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Tomas remains weak; St. Lucia hard-hit by the storm
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 2:04 PM GMT en Noviembre 01, 2010 +2
Hurricane Tomas dealt a punishing blow to the Caribbean island of St. Lucia on Saturday, with the neighboring islands of St. Vincent and Barbados also suffering heavy damage. St. Lucia received the full brunt of the northern eyewall of Tomas as it intensified, and the St. Lucia weather service reported that sustained winds of 90 - 95 mph affected the island. A state of emergency has been declared, and heavy flooding washed out many bridges and roads. Damage to structures is considerable, with many roofs gone, and damage reported to hospitals, schools, and businesses. The Minister of Communications for the island said yesterday that he had done an aerial assessment of the damage, and it was "worse that we could think of." The Caribbean Catastrophe Risk Insurance Facility estimated that they will pay out $8.5 million for Barbados, $3.2 million for Saint Lucia, and $1.1 million for St Vincent and the Grenadines.


Figure 1. Torrential rains from Tomas triggered massive flooding on St. Lucia that destroyed several bridges and severely damaged roads. Image credit: Caribbean Hurricane Network.

Tomas remains weak
Satellite loops of Tomas show the classic signature of a tropical storm experiencing high wind shear, with a low-level swirl of clouds and the heavy thunderstorm activity all pushed to the east side of the circulation by strong upper-level winds out of the southwest. A few flare-ups of thunderstorms have occurred near the center of Tomas this morning, a sign that the storm is not going to die anytime soon. Wind shear is a high 20 knots due to strong upper level southwest winds, and these winds are driving dry air at mid-levels of the atmosphere into Tomas' west side, as seen on water vapor satellite imagery.


Figure 2. Morning satellite image of Tropical Storm Tomas.

Track forecast for Tomas
The ridge of high pressure pushing Tomas to the west-northwest will weaken by Tuesday, as a trough of low pressure approaches the eastern U.S. and breaks down the ridge. This will result in Tomas slowing from its current 14 mph forward speed to 5 mph by Tuesday afternoon. By Thursday, the trough to Tomas' north should be able to pull the storm to the north or north-northeast. The exact timing and location of this turn is still uncertain, but the computer models have come into better agreement that Haiti or Jamaica are the most likely targets of Tomas. NHC is giving Port-au-Prince, Haiti, a 40% chance of receiving tropical storm force winds, and a 5% chance of hurricane force winds. These odds are slightly lower for Kingston, Jamaica--29% and 4%, respectively.

However, the latest 2am EDT (06Z) run of the NOGAPS model calls into question whether or not the trough will be strong enough to pull Tomas northward into Haiti. The NOGAPS is keeping Tomas trapped in the Caribbean for the next seven days. The latest runs of the GFS and ECMWF models are also showing that the trough will not be strong enough to pull Tomas fully out to sea, and these models stall the storm just north of Haiti. So, the long-term fate of Tomas is now looking murkier, and the storm may still be in the Caribbean a week from now.

Intensity forecast for Tomas
Wind shear is forecast to remain in the high range today, near 20 knots, then decline to the moderate range, 10 - 20 knots, Tuesday through Wednesday. The relaxation of shear should allow Tomas to re-organize Tuesday and Wednesday, though it is unlikely the storm could rebuild its inner core and form and eyewall until Thursday at the earliest. Hampering this process will be the presence of a considerable amount of dry air to Tomas' west. The upper-level winds out of the southwest creating the shear over Tomas will drive this dry air into the core of the storm, slowing intensification. The waters are very warm in the Caribbean and these waters extend to great depth, so a period of rapid intensification just before landfall in Jamaica or Haiti is possible, particularly if the shear drops to the low range, as predicted by the latest SHIPS model forecast. The current south of due west motion of Tomas is putting the storm farther south in the Caribbean than originally expected, which will give the storm more time over water and more time to intensify. The intensity Tomas might have at landfall is thus highly uncertain, and a strength anywhere between a tropical storm and Category 3 hurricane would not be surprising. The HWRF model predicts Tomas will be a strong tropical storm with 70 mph winds on Friday at landfall, while the GFDL foresees Tomas will be a strengthening Category 3 hurricane as it bears down on Haiti Saturday morning. The HWRF model has been under-forecasting intensity this season, and I predict Tomas will be a strengthening Category 1 hurricane on Friday as it makes landfall in Jamaica or Haiti.


Figure 3. Plot of all Category 1 and stronger hurricanes to pass within 50 miles of St. Lucia since reliable record keeping began in 1851. Image credit: NOAA Coastal Services Center.

