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Invest 91L reorganizing; The heat is on (again)
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 4:16 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011 +21
Invest 91L, which is located near 14°N, 57°W, is showing signs of reorganization after a pretty rough weekend. On Saturday, the wave looked ripe to develop with organized convection and the hint of a surface circulation. On Sunday a Hurricane Hunter and NOAA G9 flew into the system only to find it disorganized and negatively influenced by the burst of convection that sprouted on its western edge. Since then, low-level circulation has at least strengthened, if not consolidated, and residents of the Lesser Antilles should be prepared for tropical storm advisories to be posted on short notice. Satellite loops show decent thunderstorm activity and some mid-level circulation, and continued bursts of thunderstorms to the southwest of the invest region. The wave is surrounded by moderately strong wind shear (30-40 knots) on both the north and the south sides, which could delay development. Also, a large mass of dry, Saharan air continues to linger to 91L's north. In a mission this morning, Hurricane Hunters found winds close to tropical storm strength, but no signs of a closed surface circulation—just plenty of winds from the east or southeast. The next mission is scheduled for 2pm EDT, and they will continue every six hours if the system remains a threat.


Figure 1. Visible satellite of Invest 91L at 10:30am EDT as it moves west toward the Lesser Antilles.

Forecast For 91L
Development will probably occur in the next day or two, and the National Hurricane Center is giving the wave a 90% chance in the next 48 hours. The question now is where will it go, and how long will it remain a tropical cyclone. Models are split today, although still leaning toward an Atlantic recurving solution. In the camp of a Gulf of Mexico track are the CMC and the UKMET models. The GFS and the ECMWF are still in favor of the system tracking northwest toward Florida (and coming close) before taking a turn to the northeast. The NOGAPS model is resolving a Florida landfall in this morning's run, and the HWRF hints that it might like that solution, as well, at the end of its run. The GFDL remains conservative and forecasts that the system will turn north and northeast well before making any connection with the U.S. coast. It is notable that although there is still much disagreement on where this system will go, the models have been trending west in their tracks over the past few days. However, it is extremely difficult to nail down a track before a cyclone has even developed. Something we know for sure is that 91L is a threat to the Lesser Antilles and the Caribbean islands including Puerto Rico, Hispaniola, and the Bahamas.

In terms of intensity, both the GFDL and the HWRF are thinking this will eventually get to hurricane strength once it develops, although neither are forecasting it to become stronger than a category 1. SHIPS (which tracks 91L into the far eastern Gulf of Mexico) brings the system up to a category 1 hurricane, and the LGEM does as well, but is slower in its intensification. General consensus this morning is that 91L will max out somewhere between a moderate tropical cyclone and a moderate category 1 hurricane. Again, this is something that is difficult to predict before development itself occurs.

The Heat Is On (Again)

Someone turned the furnace on again in the central U.S., although many would argue that it was never actually turned off after the last heat wave. Heat advisories have been issued from southern Louisiana to North Dakota. Temperatures are expected to climb to 115°F in the central Plains through Wednesday, and heat index values will soar again. Oklahoma has now seen over a month of high temperatures hitting at least 100°. Some reprieve could come later this week.


Figure 2. Weather advisories issued by the National Weather Service. Heat-related advisories are pink.

Angela
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2251. HurricaneSwirl 11:21 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
Quoting CanesfanatUT:


What program is that you are using?


This

Click on "Air Force High Density (HDOB) Message (URNT15)"
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2252. ecflweatherfan 11:21 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
Perhaps a David 1979 path, though with much less intensity... seems plausible and somewhat inline with model consensus so far.
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2253. NOVArules 11:22 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
Quoting weatherjr:
People!!! it is just a COUPLE of Thunderstorms!!!!


Maybe to you, but to the people in Haiti, it's a disaster waiting to happen.
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2254. bajelayman2 11:22 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
A lot of rain this afternoon since noon in Barbados. I expect that the islands to our North have got much more.

Quite a bit of a lightshow lightning early this am too, around 3:00am, woke me up.
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2255. Mixed 11:22 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
Im on the west side of stlucia, getting some god winds from the west. loads of rain too....
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2256. FLHurricaneHunter 11:22 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
This is true....

Quoting HurricaneSwirl:


That one isn't TWC's fault though. The only people calling this thing Emily is us and ATCF. Not even the NHC is calling it Emily yet. Once the NHC issues its first advisory, then every other weather website and media website will call it Emily.
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2257. Patrap 11:22 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
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2258. washingtonian115 11:22 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
Quoting hunkerdown:
duh
No! it's winner winning Duh!!!
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2259. Tazmanian 11:22 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
Quoting wpb:
navy site just updated

91l to storm 05



your a little late
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2260. charlottefl 11:22 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
I give it a width from 150 miles west of the west coast of FL to 250 miles east of the east coast. I don't see it going any further east or west than that, just based on the forecast strength of the ridge, and ensuing trough. I think the further West it travels now may impact the steepness of the re-curve, but not majorly affect the long term track.

