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Category 3 Hurricane Irene tracks northwest through the Bahamas
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 8:55 PM GMT en Agosto 24, 2011 +35
Hurricane Irene remains a powerful category 3 this afternoon, with maximum sustained winds of 120 mph. Irene is moving northwest through the Bahamas at 12 mph, and its center has cleared the northern edge of Crooked Island. The next islands in the path of Irene are Rum Cay (population 80) and Cat Island (population 1700), which it will encounter later tonight. Irene will track northeast of Long Island (in the Bahamas) over the next 24 hours. George Town has been reporting wind gusts up to around 40 mph this afternoon, and wind speed will likely increase during the next 12 hours as Irene's center passes about 30-40 miles to their northeast. Long Island in the Bahamas will likely see category 1 winds, which begin at 74 mph. Shelters on New Providence and Grand Bahama are open and ready for business, and Grand Bahama International Airport will remain closed until Irene passes.

Irene continues to look well-organized on satellite, especially compared to yesterday afternoon. Since then, intense upward motion, and therefore strong thunderstorm activity, has encompassed the center on all sides, which has led to a well-defined eye. Throughout the morning, Irene's eye wall has shrunk, and a new eye wall could be developing, although it remains unclear at this point. If this is the case, it could lead to some temporary weakening of the hurricane, which would be good for the Bahamas. This afternoon, Irene's hurricane-force winds extend 50 miles from the center, and tropical storm-force winds extend up to 205 miles from the center. Earlier this morning, an Air Force Hurricane Hunter mission investigated Irene and a NOAA Gulfstream (Gonzo) is currently collecting data around the hurricane.


Figure 1. Microwave satellite imagery of Irene captured at 8am this morning. Image source: Naval Research Laboratory.

Track forecast for Irene
NOAA has continued dropsonde missions today, scouring the atmosphere for data as far north as the waters off of South Carolina. Every bit of upper-air data that the models can ingest will lead to better forecasts and decreased uncertainty. These missions are an investment that pay off. Irene will track through the central Bahamas today, the northwestern Bahamas on Thursday, and approach the Outer Banks of North Carolina on Friday. Beyond this there is a bit of divergence in the models. Both the GFDL and the HWRF are forecasting a landfall on Long Island, New York, and the ECMWF continues to suggest a landfall even further west than that. NOGAPS is still the eastern outlier, which misses the U.S. all together and makes landfall in Canada. Today the official track forecast from the National Hurricane Center agrees with the GFS forecast through Saturday morning, and then diverges ever so slightly to the west of that through Monday. It has become clear over the past 3 days that everyone on the East Coast from North Carolina to Maine should be prepared to feel impacts from Hurricane Irene.


Figure 2. Official track forecast provided by the National Hurricane Center.

Intensity forecast for Irene
Irene continues to be embedded in a large envelope of moisture, and wind shear is expected to remain low to moderate, 5 - 20 knots, for the next three days. With water temperatures very warm, 28 - 30°C, these conditions should allow for intensification to a category 4 hurricane (winds of 131 to 155 mph). The only reliable model that's not forecasting this intensification is the GFS, and this is likely due to its relatively course spatial resolution. The National Hurricane Center expects Irene to intensify to a category 4 tomorrow, with a decrease in intensity back to a category 3 on Friday.

Links
For those of you wanting to know your odds of receiving hurricane force or tropical storm force winds, check out the NHC wind probability product.

Wunderground has detailed storm surge maps for the U.S. coast.

Our Wundermap is also a great resource for tracking hurricanes, with the ability to turn on multiple layers of data, including satellite, official track forecast, and current weather observations from not only the U.S. but the Caribbean and Bahamas, as well. Here's a link to get you started.

Angela
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2251. rushisaband 3:25 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting presslord:


What the hell is a 'hurricane barrier'?!?!?!?!?!



ditto ... LMAO
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2252. Carnoustie 3:25 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting WaterWitch11:
can someone tell me what a ROAB is?



Weather Ballons
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2253. AllStar17 3:25 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting troy1993:
According to reedzone the Weather Channel has already gone into Storm Alert mode..is this official?


No
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2254. Thrawst 3:26 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting atmoaggie:
The directions those wind radii extend may become important...



I like this graphic. Can you send me the link to it? TIA :)
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2255. Tazmanian 3:26 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting TruthCommish:


I'm really starting to like you.



thanks
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2256. 7544 3:26 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
ok another wobble west

whats a 310 movement mean tia
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2257. QPhysFTW 3:26 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting snotly:
The psychic twins predicted a blog rant just before the storm too, they said someone would try to disqualify their powers... that's uncanny! They're good.