St. Lucia's hurricane history
Tomas is the strongest hurricane to affect St. Lucia since Category 1 Hurricane Dean of 2007 brought 90 mph winds to the island. Dean killed one person and did $6.4 million in damage--0.5% of the nation's GDP. The island's strongest hurricane since accurate records began in 1851 was Hurricane Allen of 1980, which struck as a Category 3 hurricane with 130 mph winds. Allen killed 18 people on St.Lucia, and caused catastrophic damage of $235 million dollars ($613 million 2010 dollars.) This was 177% of the nation's GDP that year. The deadliest hurricane in St. Lucia history was the Category 5 Great Hurricane of 1780, which killed approximately 700 people. The Great Hurricane of 1780 was the Atlantic's deadliest hurricane of all-time, with 22,000 fatalities, mostly in the Lesser Antilles Islands.

Next update
I'll have an update Tuesday morning.

Jeff Masters
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1001. stormpetrol 1:04 PM GMT en Noviembre 02, 2010    
I think Tomas will pass between The Caymans and Jamaica as a strong Cat 3 Hurricane and go over Eastern Cuba, but that's just my personal take on the strength and track of Tomas!
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1002. Orcasystems 1:04 PM GMT en Noviembre 02, 2010    
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
its tuseday nov2 the beginning of redevelopement as he lifs up and out


Morning KOG, SM, Ice Cream ,and of course you to Grothar
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1003. Orcasystems 1:04 PM GMT en Noviembre 02, 2010    
Complete Update

HH found next to nothing (1003mb)

But "It" just won't die....



AOI
AOI AOI AOI

AOI AOI AOI

TSPN BUSTED FORECAST ALIBI
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1005. hydrus 1:07 PM GMT en Noviembre 02, 2010    
It almost looks like Tomas has a twin.
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1006. TropicalAnalystwx13 1:07 PM GMT en Noviembre 02, 2010    
Tomas is making a strong comeback...60 mph at 11 AM?

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1008. hydrus 1:08 PM GMT en Noviembre 02, 2010    
Quoting stormpetrol:
I think Tomas will pass between The Caymans and Jamaica as a strong Cat 3 Hurricane and go over Eastern Cuba, but that's just my personal take on the strength and track of Tomas!
The water is certainly warm enough..
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1009. stormpetrol 1:09 PM GMT en Noviembre 02, 2010    
Time: 08:02:30Z
Coordinates: 13.8667N 71.45W
Acft. Static Air Press: 922.3 mb (~ 27.24 inHg)
Acft. Geopotential Hgt: 756 meters (~ 2,480 feet)
Extrap. Sfc. Press: -
D-value: -
Flt. Lvl. Wind (30s): From 117° at 35 knots (From the ESE at ~ 40.2 mph)
Air Temp: 19.7°C* (~ 67.5°F*)
Dew Pt: -*
Peak (10s) Flt. Lvl. Wind: 35 knots (~ 40.2 mph)
SFMR Peak (10s) Sfc. Wind: 43 knots (~ 49.4 mph)
SFMR Rain Rate: 29 mm/hr (~ 1.14 in/hr)
(*) Denotes suspect data

50mph TS is reasonable.
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1010. augfan 1:09 PM GMT en Noviembre 02, 2010    
Quoting Skyepony:
Ya'll see Alan83's blog?


From Curacao!!!

Posted by: Alan83, 4:35 AM GMT on November 02, 2010
This has been the worst storm on the island of curacao!! How is it possible we didn't even get warnings?! The island is flooded!! It's been raining since 7pm and now it is 12:30am! Walls have collapsed...cars are trapped in the flood...houses are flooded!! this is definitely catastrophic for the island! First time in my 23yrs of living on this island this happens! does anyone have an update of how long the storm will last? thx

Curacao has its own radar and met servicehttp://www.meteo.an/About.asp
It also became a new autonomous nation 10/10/10. Perhaps everything is a little unconnected yet.
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1011. TropicalAnalystwx13 1:09 PM GMT en Noviembre 02, 2010    
Quoting stillwaiting:
isnt the" weakening. flag" on,how can some say hes strengthening,still looks like a td or minimal ts imo,tommy's CA bound...


That weakening flag is very faulty. It was ON when Alex was undergoing RI earlier this year.

Tomas is strengthening right now...and definitely not South America bound.
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1012. GeoffreyWPB 1:12 PM GMT en Noviembre 02, 2010    
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1013. pottery 1:18 PM GMT en Noviembre 02, 2010    
Good Morning all.
Sorry to read of the problems in Curacao.
Sad to look at the video from St. Lucia.
Worried about the possibilities that Tomas can still be a bastard, down the road as well.

so maybe I should have left out the 'good' in Morning?

