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Gulf of Mexico disturbance 96L poorly organized, but may develop
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 2:27 PM GMT en Junio 22, 2012 +33
An area of low pressure and heavy thunderstorms in the Southern Gulf of Mexico (designated 96L by NHC Thursday afternoon) is a threat to become a tropical depression this weekend, and all interests along the Gulf of Mexico coast should pay attention to the progress of this disturbance. The disturbance is bringing occasional heavy rains to Western Cuba, South Florida, and Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula. Top winds measured in the surrounding ocean areas this morning were 27 mph, gusting to 34 mph, at the Yucatan Basin buoy between Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula and the Cayman Islands. Our wundermap for the surrounding ocean areas show a ship that measured sustained winds of 30 mph near the western tip of Cuba this morning. Satellite-based surface wind measurements from the newly-available Oceansat-2 scatterometer, courtesy of India, show no signs of a surface circulation. Visible satellite loops show that 96L is less organized than it was Thursday evening, with only a little low-level spin apparent, and a modest area of disorganized thunderstorms. The decrease in organization is probably due to the moderate to high levels of wind shear of 15 - 25 knots over the region. Water vapor satellite loops show a modest region of dry air over the Central Gulf of Mexico, which is interfering with development. Ocean temperatures are 81 - 83°F in the Western Caribbean and Southern Gulf of Mexico, which is about 1°F above average, and warm enough to support formation of a tropical storm. A hurricane hunter mission is scheduled to investigate 96L this afternoon, but this mission will probably be cancelled due to the disturbance's lack of organization.


Figure 1. Morning satellite image of the tropical disturbance 96L in the Southern Gulf of Mexico.

Forecast for 96L
Wind shear is predicted to remain in the moderate range through Saturday night, which is likely low enough to allow 96L to develop into a tropical depression; NHC gave 96L a 70% chance of developing into a tropical depression by Sunday morning, in their 8am EDT Tropical Weather Outlook. By Sunday, wind shear is predicted to increase, limiting 96L's potential for intensification. Where the storm might go is anybody's guess. The GFS model has consistently been predicting that a trough of low pressure pushing off of the U.S. East Coast will be capable of grabbing the disturbance and accelerating it to the northeast across Florida north of Tampa Bay on Sunday or Monday. However, an ensemble of forecasts from the model created by running the model with slight perturbations to the initial conditions shows a wide range of possible tracks, both to the east over Florida, and to the west towards Texas and Louisiana (Figure 2.) The latest ECMWF model run (00 UTC) predicts that the trough will not be strong enough to pull 96L northeastwards across Florida. The ECMWF predicts that a ridge of high pressure will build in over the Southern U.S., forcing the disturbance westwards across the Gulf of Mexico and into South Texas by Thursday. The UKMET model also favors a track west towards Texas. The NOGAPS model takes 96L to the northwest into Louisiana/Texas by Monday.


Figure 2. Which way will 96L go? The GFS model, when run at low resolution with 20 slightly different perturbations to the initial conditions in order to generate an ensemble of different forecasts, shows two distinct possibilities: a sharp east turn to move over Florida, or a west or northwest motion towards Louisiana or Texas. The high-resolution official GFS forecast is shown in white.

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3052. islander101010 12:20 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2012    
Quoting CybrTeddy:
If we get Debby today, it would be the first time in history that 4 named storms formed in the Atlantic before July and the first time since 2005 that two named storms formed in June.
does.it.matter?
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3053. rudyinpompano 12:20 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2012    
Quoting PensacolaDoug:



Time to get rid of those bouys!!!


Well, bouys will be bouys...
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3054. ProgressivePulse 12:20 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2012    
Quoting CybrTeddy:
If we get Debby today, it would be the first time in history that 4 named storms formed in the Atlantic before July and the first time since 2005 that two named storms formed in June.


That's quite remarkable. After 2005, I didn't think we would be breaking any records pertaining to the numbers for a long time.
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3055. Hurricanes305 12:20 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2012    
Quoting ProgressivePulse:
Morning All.

Miami to Brownsville and EVERYTHING in-between gets a look this morning, lol.



