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Invest 91L reorganizing; The heat is on (again)
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 4:16 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011 +21
Invest 91L, which is located near 14°N, 57°W, is showing signs of reorganization after a pretty rough weekend. On Saturday, the wave looked ripe to develop with organized convection and the hint of a surface circulation. On Sunday a Hurricane Hunter and NOAA G9 flew into the system only to find it disorganized and negatively influenced by the burst of convection that sprouted on its western edge. Since then, low-level circulation has at least strengthened, if not consolidated, and residents of the Lesser Antilles should be prepared for tropical storm advisories to be posted on short notice. Satellite loops show decent thunderstorm activity and some mid-level circulation, and continued bursts of thunderstorms to the southwest of the invest region. The wave is surrounded by moderately strong wind shear (30-40 knots) on both the north and the south sides, which could delay development. Also, a large mass of dry, Saharan air continues to linger to 91L's north. In a mission this morning, Hurricane Hunters found winds close to tropical storm strength, but no signs of a closed surface circulation—just plenty of winds from the east or southeast. The next mission is scheduled for 2pm EDT, and they will continue every six hours if the system remains a threat.


Figure 1. Visible satellite of Invest 91L at 10:30am EDT as it moves west toward the Lesser Antilles.

Forecast For 91L
Development will probably occur in the next day or two, and the National Hurricane Center is giving the wave a 90% chance in the next 48 hours. The question now is where will it go, and how long will it remain a tropical cyclone. Models are split today, although still leaning toward an Atlantic recurving solution. In the camp of a Gulf of Mexico track are the CMC and the UKMET models. The GFS and the ECMWF are still in favor of the system tracking northwest toward Florida (and coming close) before taking a turn to the northeast. The NOGAPS model is resolving a Florida landfall in this morning's run, and the HWRF hints that it might like that solution, as well, at the end of its run. The GFDL remains conservative and forecasts that the system will turn north and northeast well before making any connection with the U.S. coast. It is notable that although there is still much disagreement on where this system will go, the models have been trending west in their tracks over the past few days. However, it is extremely difficult to nail down a track before a cyclone has even developed. Something we know for sure is that 91L is a threat to the Lesser Antilles and the Caribbean islands including Puerto Rico, Hispaniola, and the Bahamas.

In terms of intensity, both the GFDL and the HWRF are thinking this will eventually get to hurricane strength once it develops, although neither are forecasting it to become stronger than a category 1. SHIPS (which tracks 91L into the far eastern Gulf of Mexico) brings the system up to a category 1 hurricane, and the LGEM does as well, but is slower in its intensification. General consensus this morning is that 91L will max out somewhere between a moderate tropical cyclone and a moderate category 1 hurricane. Again, this is something that is difficult to predict before development itself occurs.

The Heat Is On (Again)

Someone turned the furnace on again in the central U.S., although many would argue that it was never actually turned off after the last heat wave. Heat advisories have been issued from southern Louisiana to North Dakota. Temperatures are expected to climb to 115°F in the central Plains through Wednesday, and heat index values will soar again. Oklahoma has now seen over a month of high temperatures hitting at least 100°. Some reprieve could come later this week.


Figure 2. Weather advisories issued by the National Weather Service. Heat-related advisories are pink.

Angela
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2101. FSUstormnut 10:59 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
Quoting TxHurricanedude11:
2078:TS

why is it listed as five on the navy website and not actually named emily?
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2103. MrstormX 10:59 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
Storm/Depression who cares, whats important is that this has been fully initialized.
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2104. MiamiHurricanes09 10:59 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
Emily continues to improve on satellite. With a recon mission scheduled for tonight at 2a.m, looks like no sleep for me until at least 5a.m. Wooohooo!

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2105. TropicalAnalystwx13 10:59 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
Quoting AstroHurricane001:
The NRL have the storm as 05L.FIVE, no idea why. Will NHC issue an 8 PM EDT special advisory?

Anyone noticed the rapidly-developing system SW of the Gulf of Tehuantepec in eastern Mexico?


Yeah, I mentioned it earlier as a potential player.

