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Category 3 Hurricane Irene tracks northwest through the Bahamas
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 8:55 PM GMT en Agosto 24, 2011 +35
Hurricane Irene remains a powerful category 3 this afternoon, with maximum sustained winds of 120 mph. Irene is moving northwest through the Bahamas at 12 mph, and its center has cleared the northern edge of Crooked Island. The next islands in the path of Irene are Rum Cay (population 80) and Cat Island (population 1700), which it will encounter later tonight. Irene will track northeast of Long Island (in the Bahamas) over the next 24 hours. George Town has been reporting wind gusts up to around 40 mph this afternoon, and wind speed will likely increase during the next 12 hours as Irene's center passes about 30-40 miles to their northeast. Long Island in the Bahamas will likely see category 1 winds, which begin at 74 mph. Shelters on New Providence and Grand Bahama are open and ready for business, and Grand Bahama International Airport will remain closed until Irene passes.

Irene continues to look well-organized on satellite, especially compared to yesterday afternoon. Since then, intense upward motion, and therefore strong thunderstorm activity, has encompassed the center on all sides, which has led to a well-defined eye. Throughout the morning, Irene's eye wall has shrunk, and a new eye wall could be developing, although it remains unclear at this point. If this is the case, it could lead to some temporary weakening of the hurricane, which would be good for the Bahamas. This afternoon, Irene's hurricane-force winds extend 50 miles from the center, and tropical storm-force winds extend up to 205 miles from the center. Earlier this morning, an Air Force Hurricane Hunter mission investigated Irene and a NOAA Gulfstream (Gonzo) is currently collecting data around the hurricane.


Figure 1. Microwave satellite imagery of Irene captured at 8am this morning. Image source: Naval Research Laboratory.

Track forecast for Irene
NOAA has continued dropsonde missions today, scouring the atmosphere for data as far north as the waters off of South Carolina. Every bit of upper-air data that the models can ingest will lead to better forecasts and decreased uncertainty. These missions are an investment that pay off. Irene will track through the central Bahamas today, the northwestern Bahamas on Thursday, and approach the Outer Banks of North Carolina on Friday. Beyond this there is a bit of divergence in the models. Both the GFDL and the HWRF are forecasting a landfall on Long Island, New York, and the ECMWF continues to suggest a landfall even further west than that. NOGAPS is still the eastern outlier, which misses the U.S. all together and makes landfall in Canada. Today the official track forecast from the National Hurricane Center agrees with the GFS forecast through Saturday morning, and then diverges ever so slightly to the west of that through Monday. It has become clear over the past 3 days that everyone on the East Coast from North Carolina to Maine should be prepared to feel impacts from Hurricane Irene.


Figure 2. Official track forecast provided by the National Hurricane Center.

Intensity forecast for Irene
Irene continues to be embedded in a large envelope of moisture, and wind shear is expected to remain low to moderate, 5 - 20 knots, for the next three days. With water temperatures very warm, 28 - 30°C, these conditions should allow for intensification to a category 4 hurricane (winds of 131 to 155 mph). The only reliable model that's not forecasting this intensification is the GFS, and this is likely due to its relatively course spatial resolution. The National Hurricane Center expects Irene to intensify to a category 4 tomorrow, with a decrease in intensity back to a category 3 on Friday.

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Wunderground has detailed storm surge maps for the U.S. coast.

Our Wundermap is also a great resource for tracking hurricanes, with the ability to turn on multiple layers of data, including satellite, official track forecast, and current weather observations from not only the U.S. but the Caribbean and Bahamas, as well. Here's a link to get you started.

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1601. aprinz1979 1:24 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting dan77539:


See, Grothar?


At least Norcross said "It looks like it's going to hit Florida, but WE ARE CONFIDENT IT'S GONNA TURN NORTH." I thought I heard those same exact words come out of some meteorologist's mouth!!!! WE ARE CONFIDENT IT'S GONNA GO SOUTH OF PUERTO RICO. GULP
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1602. NJHurricanez 1:24 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
By the looks of the forecast - NYC would get around a 7ft storm surge.
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1603. Neapolitan 1:24 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting VAbeachhurricanes:


Just saying... the fact that the first thing you thought of when you saw his description was that, doesn't that make you the racist?

