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Category 3 Hurricane Irene tracks northwest through the Bahamas
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 8:55 PM GMT en Agosto 24, 2011 +35
Hurricane Irene remains a powerful category 3 this afternoon, with maximum sustained winds of 120 mph. Irene is moving northwest through the Bahamas at 12 mph, and its center has cleared the northern edge of Crooked Island. The next islands in the path of Irene are Rum Cay (population 80) and Cat Island (population 1700), which it will encounter later tonight. Irene will track northeast of Long Island (in the Bahamas) over the next 24 hours. George Town has been reporting wind gusts up to around 40 mph this afternoon, and wind speed will likely increase during the next 12 hours as Irene's center passes about 30-40 miles to their northeast. Long Island in the Bahamas will likely see category 1 winds, which begin at 74 mph. Shelters on New Providence and Grand Bahama are open and ready for business, and Grand Bahama International Airport will remain closed until Irene passes.

Irene continues to look well-organized on satellite, especially compared to yesterday afternoon. Since then, intense upward motion, and therefore strong thunderstorm activity, has encompassed the center on all sides, which has led to a well-defined eye. Throughout the morning, Irene's eye wall has shrunk, and a new eye wall could be developing, although it remains unclear at this point. If this is the case, it could lead to some temporary weakening of the hurricane, which would be good for the Bahamas. This afternoon, Irene's hurricane-force winds extend 50 miles from the center, and tropical storm-force winds extend up to 205 miles from the center. Earlier this morning, an Air Force Hurricane Hunter mission investigated Irene and a NOAA Gulfstream (Gonzo) is currently collecting data around the hurricane.


Figure 1. Microwave satellite imagery of Irene captured at 8am this morning. Image source: Naval Research Laboratory.

Track forecast for Irene
NOAA has continued dropsonde missions today, scouring the atmosphere for data as far north as the waters off of South Carolina. Every bit of upper-air data that the models can ingest will lead to better forecasts and decreased uncertainty. These missions are an investment that pay off. Irene will track through the central Bahamas today, the northwestern Bahamas on Thursday, and approach the Outer Banks of North Carolina on Friday. Beyond this there is a bit of divergence in the models. Both the GFDL and the HWRF are forecasting a landfall on Long Island, New York, and the ECMWF continues to suggest a landfall even further west than that. NOGAPS is still the eastern outlier, which misses the U.S. all together and makes landfall in Canada. Today the official track forecast from the National Hurricane Center agrees with the GFS forecast through Saturday morning, and then diverges ever so slightly to the west of that through Monday. It has become clear over the past 3 days that everyone on the East Coast from North Carolina to Maine should be prepared to feel impacts from Hurricane Irene.


Figure 2. Official track forecast provided by the National Hurricane Center.

Intensity forecast for Irene
Irene continues to be embedded in a large envelope of moisture, and wind shear is expected to remain low to moderate, 5 - 20 knots, for the next three days. With water temperatures very warm, 28 - 30°C, these conditions should allow for intensification to a category 4 hurricane (winds of 131 to 155 mph). The only reliable model that's not forecasting this intensification is the GFS, and this is likely due to its relatively course spatial resolution. The National Hurricane Center expects Irene to intensify to a category 4 tomorrow, with a decrease in intensity back to a category 3 on Friday.

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2201. Detrina 3:15 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting TruthCommish:


Easier for you no? This way you don't have to think.



You really need to make sure you take your medication...
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2202. Tazmanian 3:15 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
they found 951mb and not at center yet

951.2 mb
(~ 28.09 inHg)
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2203. hulazigzag 3:15 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting emcf30:
where do you get that?
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2204. presslord 3:15 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting Tazmanian:
the best way too ride out the storm in new york is under the subway you will be safe from wind and rain


yes...but you'll drown in the flood
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2206. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 3:16 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
T.C.F.A.
XX/INV/90L
MARK
XX.XXN/XX.XXW
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2207. cheeksdr 3:16 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
definition of precess: execute a circular motion at a right angle to the torque.
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2208. Tazmanian 3:16 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting presslord:


yes...but you'll drown in the flood


then they need too year a lifejacket
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2209. Ryuujin 3:16 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
man oh man, what in the world did I miss? I was at work for a bit. Any of the main guys still online? What's shaking? Still looking like a major NY/Boston/DC hit?
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2210. troy1993 3:17 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
According to reedzone the Weather Channel has already gone into Storm Alert mode..is this official?
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2212. NCHurricane2009 3:17 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting RedrumATL:


Holy Crap - that just took yet....another jog left with an expansion of that eye! I beg for experts on here to tell me that I'm not finding this microwave track to have run consistantly BELOW, or right at, 315 all day long, - period! That would scare the SHIZZLE out of me, my wife, and my pets if I were anywhere east of SC. What do ya'll think?