It unlikely this system moves west regardless of the models. A more Eastern gulf storm than anything else. The High wont be that strong or east to pick this up it a better chance it will just feel the trough and escape east before the High has a chance to grab it.
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3056. canehater1 12:20 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2012    
Link

Visible Sat. GOM
Good way to see COC....Check the "fronts" box

and click "zoom" then click on the L in the sattelite

presentation until it zooms in tight....
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3057. EcoLogic 12:20 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2012    
Quoting pcola57:


Where are you located?


Gulf breeze proper

Was in Negril on Sunday and experienced the beginnings of this system...its following me.
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3058. FLWeatherFreak91 12:20 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2012    
Quoting yqt1001:
The recon mission for yesterday was canceled around now. It should be a go if it's not canceled within the hour.
It'll go today.
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3059. weatherh98 12:21 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2012    
Quoting MAweatherboy1:

2005 didn't get it's D storm until July 5... That was a pretty memorable storm if I recall correctly.
Yes it was
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3060. Sfloridacat5 12:22 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2012    
Another Florida vs. Texas blog today?

I dropped by for a visit yesterday afternoon and it was like a Preschool playground.
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3062. unknowncomic 12:22 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2012    
Hostile winds are relaxing--I give Debby a 100% to get it going on, then she will get a haircut in 72 hours.
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3063. LargoFl 12:23 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2012    
FLOOD ADVISORY
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MIAMI FL
744 AM EDT SAT JUN 23 2012

FLC086-231345-
/O.NEW.KMFL.FA.Y.0039.120623T1144Z-120623T1345Z/
/00000.N.ER.000000T0000Z.000000T0000Z.000000T0000 Z.OO/
744 AM EDT SAT JUN 23 2012

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN MIAMI HAS ISSUED AN

* URBAN FLOOD ADVISORY FOR...
NORTH CENTRAL MIAMI-DADE COUNTY IN SOUTHEAST FLORIDA...

* UNTIL 945 AM EDT

* AT 740 AM EDT THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED
HEAVY SHOWERS MOVING NORTH ACROSS PORTIONS OF MIAMI-DADE COUNTY. THE
MEDIA REPORTED MINOR FLOODING ACROSS WESTERN KENDALL EARLIER THIS
MORNING. DUE TO SATURATED GROUNDS ACROSS THE AREA...ANY ADDITIONAL
RAINFALL WILL LIKELY RESULT IN FLOODING OF STREET AND FLOOD PRONE
AREAS.

HEAVY RAINFALL WILL CAUSE PONDING OF WATER IN URBAN AREAS, HIGHWAYS,
STREETS AND UNDERPASSES AS WELL AS OTHER POOR DRAINAGE AREAS AND LOW
LYING SPOTS. RUNOFF WILL ALSO CAUSE ELEVATED WATERS LEVELS IN CANALS
AND DITCHES.

LAT...LON 2591 8044 2591 8035 2572 8036 2571 8046
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3064. weatherh98 12:23 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2012    
Quoting Sfloridacat5:
Another Florida vs. Texas blog today?

I dropped by for a visit yesterday afternoon and it was like a Preschool playground.


Lol
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3065. bayoubug 12:23 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2012    
how far north could this move before the east or west turn....
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3066. MAweatherboy1 12:24 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2012    
Quoting Sfloridacat5:
Another Florida vs. Texas blog today?

I dropped by for a visit yesterday afternoon and it was like a Preschool playground.

It'll be even worse today because now the northern Gulf coast is more in play.
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3067. PackManWx 12:24 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2012    
Is there any idea WHEN we will know definitively which direction this storm will go?

Will we know by Monday morning?
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3068. yqt1001 12:24 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2012    
Quoting MAweatherboy1:

It'll be even worse today because now the northern Gulf coast is more in play.


And NHC will probably issue advisories and stuff and start favouring specific people. Imho they will go the central route and go into Louisiana though.
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3069. islander101010 12:24 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2012    
Quoting Grothar:
\

Remember the good old days when we would get 14 or 15?

i.remember.the.80's.2or3
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3070. Stoopid1 12:25 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2012    
Quoting MAweatherboy1:

2005 didn't get it's D storm until July 5... That was a pretty memorable storm if I recall correctly.


