en Mayo 31, 2008    
I agree weather456
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1127. Cavin Rawlins 12:00 PM GMT en Mayo 31, 2008    
At the SSD website, which satellite loops do u guys find better for floaters "Long or Short"
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1128. TheWeatherMan504 12:01 PM GMT en Mayo 31, 2008    
Its either stationary or drifting slowly.The weather channel is making a big deal about 90l.
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1129. weathermanwannabe 12:01 PM GMT en Mayo 31, 2008    
1123. TheWeatherMan504 7:57 AM EDT on May 31, 2008
bachelors degree in meteorology, journalism, hydrology.


Bachelors degree in Political Science, "Imaginary" Degree in Tropical Meteorology.....Lol

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1130. TexasRiverRat 12:01 PM GMT en Mayo 31, 2008    
Thankx Weatherman & Terra. I had them they were just at home? What a nice place that would be to be today.
1131. TheCaneWhisperer 12:04 PM GMT en Mayo 31, 2008    
Morning All.

31/0845 UTC 17.8N 87.4W T1.5/1.5 90L -- Atlantic Ocean

Chart Here

Close to TD status.
1132. Cavin Rawlins 12:06 PM GMT en Mayo 31, 2008    
First good visible image

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1133. Josh305 12:06 PM GMT en Mayo 31, 2008    
That's cool. I'm more of one of those idiots that go out and film hurricanes :)
Hurricane Wilma

1134. all4hurricanes 12:07 PM GMT en Mayo 31, 2008    
I cant film hurricanes we don't get any
*sniffle*
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1135. TheCaneWhisperer 12:08 PM GMT en Mayo 31, 2008    
Thanks 456. I am sure SJ is exited to see the first visible as well. He seemed to be going through a bit of a withdrawal last night
1136. TheWeatherMan504 12:08 PM GMT en Mayo 31, 2008    
Josh305 i saw your video on youtube its good stuff.
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1137. TheCaneWhisperer 12:08 PM GMT en Mayo 31, 2008    
I design/sell cabinetry lol.
1138. Cavin Rawlins 12:10 PM GMT en Mayo 31, 2008    
Also:

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1139. extreme236 12:11 PM GMT en Mayo 31, 2008    
I noticed that even if 90L does not become a depression before moving inland, the NHC's marine warning graphic says it could in the BoC.
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1140. weathermanwannabe 12:14 PM GMT en Mayo 31, 2008    
Tropics "looking" rather impressive day before June 1st; I mentioned last week that sheer values will make or break this season; if the sheer stays relatively calm around MDR and closer to home in the Caribbean, we could actually see a few depressions/storms in June/June and "kick off" quite a Cape Verde season.....Basically a blob watching "heaven" this year....
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1141. TheWeatherMan504 12:14 PM GMT en Mayo 31, 2008    
That Tropical wave off of africa is very inpressive maybe 91L??
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1142. TheCaneWhisperer 12:15 PM GMT en Mayo 31, 2008    
1143. all4hurricanes 12:17 PM GMT en Mayo 31, 2008    
Josh305
welcome aboard
and no we don't all have degrees in meteorology
this is really just for all weather fanatics that specialize with hurricanes
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1144. weathermanwannabe 12:19 PM GMT en Mayo 31, 2008    
1141. TheWeatherMan504 8:14 AM EDT on May 31, 2008
That Tropical wave off of africa is very inpressive maybe 91L??


Respectfully, I think it is way too "far out" and these CV waves needs to hold together a little longer......Would have to clear the African coast, and, move on Westward past the Azores with significant convection still intact....Could be a very long shot...
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1145. TheWeatherMan504 12:21 PM GMT en Mayo 31, 2008    
True TheCaneWhisperer but a day over the yucatan could kill it. EXAMPLE: Catagory 3 Hurricane Isadore sat over the yucatan for a day and it went from a Cat 3 to a 40 mph TS.
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1146. nrtiwlnvragn 12:23 PM GMT en Mayo 31, 2008    
DATE/TIME LAT LON CLASSIFICATION STORM
31/1145 UTC 17.7N 88.4W OVERLAND 90L
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1147. Cavin Rawlins 12:24 PM GMT en Mayo 31, 2008    
Respectfully, I think it is way too "far out" and these CV waves needs to hold together a little longer......Would have to clear the African coast, and, move on Westward past the Azores with significant convection still intact....Could be a very long shot...

U mean cape verdes?
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1148. TheCaneWhisperer 12:31 PM GMT en Mayo 31, 2008    
Agree Weatherman.

Due to the frequency and strength of these waves rolling off Africa, I am beginning to think we'll be on the high side of the predictions from the NOAA with the possibility of a hyperactive season they mentioned as well.
1149. weathermanwannabe 12:32 PM GMT en Mayo 31, 2008    
1147. Weather456 8:24 AM EDT on May 31, 2008....Yeah (CV = Cape Verde) as opposed to other types of "waves" (radiation, UV, etc...)
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1150. Josh305 12:32 PM GMT en Mayo 31, 2008    
Can anyone recommend good software for tracking tropical storms? or just rely on what's on the Net? I mean I must have a hundred weather sites bookmarked.
1151. horsebootz 12:34 PM GMT en Mayo 31, 2008    
Good morning
I am new here as well but I took have been lurking in the shadows for some time. My son is planning to go to either York U. or Dalhousie for Atmospheric sciences. I find the info and conversations here very informative.

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