Hot, Hazy, still day in store here.
Possible rain, which would be nice.
Total rainfall for October was 92mm.
12 year average is 183mm.
Been a dry one....
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1015. scott39 1:21 PM GMT en Noviembre 02, 2010    
Quoting scott39:
Goodmorning, The NHC must expect Tomas to slow its forward speed down dramatically during the next 48 hours. They have it at 75.8W this time on Thursday morning. That is less than 240 miles from where it is at right now. Do the math.
Does the NHC expect Tomas to slow down this much in the next 48 hours and stall for 24? I havent seen in the discussion, for Tomas to slow down that much before 75.8W.
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1016. raggpr 1:21 PM GMT en Noviembre 02, 2010    


That is a good good agreement!
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1017. pottery 1:22 PM GMT en Noviembre 02, 2010    
Quoting SuperTyphoonLionrock:

It's too early in the morning for that kind of rush....
LOL
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1018. TampaSpin 1:23 PM GMT en Noviembre 02, 2010    
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1019. Orcasystems 1:28 PM GMT en Noviembre 02, 2010    
Quoting pottery:
Good Morning all.
Sorry to read of the problems in Curacao.
Sad to look at the video from St. Lucia.
Worried about the possibilities that Tomas can still be a bastard, down the road as well.

so maybe I should have left out the 'good' in Morning?

Hot, Hazy, still day in store here.
Possible rain, which would be nice.
Total rainfall for October was 92mm.
12 year average is 183mm.
Been a dry one....


I had never even heard of Curacao before, what a beautiful looking place. I can understand why they had so much problems with the rain, not much in the way elevation.

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1020. scott39 1:28 PM GMT en Noviembre 02, 2010    
Quoting SuperTyphoonLionrock:
This went well with my Red Bull this morning.
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1021. scott39 1:30 PM GMT en Noviembre 02, 2010    
Quoting raggpr:


That is a good good agreement!
I say the NGFDL is the best track long term for Tomas.
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1022. hydrus 1:32 PM GMT en Noviembre 02, 2010    
NAM four days out..
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1023. GatorWX 1:33 PM GMT en Noviembre 02, 2010    
Quoting TampaSpin:


Lets hope this does not happen. A Stall over Haiti would be a disater for flooding.


Seems like most of the models are hinting at that scenario. Haiti is going to need all the prayers it can get I'm afraid. I think this storm could surprise a few people in intensity. Seems like that anticyclone rebuilt quite well a bit to its south and between it and the ridge over top, they're keeping the shear at baying and funneling moisture from the south and west. It really blew up since last night. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Tomas a cane by this time tomorrow. Outflow is again very evident at least on the west and north quads.
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1024. raggpr 1:34 PM GMT en Noviembre 02, 2010    
Quoting scott39:
I say the NGFDL is the best track long term for Tomas.


I dont think so, that model is always an outliner. He always trends toward the west. GFDL and GFS are the best for long range tracks.
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1025. GeoffreyWPB 1:36 PM GMT en Noviembre 02, 2010    
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1026. TampaSpin 1:38 PM GMT en Noviembre 02, 2010    
1027. Orcasystems 1:38 PM GMT en Noviembre 02, 2010    
Slowly but surely getting out of the Hurricane graveyard.

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1028. scott39 1:40 PM GMT en Noviembre 02, 2010    
I think the NHC will have to continue to shift to the W until Tomas slows down. Will someone please tell me what Im not seeing, with Tomas only being at 76W at this time on Thursday?
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1029. scott39 1:42 PM GMT en Noviembre 02, 2010    
Tomas looks to be going S of W again.
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1030. Orcasystems 1:44 PM GMT en Noviembre 02, 2010    
Quoting TampaSpin:
I tell you all what might just happen. It is looking like that many models are hinting at Tomas to move over Haiti, loop back over toward Purteo Rico ! Not sure that trough will clear it out?




JUST MIGHT LOOP BACK INTO THE CARIBBEAN on this one.


Gets completely cut off here. That would send Tomas back to the WEst after a horrible stall!



From the Dr's blog yesterday.

