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Remnants of Emily could redevelop; Muifa batters Okinawa; Central U.S. roasts
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 4:54 PM GMT en Agosto 05, 2011 +24
Tropical Storm Emily degraded into an open tropical wave yesterday afternoon, after Hurricane Hunters could no longer locate a center of circulation at the surface. Through the morning yesterday, the storm appeared to lose most of its strong thunderstorm activity on the north side, and mid-level circulation was broad (tropical cyclones need a tight, coherent circulation to maintain themselves). Soon after the Hurricane Hunters took a pass through the storm, the National Hurricane Center demoted Emily from a tropical storm to a remnant low, while continuing to stress the rainfall threat to Hispaniola and eastern Cuba. Today it appears the center of the remnants are located just north of eastern Cuba in the southern Bahamas, although thunderstorm activity continues across eastern Cuba. Hispaniola probably saw rain and thunderstorms again early this morning, the strongest of which were on the eastern side of the island. New thunderstorm activity is starting to develop in the southeast Bahamas. Given Wednesday's rain gauge analysis from CPC, Hispaniola probably saw at least an additional 5 inches of rain yesterday.

Environmental conditions remain pretty much the same as yesterday, but are expected to become more favorable for Emily's remnants, and redevelopment of the storm is possible. Circulation from the low to mid-levels is still broad and tilting to the east with height due to the lingering moderate westerly wind shear. However, this shear is expected to dissipate some over the next 24 hours, and signs of this are already present to the west of the remnants. The dry air that has been following the storm since its inception has dissipated, as well.


Figure 1. Satellite imagery of the remnants of Tropical Storm Emily as they move northwest away from Cuba and Hispaniola and into the Bahamas.

Forecast for Emily's Remnants
Interestingly, the models have come into better agreement on the forecast for former Emily now that it has lost its surface circulation and degenerated into a tropical wave. The ECMWF, which has come out ahead in this forecasting game so far, is optimistic today that Emily will redevelop. Other global models—GFS, CMC, and FIM—also redevelop the storm. Consensus on timing of redevelopment seems to be when the wave reaches the northern Bahamas in 24 to 48 hours. At 12Z (8am EDT), the high-resolution HWRF model run forecasted a track that was furthest to the west of all the models, scraping eastern Florida as it travels northwest. The most probable track and intensity forecast that I see at this point is north-northwest movement over the next 24 to 36 hours, at which point the system will take a fairly sharp turn to the northeast and out to sea. Without an already established, coherent circulation, it appears unlikely that if Emily is reborn it will intensify into anything more than a moderate tropical storm. However, there is some potential as the system moves out to see that it could gain some strength and develop hurricane-force winds before it transitions into an extra-tropical cyclone.

Typhoon Muifa passes to the south of Okinawa, heads into East China Sea

The center of Typhoon Muifa passed to the south of Okinawa earlier this morning (Eastern time) and it continues to batter the islands with high winds and torrential rain. Local radar estimate rainfall rates as high as 80 mm/hour (approx. 3 inches/hour) in the strongest rain bands. Kadena Air Force Base near the city of Okinawa has been reporting sustained winds of 47 mph with gusts up to 72 mph. Muifa is expected to turn northwest today as it enters the East China Sea as a category 1 on the Saffir-Simpson scale, and then intensify into a category 2 as it passes close to eastern China. This morning, the forecast is that Muifa will probably not make landfall anywhere as a typhoon.


Figure 2. Radar imagery from the Japan Meteorological Agency around 1am JST. Scale is in millimeters. Highest rainfall rates appear to be approximately 3 inches/hour.

South-Central U.S. continues to bake

The extreme heat continues again today after 269 high maximum and 250 high minimum temperature records were set yesterday, 19 and 29 of which were all-time records, respectively. 206 of yesterday's records were 110°F or higher. Yesterday, Reuters was reporting that Texas was one power plant shutdown away from rolling blackouts. The forecast today doesn't look any better. Heat index values up to 125° are forecast in eastern Texas and the Lower Mississippi Valley.

Particularly toasty heat index values from yesterday:

• Mobile, Alabama: 120°
• Arkadelphia, Arkansas: 121°
• Bay St. Louis, Mississippi: 121°
• Memphis, Tennessee: 122°


Figure 3. Heat index forecast from the ECMWF for today. Scale is in degrees Fahrenheit. You can plot model forecasts using Wundermap by choosing the "Model Data" layer.

Angela
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151. bwi 6:01 PM GMT en Agosto 05, 2011    
Wouldn't this comment in the TWO imply that NHC thinks the "main" circulation is "between" the Bahamas and Cuba -- that is, the SWerly swirl folks are discussing, not the area NE of the Bahamas? Seems like that's the center of their oblong red "circle" too.

