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Igor turns west-northwest; Julia a hurricane; 92L growing more organized
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 1:49 PM GMT en Septiembre 14, 2010 +3
Hurricane Igor remains an impressive Category 4 hurricane with 135 mph winds over the Central Atlantic. Though Igor's winds are 15 mph weaker than at its 150 mph peak yesterday, the hurricane continues to maintain the classic appearance of a major hurricane on satellite imagery, with a well-formed eye, plenty of low-level spiral bands, and solid upper-level outflow to the north and south.


Figure 1. Hurricane Igor as seen by the MODIS instrument on NASA's Aqua satellite at 12:40 pm EDT Monday, September 13, 2010. Image credit: NASA.

Intensity forecast for Igor
Wind shear is low, 5 - 10 knots, and is expected to remain low for the next 3 - 4 days. Waters are warm, 28.7°C, and will warm to 29°C by Wednesday. Igor has moistened its environment enough to keep the dry air of the Saharan Air Layer (SAL) at bay. These conditions should allow Igor to remain at major hurricane status for the next 3 - 4 days. The hurricane will probably undergo one of the usual eyewall replacement cycles intense hurricanes commonly have, where the eyewall collapses and a new eyewall forms from an outer spiral band. This will weaken the hurricane by 10 - 20 mph when it occurs, and may be responsible for the 15 mph weakening Igor experienced since yesterday. Igor will probably regain its lost intensity when the cycle completes in the 12 - 36 hours. By Saturday, when Igor should be nearing Bermuda, the trough of low pressure steering Igor northwestwards should bring moderate wind shear of 10 - 20 knots to the storm, weakening it. Igor will also be tracking over cooler 28°C waters then.

Track forecast for Igor
The track forecast for Igor remains unchanged. Igor has made its long-anticipated turn to the west-northwest, in response to the steering influence of a broad trough of low pressure moving across the Western Atlantic. This trough will steer Igor several hundred miles to the northeast of the Lesser Antilles, and high waves should be the only impact of Igor on the islands. In the longer range, Igor appears likely to be a threat to Bermuda, and that island can expect tropical storm force winds as early as Friday. Igor does have a small chance of making landfall on the U.S. East Coast or Canada. Climatology shows that about 20% of all tropical cyclones that have existed at Igor's current position have gone on to hit the U.S. East Coast; these odds are about 5 - 10% for Bermuda and 15% for Canada. The forecast steering current pattern for the period 5 - 10 days from now from the ECMWF and GFS models shows several modest troughs of low pressure moving across the Western Atlantic. These troughs will probably be strong enough to recurve Igor out sea. However, 5 - 10 day forecasts are prone to large errors, and it is too early to be highly confident that Igor will miss hitting the U.S. or Canadian coasts.

Wave forecast for Igor
Large swells from Igor have arrived in the Northern Lesser Antilles Islands, and will spread westwards over the next few days, reaching the U.S. East Coast on Friday. By Saturday, much of the East Coast from northern Florida to Cape Cod Massachusetts can expect waves of 3 - 4 meters (10 - 13 feet), causing dangerous rip currents and significant beach erosion. These waves will continue through Sunday then gradually die down. The latest NOAA marine forecast for Cape Hatteras, North Carolina calls for 8 - 11 foot waves on Saturday.


Figure 3. Forecast wave heights for 2pm EDT Saturday September 18, 2010, as predicted by 00 UTC 9/14/2010 run of NOAA's Wavewatch III model.

Caribbean disturbance 92L
Tropical disturbance 92L over the Western Caribbean, between Jamaica and the Yucatan Peninsula, has become more organized this morning. The storm remains a threat to develop into a tropical depression, but time is running out for it to do so. There is no evidence of a surface circulation on satellite loops this morning, but the cloud pattern of 92L has become more circular, with low-level spiral bands developing on the west and north sides of the storm. 92L has a moderate but increasing area of intense thunderstorms; these are bringing heavy rains to Jamaica, the Cayman Islands, and western Cuba this morning.