"The latest runs of the GFS and ECMWF models are also showing that the trough will not be strong enough to pull Tomas fully out to sea, and these models stall the storm just north of Haiti. So, the long-term fate of Tomas is now looking murkier, and the storm may still be in the Caribbean a week from now"
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1031. surfmom 1:45 PM GMT en Noviembre 02, 2010    
Quoting Orcasystems:
Slowly but surely getting out of the Hurricane graveyard.


humm - we know about those slow but sure types - heh, heh, heh
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1032. Orcasystems 1:46 PM GMT en Noviembre 02, 2010    
Quoting surfmom:

humm - we know about those slow but sure types - heh, heh, heh


Its sure taking its time... be nice if it just died.. but its like a mangy old cat... with 9 lives.
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1033. scott39 1:46 PM GMT en Noviembre 02, 2010    
Quoting raggpr:


I dont think so, that model is always an outliner. He always trends toward the west. GFDL and GFS are the best for long range tracks.
I know, but Tomas is really going to have to put the brakes on right now to make that soon of a turn, with what the other models are showing.
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1034. TampaSpin 1:47 PM GMT en Noviembre 02, 2010    
Quoting scott39:
I think the NHC will have to continue to shift to the W until Tomas slows down. Will someone please tell me what Im not seeing, with Tomas only being at 76W at this time on Thursday?


At its current forward speed of 11mph..that would put Tomas South of Jamica in 2 days.

NHC expects Tomas to slow down before the turn.
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1035. pottery 1:47 PM GMT en Noviembre 02, 2010    
Quoting surfmom:

humm - we know about those slow but sure types - heh, heh, heh

We do???
LOL Surfy, good to see you.
Out for the rest of the day............
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1036. GeoffreyWPB 1:48 PM GMT en Noviembre 02, 2010    
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1037. scott39 1:49 PM GMT en Noviembre 02, 2010    
Quoting TampaSpin:


At its current forward speed of 11mph..that would put Tomas South of Jamica in 2 days.

NHC expects Tomas to slow down before the turn.
Ok thanks, Its hard to understand sometimes, but the NHC are the experts.
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1039. islander101010 1:51 PM GMT en Noviembre 02, 2010    
how come gilbert intensified in the hurricane graveyd?
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1040. TampaSpin 1:53 PM GMT en Noviembre 02, 2010    
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1041. GatorWX 1:53 PM GMT en Noviembre 02, 2010    
Quoting scott39:
I think the NHC will have to continue to shift to the W until Tomas slows down. Will someone please tell me what Im not seeing, with Tomas only being at 76W at this time on Thursday?


It will slow down considerably once the trof begins to erode that ridge. Tomas will be moving at a snails pace thereafter until he begins to feel the influence of the trof. As Tampa has been pointing out, most of the models are beginning to suggest the trof will not be strong enough to completely lift Tomas out and he could perhaps stall over Haiti which would be a very bad scenario, god bless them.
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1043. scott39 1:54 PM GMT en Noviembre 02, 2010    
Quoting islander101010:
how come gilbert intensified in the hurricane graveyd?
Who Knows, But most TCs dont like the graveyard, and they die there.
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1044. hydrus 1:56 PM GMT en Noviembre 02, 2010    
Quoting islander101010:
how come gilbert intensified in the hurricane graveyd?
If they reach depression status before hitting the Antilles, there is a 70% chance of it being named when it enters the Eastern Caribbean Sea, and will continue to intensify if the environment is favorable.
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1045. islander101010 1:57 PM GMT en Noviembre 02, 2010    
if thomas stall just north of the greater antillias could be good for surfers in the northern bahamas and the mainland couple days worth
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1047. TampaSpin 2:00 PM GMT en Noviembre 02, 2010    
Gotta run out an do my duty to VOTE! Make sure you VOTE today. I would perfer to influence you one way to vote, but that is really not what today is about. Its about the freedom of Choice and the liberty and freedom to VOTE for public officals. GOD BLESS AMERICA
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1049. TampaSpin 2:04 PM GMT en Noviembre 02, 2010    
Quoting Orcasystems:


From the Dr's blog yesterday.

"The latest runs of the GFS and ECMWF models are also showing that the trough will not be strong enough to pull Tomas fully out to sea, and these models stall the storm just north of Haiti. So, the long-term fate of Tomas is now looking murkier, and the storm may still be in the Caribbean a week from now"


Been saying that for days that the trough might not pick it up and out. If the trough does not. It moves toward the WEst. High pressure will move it west as it builds back in.
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1051. scott39 2:06 PM GMT en Noviembre 02, 2010    
Quoting GatorWX:


It will slow down considerably once the trof begins to erode that ridge. Tomas will be moving at a snails pace thereafter until he begins to feel the influence of the trof. As Tampa has been pointing out, most of the models are beginning to suggest the trof will not be strong enough to completely lift Tomas out and he could perhaps stall over Haiti which would be a very bad scenario, god bless them.
Lets pray that doesnt happen for Haiti. I understand about the trof and the ridge. How many hours until it effects the ridge? The reason I ask is because Tomas is already between 72W and 72.5W.
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