EDIT: Although a more westerly track (could) make a big difference with respect to the island of Hispanola, more precisely what portion of that island the center of the storm will impact.
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2261. TampaFLUSA 11:22 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
Why was I flagged? For saying Haiti is deforrested? Sheesh
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2262. FLWeatherFreak91 11:22 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
Quoting wpb:
still no defind west wind in recon data just past area and a breif wsw wind plus there has been no vortex message.

guess will have the 8pm two for the next update.
You must not have been following recon earlier when they reported numerous westerly winds over 10 knots.
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2263. tropicfreak 11:22 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
Quoting weatherjr:
People!!! it is just a COUPLE of Thunderstorms!!!!


Explain to me why they found 40-50 mph winds.
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2265. washingtonian115 11:23 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
Quoting tropicfreak:


Explain to me why they found 40-50 mph winds.
Just don't responed...It's better if you leave him talking to himself.
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2266. bajelayman2 11:24 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
From the water we had and continue to, we are not even in the thiok of it, this is serious enough to cause strong flooding in some islands.
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2267. OminousCloud 11:24 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
hello everyone.... how low of a pressure reading does an invest need to be classified a depression? a TS? A Hurricane?
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2268. TideWaterWeather 11:25 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
Extrap. Sfc. Press: 1006.4 mb (~ 29.72 inHg)
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2269. Stormchaser2007 11:25 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
Quoting P451:
So it happened.

invest_RENUMBER_al912011_al052011.ren 01-Aug-2011 22:19 3.2K





Been busy watching the storms roll through my area:




Haven't seen development like that in a long time. Especially this area.


Numerous cloud to ground lighting strikes. 3 within 500 feet. About a dozen within a quarter mile. 100s others nearby.



Lots of hail. Pea to Marble sized.

YouTube Video of Hail


Friend of mine sent me this on facebook

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2270. druseljic 11:25 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
Quoting Neapolitan:

Off-topic, yes. But just this one, and it's worth a possible ban, I suppose:
Giffords


Does anyone have a link to the video?
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2271. CajunTexan 11:25 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
Quoting weathermancer:


no




Fantastic. Back to lurking :-)
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2272. CybrTeddy 11:25 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
Emily is displaying the deepest convection we've seen yet.
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2273. MiamiHurricanes09 11:26 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
Quoting OminousCloud:
hello everyone.... how low of a pressure reading does an invest need to be classified a depression? a TS? A Hurricane?
Not necessarily dependent on how low the pressure of the surface circulation is, but rather if it is closed or not...but that's only for an invest trying to become a tropical cyclone.

The winds that the reconnaissance aircraft are the catalyst for whether the system is a tropical depression/tropical storm, should they find a closed circulation.
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2274. weatherxtreme 11:26 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
Just logged in for the day, What is 91L up to now? What are the latest and greatest models out there?
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2275. HCW 11:26 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
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2276. charlottefl 11:27 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
Quoting OminousCloud:
hello everyone.... how low of a pressure reading does an invest need to be classified a depression? a TS? A Hurricane?




Those are not exact pressures tho. It depends on the environment around the storm.
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2277. HurricaneDean07 11:27 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
invest_RENUMBER_al912011_al052011.ren
Awesome!
So special update for Emily soon...
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2278. drj10526 11:27 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
Quoting DestinJeff:
The Blog has reached Ludicrous Speed... The Chart is only rated to Warp Speed, and thus will not be posted.

Emily first track from NHC.... they will by the recurve from GFS I think.


Do you mean it won't be posted then or now? Because if you meant now then you just missed it.
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2280. Patrap 11:27 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
Quoting weatherxtreme:
Just logged in for the day, What is 91L up to now? What are the latest and greatest models out there?


Feel free to read bac,,this aint a drive up window.

: )
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2281. whepton3 11:27 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
Quoting Neapolitan:

Off-topic, yes. But just this one, and it's worth a possible ban, I suppose:
Giffords


Well done... stopped watching the blog to watch her out there. worthy of a post...

thanks.
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2282. plywoodstatenative 11:27 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
Quoting ecflweatherfan:
Perhaps a David 1979 path, though with much less intensity... seems plausible and somewhat inline with model consensus so far.