Anyways, Irene if I may ask politely please turn NE now, please and thank you.

So calling out blatant racism makes one a racist? Seriously?
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1604. dan77539 1:24 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
You know that TWC series "It Could Happen Tomorrow"? THAT was probably hyping up the possibility of catastrophic events. THIS (Irene) is a real disaster that our best models are actually predicting could happen--well, not tomorrow--but in 4-5 days. Houstonians will remember that our local weather guy--Dr. Neil Frank--told us we'd never get the city evacuated in time. We found out in 2005 (Rita) that he was right.
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1605. headshaker 1:24 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting TBird78:


Inner Northwest...290/43rd


Up here in Copperfield power is out and the boomers are raging. Love the storm but if we don't get power back on soon I'll have to get a hotel for the family, they can't take heat!
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1606. hurricanehunter27 1:24 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting RedrumATL:


I would also say anything Cat2 or higher would VERY bad for Manhattan. Downtown ATL experienced an F2 tornado that would have those types of wind speeds. Lots of debris falling, windows lost in skyscrapers, and even death for people on the streets below. But that came on a lot more sudden. At least Time Square and Manhattan in general would be deserted under that forecast. Lives will/would be saved. Still....

I was in that tornado! The wind was crazy when it hit. Next day we had several supercells pass over the same area.
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1607. thelmores 1:24 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting NOWORRIES:
I have been watching this storm closely since it was born. From what I am seeing, this storm is going even further east and will have very little affects on the US Mainland. The biggest concern will likely be beach erosion.

By very little affects what I mean is that in comparison to the dire forecost of a cat 4 running up the coast, this storm will likely be weaker near land and farther off the coast then ever expected. Remember that the worst weather is almost always to the NE of the storm center.


AND YOU BASE ALL THIS ON WHAT EXACTLY?

Your gut feeling?

Your Met degree?

The ants outside your house?

From what I can see in your post, you did not provide even one single speck of data to support your opinion......
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1608. wolftribe2009 1:25 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting 900MB:


Sorry. NYC here. Had to report your post. Obviously and ignorant and racist post. NYC, for the record, voted 80% for Obama, not like that means anything when we are talking about a freakin Cat 2 hurricane headed our way- ya JACKWAGON!


I am with you 900MB, I don't think anyone understand how serious Irene is to the NE. I have been watching storms for years and I cant remember NOAA forecasting a CAT 2 to hit eastern long island. The last hurricane to hit as a CAT 2 was Hurricane Gloria in the 60's

That means a Major Hurricane like this bearing down on the NE is big news
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1609. TruthCommish 1:25 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting FLdewey:
Damage!







Crooked island... maybe more so now?


That is heart-breaking.
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1610. E46Pilot 1:25 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
There are going to be some pretty good x-winds at Ft. Lauderdale airport tomorrow.

KFLL 242335Z 2500/2524 06014G21KT P6SM VCSH FEW029CB BKN250
FM250900 06020G26KT P6SM VCSH SCT030CB BKN100
FM251300 03020G30KT P6SM VCSH SCT030CB BKN050
FM251600 36022G32KT P6SM VCSH SCT025CB BKN050
PROB30 2517/2523 P6SM TSRA BKN025CB BKN050
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1611. VAbeachhurricanes 1:25 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Why so many insensitive comments this evening, how old are we again?
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1612. TBird78 1:25 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting lottotexas:
doesn't look like we will get any of this rain. I'm at 45 & tidwell. office at pinemont & 290


I think you're right. So far just far west. I'm seeing the lightning and hearing a bit of thunder but on radar looks like it's just pushing south. We'll see. Seems like it always skips over us.
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1613. nrtiwlnvragn 1:26 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting streamtracker:
Questions about tornadoes spawned by a hurricane. Do they tend to be produced in any particular sector?


Presentation from the NHC website, CAUTION: 27 megabyte PDF file


Inland Winds & Tornadoes
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1614. CybrTeddy 1:26 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting thelmores:


AND YOU BASE ALL THIS ON WHAT EXACTLY?

Your gut feeling?

Your Met degree?

The ants outside your house?

From what I can see in your post, you did not provide even one single speck of data to support your opinion......