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2106. sunlinepr 10:59 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
10N, 35W

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2107. stormwatcherCI 10:59 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
Quoting kmanislander:


See redesigantion of 91L to 05L here

TD
Afternoon Kman. Could you please answer post #2068. Congratulations on your son being called to the bar.
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2108. washingtonian115 10:59 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
Quoting 34chip:
Hey I live in Key West. I dont like that. lol
Sorry dude.Lol.
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2109. NOVArules 11:00 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
Quoting polarcane:
No she sticks out like a sore thumb


She is an oddball eh?
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2110. FLWeatherFreak91 11:00 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
Quoting FSUstormnut:

why is it listed as five on the navy website and not actually named emily?
Because the hurricane center gives the name
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2112. stormpetrol 11:00 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
Quoting CybrTeddy:
Knabbs posted this a few hours ago.
System near Leewards struggling this afternoon. Visible imagery reveals low-level trough axis about to move into the islands, and this afternoon's aircraft data confirms it. That feature's ahead of most of the thunderstorms and some mid-level spin to the east, where low-level flow is all southeasterly. Bottom line - formation of a depression not imminent - maybe within a day or two, but not this afternoon.

A tweet from Cantore earlier basically wrote it off completely!But even the experts can be wrong that's why many say "unpredictable as the weather, it can change on a dime"
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2113. EricSFL 11:00 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
Quoting FLWeatherFreak91:
Not much point in issuing warning at this point for the lesser antilles. It's right on top of them.


No, but probably for Puerto Rico and Hispaniola.
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2114. Stormchaser2007 11:00 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
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2115. wunderkidcayman 11:00 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
You should see a STWO at 6 and advisorys at 7
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2116. NOVArules 11:01 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    


Emily is in really hot water now
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2117. NICycloneChaser 11:01 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
Quoting Neapolitan:

Back in the pre-Andrew days, I used to get a kick out of watching Norcross on CBS wishcasting every swirl to come to Miami. (Don Noe on WPLG was always my goto met.) That came to an end on August 24, 1992, of course... :-\


I have a lot of respect for Norcross after watching news coverage of Andrew on landfall though, how he stayed in the studio while a hurricane was making landfall.
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2118. TropicalAnalystwx13 11:01 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
You can't have a TD with 40-45 mph winds, it doesn't work out that way.

Guess it doesn't really matter though
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2120. metwombly 11:02 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
My thoughts about Florida are not acceptable for this blog.
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2121. Tazmanian 11:02 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
am thinking a hurricane watch and TS wanring will go up
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2122. dmh1026 11:02 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
Quoting 34chip:
We have a TS Emily!!!!!

Where? NHC doesn't say so.....
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2123. CosmicEvents 11:02 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
Quoting angelafritz:
Yes, I define "limbo" as the time between when they update BTK and when the advisory comes out. Which could be as much as 3 hours. 3 hours of limbo!
Maybe with this cyclone the NHC wanted as much limbo time as possible before their first advisory. Are they going to have the upper air data from yesterday coming in with the next model run?
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2124. washingtonian115 11:02 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:


Yeah, I mentioned it earlier as a potential player.

I also noticed that their was a system to the southeast of Emily.look at the graphs.
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2125. cycleranger 11:02 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
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2126. bird72 11:03 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
Quoting cat5hurricane:

I like Lyons. At least used to when I watched years ago.


Dr. Steve Lyons the best.
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2127. TropicalAnalystwx13 11:03 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
Quoting metwombly:
Unless I am looking at the wrong feature, I believe you are referring to Hurricane Eugene.


No, that other area to the ENE of Eugene, near the Mexican coastline.

:)
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2128. FLWeatherFreak91 11:03 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
Quoting Tazmanian:
am thinking a hurricane watch and TS wanring will go up
You may be right, but I'm thinking the NHC doesn't have Emily becoming a hurricane until 4 days out.
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2129. hurricanehunter27 11:03 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
Quoting NICycloneChaser:


I have a lot of respect for Norcross after watching news coverage of Andrew on landfall though, how he stayed in the studio while a hurricane was making landfall.
Yah not like he is gona go outside when andrew was making lanfall lol. JK
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2130. mrsalagranny 11:03 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
My local news just said that we do indeed have tropical Storm Emily.Said the NHC just updated the info to them 15 minutes ago.
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2131. HarryMc 11:04 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
Quoting bird72:


Dr. Steve Lyons the best.


I haven't seen Weather Channel in a year or so now. I'll have to tune-in and catch up.
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2132. TropicalAnalystwx13 11:04 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
We should have advisories starting at the 8PM intermediate advisory.
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2133. IceCoast 11:04 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
Lol, so any one want to place bets on how many times the advisory is going to be posted on one page once they update? The line is 10, Over or Under?