Well in that case, I recant everything. They are good! And I'm honored that they've decided to show me up with their prediction of my rant than to use their powers to predict winning lottery numbers. I must be worth millions!
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2258. GTcooliebai 3:26 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting tiggeriffic:


it is called SARCASM... if you KNOW what an ANNULAR hurricane is, you would know they are hard to PREDICT...everyone is CERTAIN where this storm is going so it doesn't meet the CRITERIA... see the SARCASM
Isabel was an annular hurricane.
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2259. Thundercloud01221991 3:26 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting gecko:


If you are within two or three counties of Lake Erie, it's still nasty, but otherwise it is breaking up pretty fast. Warnings for Rochester are aggressive, but already at Syracuse, pretty wimpy.
Buffalo Radar

Whenever in doubt, you can always just pull up the warnings
Link


I am just east of Rochester... the line did appear to be breaking up but now there is a blow up of storms over western Monroe County
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2260. emcf30 3:26 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting hulazigzag:
where do you get that?

Here you go.
Link
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2261. Floodman 3:26 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting presslord:


What the hell is a 'hurricane barrier'?!?!?!?!?!


It's this wall see, and it's made out of ginger bread and fairy dust...LOL

Hell I don't know...what IS a hurricane barrier?
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2262. Patrap 3:26 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
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2263. stormpetrol 3:27 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Link

anyone else see what i see in this? Goodnight!
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2264. RedrumATL 3:27 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting NCHurricane2009:


You know what's funny? We were are blogging 24 hours ago last night that Irene was wobbling off to the left just like we are now...come to wake up she wobbled back to the right big time and has pretty much been following the forecast path from the NHC DEAD ON for the last several hours...

...so you can't take any wobbles seriously until they amount to something significantly to the left. I would say a noteworthy left deviation has developed when Irene's eye passes over Grand Bahama Island and continues going 315 degrees NW...


OF COURSE! I'm looking at a day, not the most recent jog I mentioned. It's collectively below 315 to this hour. I'm not saying anything but that it would scare the hell out of me if I lived where you do - assuming you're east NC. Not wishcasting my friend - promise.
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2265. Orcasystems 3:27 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    





Still well to port on the same consistent course
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2266. presslord 3:27 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting TruthCommish:


I'm really starting to like you.


I saw him first!
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2267. 900MB 3:27 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
I am tossed up on my overnight prediction. I think when I wake up for the 8 am update 110-130mph, depends on how quick the EWRC takes. Warm, warm waters. NHC estimates a peak in 24 hours at 135mph, might be conservative. Most conservative is only 100mph over outer banks. Perhaps a reaction to slight movement west in models and more interaction, but I think we'll know far better this time tomorrow night, obviously!
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2268. HimacaneBrees 3:27 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting Tazmanian:
the best way too ride out the storm in new york is under the subway you will be safe from wind and rain



uhh what about the potential flood water? just sayin
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2269. scCane 3:27 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
New steering layer just updated

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2270. Tazmanian 3:28 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
evere time a storm moves W it comes closer and closer and closer and closer and closer and closer too S FL lol
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2271. Stormchaser2007 3:28 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
12z ECMWF high-res ensembles have pretty much a worst-case scenario for the MA and NE.

Center goes pretty much over NYC.

The ensembles seem to be in very good agreement as well.

Unfortunately I can't post them here.
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2272. JeffM 3:28 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting presslord:


What the hell is a 'hurricane barrier'?!?!?!?!?!


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2273. Patrap 3:28 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
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2274. Remek 3:28 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting presslord:


What the hell is a 'hurricane barrier'?!?!?!?!?!



Jim Cantore
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2275. tiggeriffic 3:28 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting TheoJesse:
This post is for Zoomiami and Tiggerific
It appears that Irene has already started the turn.
If you go to the tropical page on WU and go down to the Irene page, click on the forecast map. When this map comes up ignore it. Toward the upper right click on the storm history thumbnail. Scroll to the bottom where it shows the location data. Subtract the second number from the bottom number on both Lat and Long readings. This gives you the distance traveled in both directions. If the Long. number is larger than the Lat. number, then it is traveling more west than north, and that is the case right now. If you drop the last numbers and go to the #2 and #3 lines, do the same math with that, the number will be smaller. This indicates that the turn is in progress.
For anyone else interested, this is a good tool.
Jesse


i know how to figure it...my posts have been in reference to how much further west she goes before she would have to be traveling due north to make the forecast point of not going more than 77W...we are down to 1.6...that is 2 more runs so approximately 6 hours and she would have to stop moving west at all... any closer than that and it could change the cone is what we were referring to, but thanks, it may have helped a few in here
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2276. hahaguy 3:29 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting stormpetrol:
Link

anyone else see what i see in this? Goodnight!


The almighty turn?
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2277. Tazmanian 3:29 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting Remek:



Jim Cantore



lol
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2278. PrivateIdaho 3:29 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting Floodman:


It's this wall see, and it's made out of ginger bread and fairy dust...LOL

Hell I don't know...what IS a hurricane barrier?


I thought Florida was the hurricane barrier.
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2279. Remek 3:29 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting JeffM:




Darn! I owe you a coke.
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2280. keisa90 3:29 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting yoboi:


just look back at the error rate for GOM storms and how much recon they send veres an east cost threat never seen this much recon for any storm they did not send this much recon for IKE they nevr do for GOM storms it's all politics just mention a threat for NYC or DC and money no object.....