Well.. his avatar is 'NOWORRIES'..

Lotta crazies on this PM..

Guess that's to be expected.. saw it with Earl last year too.
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1615. caneswatch 1:26 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting VAbeachhurricanes:
Why so many insensitive comments this evening, how old are we again?


Some think ignorance is bliss on this blog, and I can count quite a few on this blog. (Ahem)
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1617. VAbeachhurricanes 1:27 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting Neapolitan:

So calling out blatant racism makes one a racist? Seriously?


No, nvm, the point I was asking did not get across obviously. And yes I understand that comment was extremely racist...
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1618. Torgen 1:27 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting bappit:

You are being sarcastic, right? Still got +6 for that remark.


Grothar still hasn't figured out how to use "smiley faces" when he's joking. We're all hoping that they will cover these new-fangled internet message boards on the Golden Girls one day so he will pick it up. ;)
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1619. ncweatherenthus 1:27 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting zingo:
When and if Seymour Johnson AFB in Goldsboro NC starts to move her jets out, then NC is in trouble!


They already announced they were.

http://www2.nbc17.com/news/2011/aug/24/hurricane- irene-has-nc-base-ready-move-jets-ar-1327240/
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1620. E46Pilot 1:27 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting wolftribe2009:


I am with you 900MB, I don't think anyone understand how serious Irene is to the NE. I have been watching storms for years and I cant remember NOAA forecasting a CAT 2 to hit eastern long island. The last hurricane to hit as a CAT 2 was Hurricane Gloria in the 60's

That means a Major Hurricane like this bearing down on the NE is big news


Exactly, those houses out there on the island are made out of sticks.
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1622. Joshfsu123 1:27 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Models continue to shift ever so slightly westward...

The 00z TVCN (average of all the models) has shifted to landfall at the NC OBX and then has shifted westward to landfall again on Long Island, NY.

Link

The NHC path is slightly to the east of the TVCN now and I would expect on the 11pm advisory, you will see the NHC shift it slightly westward.

It will be interesting to see what the GFS, ECMWF, GFDL, and HWRF do tonight and into the morning - is this a trend or will they go back east.
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1623. hurricanejunky 1:27 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
I thought this was an appropriate time to post this:

NOAA: Weather satellites are in jeopardy
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1624. newportrinative 1:27 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting VAbeachhurricanes:


No, nvm, the point I was asking did not get across obviously. And yes I understand that comment was extremely racist...


LET'S END THIS CONVERSATION. WEATHER BLOG!!!!
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1625. TruthCommish 1:27 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting thelmores:


AND YOU BASE ALL THIS ON WHAT EXACTLY?

Your gut feeling?

Your Met degree?

The ants outside your house?

From what I can see in your post, you did not provide even one single speck of data to support your opinion......


Where's your data to invalidate it?
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1626. wolftribe2009 1:27 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting thelmores:


AND YOU BASE ALL THIS ON WHAT EXACTLY?

Your gut feeling?

Your Met degree?

The ants outside your house?

From what I can see in your post, you did not provide even one single speck of data to support your opinion......


I can contradict that the strongest winds are in the NE side of the storm for Irene. I do remember spotting a recon wind estimate in the North West part of the storm earlier today I think or last night but it read at around 95 MPH

Yes the strongest winds are always on the NE side most times but the wind can be strong on the west side too.
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1627. LAnovice 1:28 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    

Sorry didn't get the image -
We who have been in the cone too often get a little testy when people question the necessity for warning - we appreciate the heads up and equality appreciate the heads down....
(Heck in a funny way - makes us all clean up our yards... )

Quoting rkay1:
He was being sarcastic, hence the image of Irene.

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1629. TBird78 1:28 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting headshaker:


Up here in Copperfield power is out and the boomers are raging. Love the storm but if we don't get power back on soon I'll have to get a hotel for the family, they can't take heat!


Yeah, a hotel would be my first choice too. This heat is no joke. I think my air conditioner runs all night long until about 4:30am.
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1630. Patrap 1:28 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Folks need to realize the Storm is not single point as the center is tracked.

This is a LARGE Hurricane and they dont relate the SSS very well as we have seen in recent years.