SURFACE OBSERVATIONS SHOW A BROAD AREA OF LOW PRESSURE LOCATED
BETWEEN CENTRAL CUBA AND THE BAHAMAS ASSOCIATED WITH THE REMNANTS
OF EMILY.
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153. wunderkidcayman 6:03 PM GMT en Agosto 05, 2011    
just to tell you I here in Grand Cayman is now getting SW winds
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154. whepton3 6:04 PM GMT en Agosto 05, 2011    
So are the HH gonna fly this today or what?
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156. gordydunnot 6:04 PM GMT en Agosto 05, 2011    
Well the NHC has a large Red circle which tells me they agree with most of the post here. Redevelopment is likely, more uncertain as to where. I notice through buoy observations that pressures around the Keys and S. Fl. are about 10mb lower than they are to the north and east of the remnants.
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158. stillwaiting 6:05 PM GMT en Agosto 05, 2011    
Quoting MississippiWx:


Besides, they are both embedded in a broad area of low pressure.
the nws has a low on the map just north of cuba,so isnt that atleast one tropical low?
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159. nrtiwlnvragn 6:06 PM GMT en Agosto 05, 2011    
Quoting whepton3:
So are the HH gonna fly this today or what?


Not Scheduled, so I would say no.
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160. whepton3 6:06 PM GMT en Agosto 05, 2011    
Quoting cat5hurricane:

What's there to fly into?


Looks to me a similar situation as when they were flying it to determine if it was closed a few days back.
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161. rod2635 6:07 PM GMT en Agosto 05, 2011    
Quoting Patrap:


And if you had just awakened from a 30 day sleep and this was the very first thing you saw, what would you say, tropically and objectively speaking.
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163. CitikatzSouthFL 6:07 PM GMT en Agosto 05, 2011    
Quoting tropicfreak:


I'm extremely confident that you're a troll. Welcome back JFV.

I alrady ignored him on the first post I saw from him. Can we get him banned again/still?
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164. DVG 6:07 PM GMT en Agosto 05, 2011    
Quoting ecflweatherfan:


Considering where it is now, if it becomes the dominant LLC, it will likely impact FL with more rain than currently progged. And increase the winds some. Do I think hurricane? Absolutely NOT. I am thinking 40-50mph tops (and I may be overshooting that). Once it gets good solid deep convection, it will begin to feel the trough a bit and pull towards the NW, then N.


I believe the cmc had this scenerio as it is developing a while back. Kinda fizzling then cruising up the Fl west coast.
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165. stillwaiting 6:07 PM GMT en Agosto 05, 2011    
stillwaiting to emily's reminants:"come to papa",lol
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166. nrtiwlnvragn 6:07 PM GMT en Agosto 05, 2011    
Dropsonde

Splash Location: 23.33N 75.43W
Splash Time: 17:24Z


1014mb (Surface) 155° (from the SSE) 30 knots (35 mph)
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167. ILwthrfan 6:08 PM GMT en Agosto 05, 2011    
I'd say we are about to see a stall/slow down agian with all that convection on it's east side in an attempt to consolidate her circulation. She's done this time after time throughout her entire life. Next 6 hrs will tell a lot.
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168. Guysgal 6:08 PM GMT en Agosto 05, 2011    
Happily a slow steady rain is giving us a respite from the heat today in Memphis! I feel personally responsible as I broke down and watered everything this am and left my car windows open.
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170. MississippiWx 6:10 PM GMT en Agosto 05, 2011    
I may have spoke too soon. 12z GFS seems to agree with you guys. :-D However, it has dropped redevelopment of the system:

12hrs:
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171. WxLogic 6:10 PM GMT en Agosto 05, 2011    
During the past 3 to 6 hours the low level VORT split off and now we have a piece of energy moving WNW/NW and one N.

3 HRs ago:



Now:

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172. Vero1 6:10 PM GMT en Agosto 05, 2011    
TROPICAL WEATHER DISCUSSION
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
205 PM EDT FRI AUG 05 2011

...SPECIAL FEATURE...