Dennis, hit the western panhandle as a cat 3 if I recall correctly.
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3071. ProgressivePulse 12:25 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2012    
Here comes the low shear. Lil surface low sitting in the Bahamas too.

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3072. weathermanwannabe 12:25 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2012    
As far as track, we will all have a better picture after the HH hunters get in later today and start to get their fixes and data for the model runs later tonight.
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3073. LargoFl 12:26 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2012    
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3074. gordydunnot 12:26 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2012    
Yeah, those Mississippi and Alabama bloggers are real trouble makers. J/K.
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3075. TampaCat5 12:26 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2012    
Quoting LargoFl:

Ha! Is BayNews9 wishcasting?
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3076. weatherh98 12:26 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2012    
Quoting yqt1001:


And NHC will probably issue advisories and stuff and start favouring specific people. Imho they will go the central route and go into Louisiana though.


They says they are favoring texas
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3077. Stoopid1 12:27 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2012    
Quoting Sfloridacat5:
Another Florida vs. Texas blog today?

I dropped by for a visit yesterday afternoon and it was like a Preschool playground.


It's pointless now to keep arguing over where this is going to go with any confidence. Anywhere in the gulf is still in play now.
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3078. interstatelover7165 12:27 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2012    
Quoting Sfloridacat5:
Another Florida vs. Texas blog today?

I dropped by for a visit yesterday afternoon and it was like a Preschool playground.
Reminds me of the ol' Sonic v. Mario debates. Ahh, good times.
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3079. caribbeantracker01 12:29 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2012    
if the itcz stayed this far south it can lead to systems like felix,ivan ,emily,dean but with a north component to it this is very dangerous
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3080. pcola57 12:29 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2012    
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3081. weathermanwannabe 12:29 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2012    
Let's try to keep the "frenzy-casting" on the Blog down today until we get the model runs later this evening..........lol.
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3082. LargoFl 12:29 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2012    
..................hardly a raindrop over in the texas area,although there are some minor coastal flood warnings,but thats the same all over the entire gulf i guess
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3083. GPTGUY 12:29 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2012    
Quoting yqt1001:


And NHC will probably issue advisories and stuff and start favouring specific people. Imho they will go the central route and go into Louisiana though.


Yeah I wouldn't be surprised to see TS watches/warnings from Grand Isle, LA. to Indian Pass, FL.(near Apalachicola) posted this afternoon or tonight.
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3084. seflagamma 12:29 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2012    
Quoting CybrTeddy:
If we get Debby today, it would be the first time in history that 4 named storms formed in the Atlantic before July and the first time since 2005 that two named storms formed in June.


And this is a "normal" year..... and in reality it appears it is going to be a "active" year instead.
4 named storms before July is big..

Good morning everyone,

I am going to try and take a peek in here from time to time today while at work.

It looks like no one model agrees where 96L is going...
and isn't the spelling going to be "Debby"????
I thought I saw some other variations earlier back (Not CyberTeddy)


enjoy your weekend!
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3085. FLWeatherFreak91 12:30 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2012    
Quoting bayoubug:
how far north could this move before the east or west turn....
It could go all the way to the bayou's before being shunted eastward.
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3086. ProgressivePulse 12:30 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2012    
Quoting Sfloridacat5:
Another Florida vs. Texas blog today?

I dropped by for a visit yesterday afternoon and it was like a Preschool playground.


I stayed away most the day because of. Seems a little better at night.
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3087. weatherh98 12:30 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2012    
Quoting FLWeatherFreak91:
It could go all the way to the bayou's before being shunted eastward.


Westward*
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3088. Neapolitan 12:31 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2012    
Pressure down another two clicks; winds are holding at 30 knots. Looks like today's the day...