Impacts count,,and if Irene follows the Intensity Guidance and Track.,,well were going to see a Large Scale MCI possibly.

..and I aint talking about the phone folks either.

Have a plan, have a safe place to go inland away from surge potential .

The decisions one makes the next 48 hrs,,will affect you and your's forever.

Think about it.

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1631. lottotexas 1:29 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting TBird78:


I think you're right. So far just far west. I'm seeing the lightning and hearing a bit of thunder but on radar looks like it's just pushing south. We'll see. Seems like it always skips over us.
The heat island inside beltway 8 keeps all WEAK stuff away. Always circles around us.
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1632. TruthCommish 1:29 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting FLdewey:


No loss of life reported yet... hopefully it stays that way.


+1000
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1633. MTWX 1:29 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
More preperation starting in New England, plus more info on the evacuation orders in NC... Link
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1634. Grothar 1:29 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting bappit:

You are being sarcastic, right? Still got +6 for that remark.


Of course I was being sarcastic. I live on the 2nd island on the Intracoastal in Fort Lauderdale 1/2 from the ocean. I have been concerned since it was a wave. I guess some of the new ones don't me well. LOL
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1635. charlottefl 1:29 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
She's expanded quite a bit:

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1637. jdb777 1:29 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
I love all of the absurdity in this Blog, it has entertained me immensely watching the storms this year. Of course when a Major Hurricane looks to ride the E. Coast, the humor and absurdity increased with the strength of the storm.

The media is going overboard right now so that people will watch, but also so people will pay attention to the fact that Irene is no joke. That is a good thing, anyone who lives on the E. Coast from SC to ME should have evacuation bags packed and plans made. That is all that anyone can do. We will know by tomorrow night which steering pattern will dominate Irene and thus where she will head. Until then, continue with the absurdity so that the long time lurkers can enjoy.
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1638. SWFLIrish 1:29 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting Torgen:


Grothar still hasn't figured out how to use "smiley faces" when he's joking. We're all hoping that they will cover these new-fangled internet message boards on the Golden Girls one day so he will pick it up. ;)


Thanks for the laugh - my nana LOVED that show...
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1639. Stormchaser2007 1:29 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
WOW

SENIOR DUTY METEOROLOGIST NWS ADMINISTRATIVE MESSAGE
NWS NCEP CENTRAL OPERATIONS CAMP SPRINGS MD
2214Z WED AUG 24 2011


NWSHQ DIRECTIVE TO LAUNCH SIX-HOURLY RAOBS /SOUNDINGS/...

SDM IS HEREBY RELAYING A DIRECTIVE FROM NWSHQ FOR WFO/S
IN ALL OF EASTERN..SOUTHERN AND CENTRAL REGIONS PLUS
MONTANA IN WESTERN REGION TO LAUNCH SIX-HOURLY RAOBS
/SOUNDINGS/ BEGINNING AT THU 25 AUG 06Z AND UNTIL
FURTHER NOTICE.
THIS DIRECTIVE IS TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL
DATA INPUT WHICH SHOULD HELP WITH MODEL GUIDANCE IN
FORECASTING THE FUTURE TRACK AND IMPACTS OF HURRICANE
IRENE.

$$

STOUDT/SDM/NCO/NCEP
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1640. BDAwx 1:30 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting twincomanche:
When was the last time a cat 3 hit NYC? Never. The great hurricane of 1938 made 75 mph winds in NYC.


I see why you're saying that, but I feel you lost the point of my post behind my comment about new york. Let me highlight some key notes and qualifiers.

""Hurricane Irene is a serious threat to US security on a level never seen this far in advance from a hurricane. Therefore to be absolutely sure the hurricane will be a category 3 making landfall just to the west of Manhattan with a >15 foot storm surge (or whatever doom is being forecast today), the NHC is letting loose everything it can afford, and hopefully no huge threats come behind Irene for budget and financial reasons.

If after all possible data is collected and the models continue to spit out doomsday scenarios, then emergency personnel can no longer play games with the storm. and God forbid, if New York City needed to be evacuated, they would need as much lead time as possible.

And that goes for any coastal city along the US east coast, not just New York. The NHC knows that this is a real threat and so do the people in charge of emergency operations. All they need is to be as sure as possible so they can make the right calls.""