It would seem that anyone that is not from South Florida would be talking about a system making landfall.
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2283. Stormchaser2007 11:27 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
Quoting weatherxtreme:
Just logged in for the day, What is 91L up to now? What are the latest and greatest models out there?


Its Emily now.

Consensus is towards the EC of Florida for the time being.
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2284. weathermancer 11:27 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
Quoting CajunTexan:




Fantastic. Back to lurking :-)


:)
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2285. scott39 11:27 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
Quoting Neapolitan:

Off-topic, yes. But just this one, and it's worth a possible ban, I suppose:
Giffords
Outstanding!!
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2286. CybrTeddy 11:27 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
Quoting weatherxtreme:
Just logged in for the day, What is 91L up to now? What are the latest and greatest models out there?


Its Emily now. TVCN has it pointing towards Florida.
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2287. Dennis8 11:28 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
BARBADOS W SW WINDS....SURFACE!

2:00 PM 84.2 °F 96.1 °F 78.8 °F 84% 29.80 in 3.7 mi SSW 12.7 mph - N/A Rain Light Rain Showers
3:00 PM 82.4 °F 90.9 °F 77.0 °F 84% 29.80 in 3.7 mi SW 8.1 mph - N/A Rain Light Rain
4:00 PM 82.4 °F 90.9 °F 77.0 °F 84% 29.77 in 5.0 mi West 10.4 mph - N/A Rain Light Rain Showers
4:11 PM 78.8 °F - 77.0 °F 94% 29.77 in 1.2 mi WSW 12.7 mph - N/A Rain Rain Showers
5:00 PM 80.6 °F 86.2 °F 75.2 °F 84% 29.77 in 1.2 mi WSW 17.3 mph - N/A Rain , Thunderstorm Thunderstorms and Rain
6:00 PM 77.0 °F - 75.2 °F 94% 29.80 in 3.1 mi South 13.8 mph - N/A Rain , Thunderstorm Light Thunderstorms and Rain
7:00 PM 78.8 °F - 77.0 °F 94% 29.80 in 3.1 mi SSW 6.9 mph -
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2288. TORMENTOSO83 11:28 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
I see the center a little north
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2289. ecflweatherfan 11:29 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
Check out the banding on this thing... wow! Really getting her act together.

Link
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2290. weatherxtreme 11:29 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
Quoting Patrap:


Feel free to read bac,,this aint a drive up window.

: )


LOL!
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2291. HurricaneSwirl 11:29 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
Quoting CybrTeddy:
Emily is displaying the deepest convection we've seen yet.


At DMIN too. Nice.
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2292. drs2008 11:29 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
Quoting angiest:


That's funny. Some people say it always moves east.
I remember when they kept adjusting the Katrina tract west.
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2293. drj10526 11:30 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
p451, not to be off topic but why has that type of development been missing up around us? Feels like thunderstorms are few and far between the last couple years.
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2294. weathermancer 11:30 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
Quoting Stormchaser2007:


Friend of mine sent me this on facebook



beautiful !
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2295. Patrap 11:30 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
18z Early Cycle NHC model tracks
Invest91
Statistical/Simple Models (CLIPER,BAMs,LBAR,other Statistical Models)





Dynamic Models (More sophisticated models)





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2296. Chucktown 11:30 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
Info from NHC coming in now.
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2297. quakeman55 11:31 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
Hmm, Navy site has 05L.FIVE. So are they classifying it as TD 5 or TS Emily? I'd think Emily for sure...
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2298. OminousCloud 11:31 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
Not necessarily dependent on how low the pressure of the surface circulation is, but rather if it is closed or not.
thank u.
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2299. SomeRandomTexan 11:31 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
Sloppy looking lil critter isn't it
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2300. Stormchaser2007 11:31 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
...NEW TROPICAL STORM FORMS...TROPICAL STORM WATCHES AND WARNINGS ISSUED...

000
WTNT35 KNHC 012330
TCPAT5

BULLETIN
TROPICAL STORM EMILY SPECIAL ADVISORY NUMBER 1
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL052011
730 PM AST MON AUG 01 2011

...NEW TROPICAL STORM FORMS...TROPICAL STORM WATCHES AND WARNINGS
ISSUED...


SUMMARY OF 730 PM AST...2330 UTC...INFORMATION
----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...15.2N 62.0W
ABOUT 50 MI...80 KM WSW OF DOMINICA
ABOUT 350 MI...565 KM SE OF SAN JUAN PUERTO RICO
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...40 MPH...65 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...W OR 275 DEGREES AT 17 MPH...28 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...1006 MB...29.71 INCHES
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2301. quakeman55 11:31 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
Whoops, scratch that.

EMILY IS HERE!!!

Bout damn time. haha
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