I'll go with over.
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2134. CanesfanatUT 11:04 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
Quoting Chucktown:


NHC has to "write" the disco, get all the public advisories out, and of course come up with a 3-5 day track. Most likely, we will get the official upgrade at 8 PM. I still haven't seen anything our local NWS Chat, and they will get this info first.


I take it you are a met? Are you with NOAA?
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2135. ackee 11:05 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
cant wait to see which Island is under watch and warning
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2136. Chucktown 11:05 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
Quoting CanesfanatUT:


I take it you are a met? Are you with NOAA?


TV Met
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2138. kmanislander 11:05 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
Quoting stormwatcherCI:
Afternoon Kman. Could you please answer post #2068. Congratulations on your son being called to the bar.


Thanks re my son. The tighter and denser the lines ( Isobars) the stronger the steering would be. The high is not particularly strong to the North of the system at this time but what is interesting is that the Atlantic high has built to the West and has closed off the weakness that was apparent much earlier today.

That accounts for the track flattening out to the West. If you look at the last 12 hours of the 850 vorticity you will also see that it changed from being oriented from the NE to the SW to a current tilt from the NNW to the SSE. This further supports a move of the system more Westerly as the vorticity came "upright".

Hope this helps
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2139. Tazmanian 11:05 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
i cant wait too see the cone of DOOM
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2140. BahaHurican 11:05 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
Quoting SAINTHURRIFAN:
Not to go off topic but I thought my friend Pat and ike if hes lurking would appreciate this.Imagine if wunder blog was around in the first 2 weeks of august 1969.We would had 10000 posts like we have had now about a vigourous tropical wave that moved off Africa.well it stayed a invest as we call it now for 8 days strong wave potential high for development,well thier would have the 10 million people say its going to Florida,it looks horrible, it looks good, hey whats the models saying every 5 minutes.Well everyone got tired of this invest it will never develop.Guess what all the people that were disappointed it did not develop got a surprise.On August 14 it did finally develop it did not hit Florida, it did go into the the gulf.It turned out to be a long agonizing invest that made landfall with 190mph sustained winds.Small and compact and the ones aggravated that it did not develop are now sorry far they now have no nieghborhoods,conviences or family and friends that are no longer here.this long tracked vigorous tropical wave was a lady named Camille.Be careful what you wish for I know I can speak for Pat and I after the Camilles,fredricks, betsy's and Katrinas you teeny boppers will not like what you see.A invest called Camille.
Thanks 4 keeping it real, St.
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2141. HCW 11:05 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
Quoting bird72:


Dr. Steve Lyons the best.


Nope Dr John Hope was the best :)
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2143. MrstormX 11:05 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
Quoting ackee:
cant wait to see which Island is under watch and warning


Thats a little creepy isn't it :P

j/k you a local?
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2144. FLHurricaneHunter 11:06 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
The Weather Channel is still calling it 91L. Obviously they haven't received any update. Geesh
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2145. serialteg 11:06 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
Quoting FLWeatherFreak91:
Banding features beginning to emerge.


That also happened since two days ago+
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2146. washingtonian115 11:06 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
Quoting IceCoast:
Lol, so any one want to place bets on how many times the advisory is going to be posted on one page once they update? The line is 10, Over or Under?

I'll go with over.
20 times.Before someone finally says stop.
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2147. bswigg 11:06 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
TWC still has it as an invest...wonder why they do not try and be ahead of the curve...
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2148. washingtonian115 11:07 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
Quoting serialteg:


That also happened since two days ago+
IMO What would become Emily looked better yesterday.
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2149. ackee 11:07 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
Quoting MrstormX:


Thats a little creepy isn't it :P

j/k you a local?
it let people be more aware lot locals dont even know that we HAVE a TS
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2150. EricSFL 11:07 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
Quoting HCW:


Nope Dr John Hope was the best :)


Agree 100%.
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2151. FLWeatherFreak91 11:07 PM GMT en Agosto 01, 2011    
Quoting weatherjr:
Invest 91 is nothing more than a couple of thunderstorms. Here in PR we see that case frequently. Why the alarms? It is unnecessary. People from PR and the rest of the antilles DONT WORRY about this simple and Innocuos event!!! I ask again: why the NHC spends so much money for a couple of thunderstorms? PLEASE think about the DEBT DEFAULT in USA!!!!! SAVE MONEY TO YOUR PEOPLE!!!
These recon missions definitely cost a lot of money up front, but I believe (most of the time) they save a lot of property and lives from being destroyed.
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