The New York scenario stemmed from what I was seeing from model tracks taking a storm with sub-940mb pressures into New Jersey. My post was in response to someone noting the reconnaissance observations up the entire east coast. I was basically saying that they were doing that, despite the costs, because of the nature of the threat being depicted by model runs. So they want to weed out the bad runs by getting more and better data.
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1641. Gorty 1:30 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting wolftribe2009:


I can contradict that the strongest winds are in the NE side of the storm for Irene. I do remember spotting a recon wind estimate in the North West part of the storm earlier today I think or last night but it read at around 95 MPH

Yes the strongest winds are always on the NE side most times but the wind can be strong on the west side too.


TS winds are currently 230 miles from center... I assume that is for all sides, but I could be wrong.
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1642. streamtracker 1:30 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Horse owners - Disaster Preparedness for Horses.pdf

My daughter has two horses and besides preparing for us humans, this has been on my mind also.
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1643. HadesGodWyvern 1:30 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Japan Meteorological Agency
Tropical Cyclone Advisory #11
TROPICAL STORM TALAS (T1112)
9:00 AM JST August 25 2011
============================

SUBJECT: Category One Typhoon In Sea Near Mariana Island

At 0:00 AM UTC, Tropical Storm Talas (998 hPa) located near 17.8N 141.4E has 10 minute sustained winds of 35 knots with gusts of 50 knots. The cyclone is reported as moving north northwest at 7 knots

Dvorak Intensity: T2.5

Gale Force Winds
=================
60 NM from the center

Forecast and Intensity
=======================

24 HRS: 20.1N 140.6E - 50 knots (CAT 2/Severe Tropical Storm)
48 HRS: 21.5N 140.5E - 60 knots (CAT 2/Severe Tropical Storm)
72 HRS: 23.2N 140.0E - 70 knots (CAT 3/Strong Typhoon)
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1644. Clearwater1 1:30 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting wolftribe2009:


I am with you 900MB, I don't think anyone understand how serious Irene is to the NE. I have been watching storms for years and I cant remember NOAA forecasting a CAT 2 to hit eastern long island. The last hurricane to hit as a CAT 2 was Hurricane Gloria in the 60's

That means a Major Hurricane like this bearing down on the NE is big news


The post he originally quoted really had nothing to do with whether or not the people of NYC took Irene serious or not. It was a racist remark/post and that poster should be banned.
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1645. STLweatherjunkie 1:31 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting streamtracker:
Questions about tornadoes spawned by a hurricane. Do they tend to be produced in any particular sector?


in the simplest of terms tornadoes form in response to low level wind shear (which is in abundance with a hurricane) and surface based instability. Surface based instability is generally pretty hard to come by due to the significant amount of clouds associated with hurricanes, which generally limits surface based heating. Generally the most likely part to find tornadoes associated with tropical systems is the outter bands, especially if they come on shore during afternoon hours.
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1646. JNCali 1:31 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    

Quoting FLdewey:


Hey... HEY!

Don't discredit the ants.


Shhhhhhhh! you might wake them   :b
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1647. reedzone 1:31 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Everyone needs to stop bickering about politics and racism.. We have HISTORY in the making and some of you are arguing about something else that is not important? Stop it! W have a potential catastrophic event on our hands, something very rare here. We need to focus and discuss Irene, not politics!

With that being said, I will release a brand new REED run after the 00Z come out, which have Hurricane Hunter data, which also should have the ULL info in it. I see the BAM runs bring Irene very close to Florida.
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1648. Torgen 1:31 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
Quoting RampagePCFL:


They are flying out of the AFB in Tampa.


Ah, that explains the heavy a/c over the house so much lately. Didn't realize they were still here, and they don't airlift to Iraq too much from here any more.
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1650. SPLbeater 1:31 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
The computer models arepointing 90L NNW, yet the last frame of satellite shows SW movement? am i seeing this right?

(90L extreme right of image)
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1651. FLweather 1:31 AM GMT en Agosto 25, 2011    
I am not sure if this is an ULL forming or if it just an illusion of the atmosphere. Can anyone explain? Could it have any effect?



Here is the link to the WV loop of the GOM:

Link
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