A 1011 MB LOW PRESSURE CENTER IS NEAR 22N76W JUST OFF THE COAST
OF CUBA ON THE BAHAMAS SIDE. THIS LOW PRESSURE CENTER IS THE
REMNANT OF EMILY.
A SURFACE TROUGH EXTENDS FROM THE LOW CENTER
ACROSS CUBA TO CAYMAN BRAC AND LITTLE CAYMAN...AND THEN TO
15N81W IN THE WESTERN CARIBBEAN SEA. STRONG RAINSHOWERS AND
THUNDERSTORMS ARE WITHIN A 30 NM RADIUS OF 24N71W...IN THE
BAHAMAS FROM 21N TO 23N BETWEEN 74W AND 76W...AND OFF THE COAST
OF SOUTHEASTERN CUBA BETWEEN CUBA AND JAMAICA FROM 19N TO 20N
ALONG 76W. UPPER-LEVEL WINDS MAY BECOME A LITTLE MORE CONDUCIVE
FOR SOME DEVELOPMENT ON SATURDAY. IT IS POSSIBLE THAT THIS
SYSTEM MAY REGENERATE INTO A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT
48 HOURS AS IT MOVES TOWARD THE NORTHWEST AND NORTH 15 MPH.

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173. cwf1069 6:11 PM GMT en Agosto 05, 2011    
And again ex-Emily w/ two different center of circulation. Which one will be eject. Looks like the north one.
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174. WxLogic 6:11 PM GMT en Agosto 05, 2011    
Quoting nrtiwlnvragn:
Dropsonde

Splash Location: 23.33N 75.43W
Splash Time: 17:24Z


1014mb (Surface) 155° (from the SSE) 30 knots (35 mph)


Is the G-IV doing a run now?
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176. tropicfreak 6:13 PM GMT en Agosto 05, 2011    
Quoting cwf1069:
And again ex-Emily w/ two different center of circulation. Which one will be eject. Looks like the north one.


The western one near Cuba seems most dominant.
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177. ecflweatherfan 6:13 PM GMT en Agosto 05, 2011    
Quoting nrtiwlnvragn:
Dropsonde

Splash Location: 23.33N 75.43W
Splash Time: 17:24Z


1014mb (Surface) 155° (from the SSE) 30 knots (35 mph)


Definitely interesting... I also know, based on satellite imagery, there are thunderstorms in that vicinity.
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179. nrtiwlnvragn 6:14 PM GMT en Agosto 05, 2011    
Observation Time: Friday, 17:45Z
Radar Capability: Yes
Aircraft Altitude: Below 10,000 meters
Coordinates: 22.8N 74.1W (View map)
Location: 211 miles (340 km) to the WNW (296°) from Cockburn Town, Turks and Caicos Islands (GBR).
Turbulence: Light
Conditions Along Flight Route: In the clear
Pressure Altitude: 8,530 meters
Flight Level Wind: From 80° at 14 knots (From the E at ~ 16.1 mph)
- The above is a spot wind.
- Winds were obtained using doppler radar or inertial systems.
Flight Level Temperature: -25°C
Flight Level Dew Point: Not available, probably because the dew point hygrometer was not working.
Weather (within 30 nautical miles): Shower(s) (continuous or intermittent precipitation - from cumuliform clouds)
D-value: 52 geopotential meters

Optional Data...

Bearing of Echo Center: 90° (Towards the E)
Distance to Echo Center: 30 nautical miles
Orientation of Ellipse: SSE - NNW
Echo Width or Diameter: 10 nautical miles
Length of Major Axis: 30 nautical miles
Character of Echo: Scattered Area
Intensity of Echo: Weak


Another new one to me, does the Optional Data describe a radar signature?


What I have been posting is the Hurricane Hunters going from St. Croix to home (I think). They send Routine Obs (such as the one above) and they have released a few dropsondes.
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180. whepton3 6:14 PM GMT en Agosto 05, 2011    
Quoting tropicfreak:


The western one near Cuba seems most dominant.


I'm on board with that.
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181. gordydunnot 6:14 PM GMT en Agosto 05, 2011    
Wasn't referring to a particular storm but have noticed over the last several years storms that give everyone the biggest headache in Fl. and the rest of the Gulf are these pesky systems that form around the Bahamas. I believe some people had predicted that troubling storms may form closer to the US than before.
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182. MississippiWx 6:16 PM GMT en Agosto 05, 2011    
Trying to determine a dominant center of circulation at this point is probably useless anyway as there is a broad area of turning. It may be that there is more of a compromise between the two eventually.
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183. whepton3 6:17 PM GMT en Agosto 05, 2011    
Looks like they'll fly it tomorrow... and then go back to the 6hr. fixes if it develops.
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184. tropicfreak 6:17 PM GMT en Agosto 05, 2011    
Quoting MississippiWx:
Trying to determine a dominant center of circulation at this point is probably useless anyway as there is a broad area of turning. It may be that there is more of a compromise between the two eventually.