AL, 96, 2012062312, , BEST, 0, 254N, 876W, 30, 1002, LO, 34, NEQ, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1008, 280, 120, 0, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, INVEST, M,
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3089. EcoLogic 12:32 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2012    
Much talk about numbers...numbers are chalked up in the Atlantic where there will sheer this season. Just because we are getting an unusual number of home grown storms early doesn't necessarily mean that we are going to chalk up a huge number of storms this year.
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3090. weatherh98 12:32 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2012    
Quoting GPTGUY:


Yeah I wouldn't be surprised to see TS watches/warnings from Grand Isle, LA. to Indian Pass, FL.(near Apalachicola) posted this afternoon or tonight.


THE NHC SAID THEY FAVORED A WESTWARD MOTION METEOROLOGICALLY
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3091. pcola57 12:33 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2012    
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3092. LargoFl 12:34 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2012    
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3093. overwash12 12:34 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2012    
East coast runner?
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3094. weatherh98 12:34 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2012    
Quoting Neapolitan:
Pressure down another two clicks; winds are holding at 30 knots. Looks like today's the day...

AL, 96, 2012062312, , BEST, 0, 254N, 876W, 30, 1002, LO, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,


Soon to be the Declaration of a named storm me thinks
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3095. FLWeatherFreak91 12:35 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2012    
La dee dah. How I love the ignore feature.
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3096. redwagon 12:35 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2012    
Quoting weatherh98:


They says they are favoring texas

Did anything ever come out of that set of pink French Doors on the Navy site?
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3097. PensacolaDoug 12:36 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2012    
Quoting ilovehurricanes12:
i am prepare for a Cat 2 hurricane with winds up to 100 mph!!




Bully for you.
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3098. GPTGUY 12:36 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2012    
Quoting weatherh98:


THE NHC SAID THEY FAVORED A WESTWARD MOTION METEOROLOGICALLY


Yeah but the Northern Gulf is closer and the further north it moves the closer it gets to the Northern Gulf Coast..once the system takes that westward track assuming it does..then the watches and warnings will be modified from the east and be issued west.
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3099. Tropicsweatherpr 12:37 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2012    
Quoting Neapolitan:
Pressure down another two clicks; winds are holding at 30 knots. Looks like today's the day...

AL, 96, 2012062312, , BEST, 0, 254N, 876W, 30, 1002, LO, 34, NEQ, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1008, 280, 120, 0, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, INVEST, M,


Let's see if they renumber it.
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3100. weathermanwannabe 12:37 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2012    
Irrespective of the current position of the low over the Gulf Eddy, water temps across the Northern Gulf are averaging around the 82 degree mark so she has good SST's to track over.
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3101. LargoFl 12:37 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2012    
SHORT TERM FORECAST
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MELBOURNE FL
700 AM EDT SAT JUN 23 2012

AMZ550-552-555-570-572-575-FLZ041-044>047-053-054 -058-059-064-141-
144-147-231400-
COASTAL VOLUSIA-FLAGLER BEACH TO VOLUSIA-
BREVARD COUNTY LINE 20 NM TO 60 NM OFFSHORE-FLAGLER BEACH TO VOLUSIA-
BREVARD COUNTY LINE OUT TO 20 NM-INDIAN RIVER-INLAND VOLUSIA-MARTIN-
NORTHERN BREVARD-NORTHERN LAKE-OKEECHOBEE-ORANGE-OSCEOLA-
SEBASTIAN INLET TO JUPITER INLET 20 NM TO 60 NM OFFSHORE-
SEBASTIAN INLET TO JUPITER INLET OUT TO 20 NM-SEMINOLE-
SOUTHERN BREVARD-SOUTHERN LAKE-ST. LUCIE-VOLUSIA-
BREVARD COUNTY LINE TO SEBASTIAN INLET 20 NM TO 60 NM OFFSHORE-
VOLUSIA-BREVARD COUNTY LINE TO SEBASTIAN INLET OUT TO 20 NM-
700 AM EDT SAT JUN 23 2012

.NOW...
...SPRINKLES OVER MOST AREAS THROUGH MID MORNING...

THROUGH 10 AM...SPRINKLES OF VERY LIGHT RAIN WILL OVERSPREAD MOST OF
EAST CENTRAL FLORIDA FROM SOUTH TO NORTH. HOWEVER...NO ACCUMULATION
OF RAINFALL IS EXPECTED.

&&

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