You know what's funny? We were are blogging 24 hours ago last night that Irene was wobbling off to the left just like we are now...come to wake up she wobbled back to the right big time and has pretty much been following the forecast path from the NHC DEAD ON for the last several hours...

...so you can't take any wobbles seriously until they amount to something significantly to the left. I would say a noteworthy left deviation has developed when Irene's eye passes over Grand Bahama Island and continues going 315 degrees NW...
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2213. HurricaneHunterJoe 3:17 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting RitaEvac:
WTH where is everybody


maybe the wish,west,worst casters are together plotting their next move...lol
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2214. want2lrn 3:17 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting reedzone:


That might be another ULL, the one that will be crucial to Irenes path is still at North Carolina, it actually bent the trough, so the trough is weaker. Irene would have to move either south or east of it, cannot run into an ULL, isn't possible I think. It's a complicated forecast really. BTW, TWC is actually already on ALERT MODE for the Northeast. they said in their own words and I quote "HISTORIC" storm in the making. I agree.


Thank you for the info sir.
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2215. presslord 3:17 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting Tazmanian:


then they need too year a lifejacket


fair enough
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2216. jascott1967 3:18 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting Tazmanian:
the best way too ride out the storm in new york is under the subway you will be safe from wind and rain


Wow! You write as if New York is made of sticks and stones and armegeddon is heading there.
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2217. RedrumATL 3:18 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting Tazmanian:
the best way too ride out the storm in new york is under the subway you will be safe from wind and rain


Now Taz...how many can fit down there? :-)
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2218. atmoaggie 3:18 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting SPLbeater:
TS winds extend out to 255 MILES, hurricane force winds extend out 70 MILES from the cnter....steadily growing, but i assume the EWRC got somethin to do with this
The directions those wind radii extend may become important...

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2219. Orcasystems 3:18 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Time: 03:07:00Z
Coordinates: 23.8333N 75.6W
Acft. Static Air Press: 696.3 mb (~ 20.56 inHg)
Acft. Geopotential Hgt: 2,732 meters (~ 8,963 feet)
Extrap. Sfc. Press: 951.5 mb (~ 28.10 inHg)
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2220. rushisaband 3:19 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
these wishcasters wanting a storm are all talk ....blah blah blah. you will get it one year. i know a lot persons on this blog have experienced the misery after being blasted by a major hurricane. some even more than once.... frederick 79 ... opal 95 ... ivan 04 ....dennis 05 and erin in 95 also, even though she was only a cat 1
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2221. Methurricanes 3:19 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Does New London have a Hurricane barrier? I know Providence and New Bedford do
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2222. Seastep 3:20 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting oceanblues32:
i am amazed at how close this thing is to us here in southeast florida and we only have boating advisories up ... it is like at our back door and if only for the what if sake we should be perhaps just a bit more concerned!!


I am leaving the shutters that I keep just laying on the garage roof. Usually would put them up, just so they don't fly off into someone else's house in this situation (about 16 panels that I leave up there so I don't have to lug them up a ladder every time), but hey, I am listening to the authorities.
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2223. mynameispaul 3:20 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting Maryland1:
Time for a lot of us to make a few plans to check on our older people and make some plans for the weekend. I'm not living on the NHC forecast, good as it is. Never a bad thing to be prepared as Red Drum noted. Go East!


Thanks for saying that. Many elder people are terrified of evacuating and refuse to do it. They'd rather take the chance and stay in their homes.
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2224. AllStar17 3:21 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
11:00pm Advisory
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2225. yoboi 3:21 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting vince1:

^Not conspiratorial and even if it reeks of politics, truth is more important than blissful ignorance.


just look back at the error rate for GOM storms and how much recon they send veres an east cost threat never seen this much recon for any storm they did not send this much recon for IKE they nevr do for GOM storms it's all politics just mention a threat for NYC or DC and money no object.....
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2226. Tazmanian 3:21 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting RedrumATL:


Now Taz...how many can fit down there? :-)




the hole citey
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2227. Cat5Hurricane250 3:21 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Reading recon reports the highest flight level winds seem to be in the outer eyewall.
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2228. emcf30 3:21 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
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2229. Col15thTex 3:21 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting beeleeva:
If anyone out there is from the Houston,,Ft Bend County area,,,than radar is showing a massive storm overhead,,,,however,,here in Katy,,we are not getting a drop of rain,,just cloud to cloud and cloud to ground lighting,,,there really is something wrong with the weather!!


Mid level of the atmosphere was too hot and dry. We had a tremendous thunderstorm overhead in Hardin County, but no rain, just virga for at least an hour. Finally got a light rain, but only enough to settle the dust. Still 24+ inches behind in SE Texas.
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2230. snotly 3:21 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
The psychic twins predicted a blog rant just before the storm too, they said someone would try to disqualify their powers... that's uncanny! They're good.