Not a conspiracy guy, but have to agree. Have never seen this much recon.
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2281. Methurricanes 3:30 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting presslord:


What the hell is a 'hurricane barrier'?!?!?!?!?!
A surge Barrier, it blocks a surge it has retractable "doors" that close to block the water, both Providenve and New Bedford have one, but i dont know if New London has one? so CT people do you know?
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2282. SCwannabe 3:30 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting Remek:



Jim Cantore


And Mr. Obama together...nothing will stop them now
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2283. spayandneuter 3:30 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting weather12know:


Also Drury Inn


For the woman that can't find a place to take her dog. She can also call boarding kennels on her route out of the area that she can board her dog. BUT they need to be clear of the area that may be impacted. (I have personally seen whole kennels of animals drowned from storm surge.....it's horrible) and she can also call the Red Cross and they can give her the names of places. Plus local emergency management. They should keep a list of emergency shelters that can take animals. If they want to receive federal funds to recover from the disaster, they MUST have a plan for the animals. It's called the PETS act.

There is someplace that will take them, she just needs to think outside of the box. Bottom line is she and everyone needs to take their animals with them when they evacuate!!
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2284. tiggeriffic 3:30 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting GTcooliebai:
Isabel was an annular hurricane.


here is a list of the hurricanes that met all the criteria of being annular

Link

go to bottom of page...
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2286. HiWay 3:30 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Looks like we're gonna see our new eye clear out soon!
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2287. Floodman 3:31 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting HimacaneBrees:



uhh what about the potential flood water? just sayin


Yep...CAT 2 fills the tunnels...
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2288. reedzone 3:32 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Watching TWC.. They said and I quote "Hurricane Irene could be the most devastating storm in NE history"
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2289. chevycanes 3:32 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
90L looks good. most recent pass from this evening at 2245 utc.

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2290. GTcooliebai 3:32 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting tiggeriffic:


here is a list of the hurricanes that met all the criteria of being annular

Link

go to bottom of page...
whoa! I didn't know Frances was annular, thanks for the link, learn something new on here everyday.
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2291. QPhysFTW 3:32 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting cheeksdr:
definition of precess: execute a circular motion at a right angle to the torque.


Well, almost. A rotating body not underneath the influence of a torque is said to undergo "free precession" -- but that doesn't mean the motion is simple! For many oddly shaped bodies, there are inherent wobbles even in free precession. Fun example: Take something like a hardcover book -- a nice, decently thin, rectangular prism. Throw it into the air, trying to get it to spin nicely along each of its three symmetry axes. Notice anything odd when you try to spin along an axis through the spine? It wobbles like crazy!

By the way, I like your post on the poleward tug of storms. Where'd you find that info? I've a few reservations, since it's applying rigid body mechanics to a fluid dynamics problem, but a lot of the analysis seems reasonable. I'd love to read more.
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2292. vince1 3:32 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting yoboi:


just look back at the error rate for GOM storms and how much recon they send veres an east cost threat never seen this much recon for any storm they did not send this much recon for IKE they nevr do for GOM storms it's all politics just mention a threat for NYC or DC and money no object.....

The lives of career politicians and the continuance of the Wall Street ponzi scheme are more important than some useless eaters down south. :0
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2293. pottery 3:32 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting Floodman:


It's this wall see, and it's made out of ginger bread and fairy dust...LOL

Hell I don't know...what IS a hurricane barrier?

It's a Shower Curt....

oh, never mind.
You all are really dim!

Glad I am not in the Bahama Islands tonight, man!
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2294. geepy86 3:33 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting presslord:


What the hell is a 'hurricane barrier'?!?!?!?!?!

I want one.
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2295. AllStar17 3:33 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
It will be a very close shave for Nassau in the Bahamas.
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2296. njdevil 3:33 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
In the floater I see a storm going true NW and missing its targets right and left.

Wonder when they put out a TS warning for Florida at a bare minimum. Those bands are starting to head for open water and it's not very far from Florida at all.
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2297. MississippiWx 3:33 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Holy crap....Haven't been on in several hours, but 90L is very impressive.

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2298. CaribBoy 3:33 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting stormwatcherCI:
I wouldn't be so sure since it has moved wsw all day today.

24/1145 UTC 13.8N 23.4W

24/1745 UTC 13.6N 26.1W

24/2345 UTC 12.0N 28.6W


We need to watch this as well
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2299. AllStar17 3:34 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting MississippiWx:
Holy crap....Haven't been on in several hours, but 90L is very impressive.



And continuing to move WSW.
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2300. kilgores97 3:34 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting hahaguy:


The almighty turn?


Still looks NW to me.....
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2301. SCwannabe 3:34 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting njdevil:
In the floater I see a storm going true NW and missing its targets right and left.

Wonder when they put out a TS warning for Florida at a bare minimum. Those bands are starting to head for open water and it's not very far from Florida at all.


They can't change the forecast now...
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