Could they form 2 tropical systems.
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185. SPLbeater 6:18 PM GMT en Agosto 05, 2011    
Still a small portion of dry air around, dont expect it to stay long though.
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186. WxLogic 6:19 PM GMT en Agosto 05, 2011    
I see... a non-tasked Mission. Since it's close to the US why not ehh.
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187. islander101010 6:19 PM GMT en Agosto 05, 2011    
hurricane eugenes waves are showing at the us open of surfing so. calif
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188. ecflweatherfan 6:20 PM GMT en Agosto 05, 2011    
Quoting tropicfreak:


The western one near Cuba seems most dominant.


Yeah, and as you can see it is beginning to pull convection from the east and from Cuba as well. Could get interesting here in the next 12 hours or so
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190. HurricaneHunterJoe 6:21 PM GMT en Agosto 05, 2011    
It's all so very interesting,with these circulations floating around. I pick the one that is headed towards my predicted landfall of Emily in SW Florida.
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191. Jedkins01 6:21 PM GMT en Agosto 05, 2011    
The dominant low is clearly on the north coast of Central Cuba, surface obs and satellite support this. Any other spins are just meso-lows, Such as the one in the Bahamas, which no longer has any spin with it on the most recent satellite images. Convection is beginning to build a bit on the east side of vort MAX. But remember, the remnant low has shear over it, and its very shallow. Soundings and satellite indicate high tropical moisture with the remnant low, but most of it is shallow, dry air aloft exists above the high moisture. So this remnant low has a lot going against it to redevelop, it still could, but it seems still like it would take some time.

Now, as far as movement goes, current movement is WNW which would put it in the direction of the keys/southeastern gulf.

Computer models and forecasters are still calling for it to turn north, so with so much agreement for it do so, it wouldn't be wise to say it won't. However at the same time, we shouldn't pretend it is turning north towards the northern Bahamas till it actually does so.

My advice is to keep a close watch on this little fella if you live in Central and South Florida. Not because its a threat, but it will determine if above average or below average rain fall coverage will come in the next few days.

The fact is, if the remnant low continues WNW, it will wrap high moisture over Florida, leading to numerous showers and thunderstorms especially with daytime heating towards the western side of the State. But if it does turn north like it is being forecast to. Below normal coverage will temporarily be in place with a light northerly flow.

We shall see.
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192. reedzone 6:21 PM GMT en Agosto 05, 2011    
I knew it wouldn't go straight Northwest. Expect the remnants to head closer to Florida before the recurve.
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193. MississippiWx 6:22 PM GMT en Agosto 05, 2011    
Quoting tropicfreak:


Could they form 2 tropical systems.


No, both areas of vort are associated with the same trof of low pressure. A dominant area will eventually take over if Emily is to regenerate.
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194. sailfish01 6:23 PM GMT en Agosto 05, 2011    
Quoting ecflweatherfan:


Yeah, and as you can see it is beginning to pull convection from the east and from Cuba as well. Could get interesting here in the next 12 hours or so


I agree - this looks like the BAMD model. This LLC is moving WNW toward Fl Keys/S FL. With anticipated hard left turn it could stay over FL for a while and be a major rain maker. One only hopes.
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195. nrtiwlnvragn 6:23 PM GMT en Agosto 05, 2011    
AL 05 2011080518 BEST 0 229N 771W 30 1011 WV



AL 05 2011080518 BEST 0 230N 780W 30 1011 WV
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196. 7544 6:24 PM GMT en Agosto 05, 2011    
are we tracking the llc sw of andros tia
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197. HurricaneHunterJoe 6:25 PM GMT en Agosto 05, 2011    
Quoting DSIjeff:
79W, 23N .. ROUGHLY.

That is the spin somewhat apparent to me. I notice low clouds just off shore Cuba headed east into the south side of the circulation, or what may be the circulation. And some t-storms on the ne side.

Link
very interesting
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198. Patrap 6:25 PM GMT en Agosto 05, 2011    
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199. HurricaneHunterJoe 6:26 PM GMT en Agosto 05, 2011    
Quoting gordydunnot:
Well the NHC has a large Red circle which tells me they agree with most of the post here. Redevelopment is likely, more uncertain as to where. I notice through buoy observations that pressures around the Keys and S. Fl. are about 10mb lower than they are to the north and east of the remnants.
hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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200. whepton3 6:26 PM GMT en Agosto 05, 2011    
Quoting 7544:
are we tracking the llc sw of andros tia


That's the one.
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201. tatoprweather 6:26 PM GMT en Agosto 05, 2011    


What's next?
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