Quoting QPhysFTW:


Man, why is it that every time I pop in here, I seem to see something about how the "psychic" twins "predicted" this event? I'm normally content to lurk or pop in and ask a question, but seriously! Predicting a Cat 4 OR 5 storm, during the climatological peak of the season, and broad brush the east coast from Florida on north as a target? When the predictions of an active season by actual scientists were well publicized?

You see why they do it, though. It really is a win win for them. If (as unfortunately seems to be the case for Irene) something resembling their prediction holds, behold their awesome powers! But what if there was a Category 4 that, say, recurves a couple hundred miles offshore, like Earl? They can still claim a victory, since they were only off a bit in location. That's the thing with vague predictions of events wherein the probability of an event at least resembling the one "predicted" is near 100%. They can't lose.

Anyway. So sorry for the mini rant, but claims of supernatural ability touch a nerve for me. I hate how psychics exploit people, and I'd wager that in the case of Irene here, these "clairvoyants" will use this upcoming tragedy for their own benefit. And that would be shameful.
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2231. Stormchaser2007 3:21 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
18z HWRF

SIMRAD

90



96
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2232. tiggeriffic 3:21 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting TruthCommish:


Easier for you no? This way you don't have to think.


it is called SARCASM... if you KNOW what an ANNULAR hurricane is, you would know they are hard to PREDICT...everyone is CERTAIN where this storm is going so it doesn't meet the CRITERIA... see the SARCASM
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2233. Tazmanian 3:22 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
23.817N 75.483W 696.7 mb
(~ 20.57 inHg) 2,726 meters
(~ 8,944 feet) 951.4 mb
(~ 28.09 inHg)
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2234. Floodman 3:22 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting trey33:


Norcross just said - not kidding - his words...

"the odds favor Irene turning north"


When cousins marry, kiddos
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2235. presslord 3:23 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting Methurricanes:
Does New London have a Hurricane barrier? I know Providence and New Bedford do


What the hell is a 'hurricane barrier'?!?!?!?!?!
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2236. Patrap 3:23 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
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2237. GTcooliebai 3:23 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Here comes the shortwave out of the midwest:

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2238. scCane 3:23 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting wxobsvps:
Here you can see the trough developing over the east coast. Reflected on the CIMMS map as the area of positive vorticity along the eastern seaboard.

However also note the stronger vorticity over northern FL. I imagine that Irene is influenced in that direction in the near term



Use 700mb vorticity, as that is generally where you find ULLs, although than can get deeper too, as seen below in the Eastern GoM at 500mb lvl

The GoM ULL I think is also influencing the firm 310-315 heading for now.



It shows up on the steering layer quite well

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2239. TruthCommish 3:23 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting tiggeriffic:


it is called SARCASM... if you KNOW what an ANNULAR hurricane is, you would know they are hard to PREDICT...everyone is CERTAIN where this storm is going so it doesn't meet the CRITERIA... see the SARCASM


Kisses
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2240. TruthCommish 3:24 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting Tazmanian:




the hole citey


I'm really starting to like you.
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2241. Stormchaser2007 3:24 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
12z ECMWF



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2242. silverstripes 3:24 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Product: Air Force Vortex Message (URNT12 KNHC)
Transmitted: 25th day of the month at 03:19Z
Aircraft: Air Force Aircraft (Last 3 digits of the tail number are 302)
Storm Number & Year: 09L in 2011
Storm Name: Irene (flight in the North Atlantic basin)
Mission Number: 17
Observation Number: 16
A. Time of Center Fix: 25th day of the month at 3:07:20Z
B. Center Fix Coordinates: 23°50'N 75°35'W (23.8333N 75.5833W)
B. Center Fix Location: 140 miles (225 km) to the SE (128°) from Nassau, Bahamas.
C. Minimum Height at Standard Level: 2,685m (8,809ft) at 700mb
D. Estimated (by SFMR or visually) Maximum Surface Wind: 71kts (~ 81.7mph)
E. Location of the Estimated Maximum Surface Wind: 22 nautical miles (25 statute miles) to the WNW (292°) of center fix
F. Maximum Flight Level Wind Inbound: From 45° at 90kts (From the NE at ~ 103.6mph)
G. Location of Maximum Flight Level Wind Inbound: 28 nautical miles (32 statute miles) to the WNW (296°) of center fix
H. Minimum Sea Level Pressure: 953mb (28.14 inHg)
I. Maximum Flight Level Temp & Pressure Altitude Outside Eye: 8°C (46°F) at a pressure alt. of 3,048m (10,000ft)
J. Maximum Flight Level Temp & Pressure Altitude Inside Eye: 16°C (61°F) at a pressure alt. of 3,045m (9,990ft)
K. Dewpoint Temp (collected at same location as temp inside eye): 13°C (55°F)
K. Sea Surface Temp (collected at same location as temp inside eye): Not Available
L. Eye Character: Open in the west
M. Eye Shape & Diameter: Circular with a diameter of 8 nautical miles
N. Fix Determined By: Penetration, Radar, Wind, Pressure and Temperature
N. Fix Level: 700mb
O. Navigation Fix Accuracy: 0.02 nautical miles
O. Meteorological Accuracy: 0.1 nautical miles
Remarks Section:
Maximum Flight Level Wind: 99kts (~ 113.9mph) in the northeast quadrant at 1:41:00Z
Maximum Flight Level Temp: 16°C (61°F) which was observed 10 nautical miles (12 statute miles) to the W/WNW (281°) from the flight level center


General Notes About Vortex Messages:
- Reported winds are usually averaged over a 10 second period. (NHC advisory wind speeds are the highest expected winds averaged over a 1 minute period.)
- The maximum flight level temperature outside the eye (item I.) "is taken just outside the central region of a cyclone (i.e., just outside the eyewall or just beyond the maximum wind band). This temperature may not be the highest recorded on the inbound leg but is representative of the environmental temperature just outside the central region of the storm."
- The maximum flight level temperature inside the eye (item J.) is the "maximum temperature observed within 5 nm of the center fix coordinates. If a higher temperature is observed at a location more than 5 nm away from the flight level center (item BRAVO), it is reported in Remarks, including bearing and distance from the flight level center."
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2243. TheoJesse 3:24 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
This post is for Zoomiami and Tiggerific
It appears that Irene has already started the turn.
If you go to the tropical page on WU and go down to the Irene page, click on the forecast map. When this map comes up ignore it. Toward the upper right click on the storm history thumbnail. Scroll to the bottom where it shows the location data. Subtract the second number from the bottom number on both Lat and Long readings. This gives you the distance traveled in both directions. If the Long. number is larger than the Lat. number, then it is traveling more west than north, and that is the case right now. If you drop the last numbers and go to the #2 and #3 lines, do the same math with that, the number will be smaller. This indicates that the turn is in progress.
For anyone else interested, this is a good tool.
Jesse
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2244. gecko 3:25 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting Thundercloud01221991:
I am in line for that line of storms coming out of Canada into the United States... does it look like it will be as intense here in NY?


If you are within two or three counties of Lake Erie, it's still nasty, but otherwise it is breaking up pretty fast. Warnings for Rochester are aggressive, but already at Syracuse, pretty wimpy.
Buffalo Radar

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2245. charlottefl 3:25 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting GTcooliebai:
Here comes the shortwave out of the midwest:



That looks like it has some punch to it..
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2246. mynameispaul 3:25 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting NCHurricane2009:


You know what's funny? We were are blogging 24 hours ago last night that Irene was wobbling off to the left just like we are now...come to wake up she wobbled back to the right big time and has pretty much been following the forecast path from the NHC DEAD ON for the last several hours...

...so you can't take any wobbles seriously until they amount to something significantly to the left. I would say a noteworthy left deviation has developed when Irene's eye passes over Grand Bahama Island and continues going 315 degrees NW...



The night Rita hit I was expecting it to go in at Houston (that was the forecast). I kept watching it wobble north... long story short... it ended up way closer to me in SW LA than was suppose to. Rough night. The wobbles are very unnerving.
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2247. Patrap 3:25 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    



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2248. Levi32 3:25 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Eyewall down to 8nm wide. It is shrinking, preparing for disintegration as the outer eyewall forms and prepares to take over. Interesting that they don't note concentric eyewalls this time. Perhaps the outer one is ill-defined right now.

000
URNT12 KNHC 250319
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE AL092011
A. 25/03:07:20Z
B. 23 deg 50 min N
075 deg 35 min W
C. 700 mb 2685 m
D. 71 kt
E. 292 deg 22 nm
F. 045 deg 90 kt
G. 296 deg 28 nm
H. 953 mb
I. 8 C / 3048 m
J. 16 C / 3045 m
K. 13 C / NA
L. OPEN W
M. C8

N. 12345 / 7
O. 0.02 / 0.1 nm
P. AF302 1709A IRENE OB 16
MAX FL WIND 99 KT NE QUAD 01:41:00Z
MAX FL TEMP 16 C 281 / 10 NM FROM FL CNTR
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2249. njdevil 3:25 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Doesn't this consistantly seem W of where it should be? Exactly how far NW can it go before it runs into resistance?
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2250. Torgen 3:25 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting presslord:


What the hell is a 'hurricane barrier'?!?!?!?!?!


Someone posted an image of one earlier. A more accurate description would be "storm surge barrier." they look like giant floodgates that can be lowered across the mouth of a bay. 15-20ft high maybe?
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2251. rushisaband 3:25 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting presslord:


What the hell is a 'hurricane barrier'?!?!?!?!?!



ditto ... LMAO
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