Figure 3. Morning satellite image of 92L.

Forecast for 92L
Rains from 92L will spread over Belize, Northern Guatemala, and Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula tonight through Wednesday, bringing peak accumulations in the 4 - 8 inch range. Lesser peak amounts of 2 - 4 inches are possible over northern Honduras. Wind shear over 92L is low, 5 - 10 knots, and is expected to remain low for the next five days. The waters beneath are hot, 29.7°C, and these warm waters extend to great depth. Water vapor satellite loops show a large area of dry air lies to the north and west of 92L; this dry air has been interfering with development of 92L, and will continue to do so. NHC is putting the odds of 92L developing into a tropical depression by Thursday at 40%; I'll give it a 50% chance. Given the current disorganized state of 92L, it would be difficult for it to intensify quickly enough to become any stronger than a tropical storm with 50 mph winds by Wednesday afternoon, when it will move over Belize and Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula. Once 92L crosses the Yucatan, the ridge of high pressure steering it is expected to remain in place, forcing 92L west or west-southwest to a second landfall in Mexico between Veracruz and Poza Rica early Saturday morning. The shape of Mexico's Bay of Campeche and the topography of the mountains surrounding the Bay help air spiral in a counterclockwise fashion, aiding tropical storm development, and 92L has its best chance of development once it crosses into the Bay of Campeche. With the shear there expected to be low and the waters warm, I give a high 70% chance that 92L will be a tropical depression or tropical storm in the Bay of Campeche. The GFDL model is predicting 92L could be a hurricane at landfall near Veracruz on Saturday morning; the other intensity models are much less aggressive. Given the rapid development of Hermine in a similar location last week, residents of the Mexican Gulf Coast should be wary of the possibility that 92L could intensify into at least a strong tropical storm before making landfall Friday night or Saturday morning. A Hurricane Hunter aircraft is scheduled to investigate 92L this afternoon.

Julia
Hurricane Julia is headed northwest, out to sea, and it is unlikely that this storm will trouble any land areas. The intensification of Julia into a hurricane brings our activity tally for the 2010 Atlantic hurricane season to 10 named storms, 5 hurricanes, and 3 intense hurricanes. An average season has 10 named storms, 6 hurricanes, and 2 intense hurricanes, so we've already had a full season's worth of activity, with about 45% of the season still to come.

Shear will be low to moderate, 5 - 20 knots, over Julia during the next two days. Shear will rise sharply to 30 knots 3 - 5 days from now, as Julia moves within 1000 miles of Igor and begins to experience strong northwesterly winds from her big brother's upper level outflow. Julia does have a window of opportunity today and Wednesday to intensify into a Category 2 hurricane before the shear rises.

Elsewhere in the tropics
The GFS and ECMWF models are suggesting the possibility of a new tropical depression forming a few hundred miles off the coast of Africa about seven days from now.

"Hurricane Haven" airing this afternoon
Tune in to my live Internet radio show, "Hurricane Haven", airing at 4pm EDT today. If you want to ask a question, the call in number is 415-983-2634, or you can email a question to broadcast@wunderground.com. Be sure to include "Hurricane Haven question" in the subject line.

Today's show will be about 30 minutes, and you can tune in at http://www.wunderground.com/wxradio/wubroadcast.h tml. The show will be recorded and stored as a podcast.

Next post
I'll have a new post on Wednesday morning.

Jeff Masters
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2901. dracko19 4:29 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Quoting 7544:
thanks draco19 heading west also or will it be pulled north


um...you lost me. which storm are we talking about???
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2902. hunkerdown 4:30 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Quoting will40:


yup he is too easy
or too... s _ _ _ _ d
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2903. HadesGodWyvern 4:30 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Japan Meteorological Agency
Tropical Cyclone Advisory #4
TROPICAL DEPRESSION 14
12:00 PM JST September 15 2010
================================

SUBJECT: Tropical Depression In Sea East Of The Philippines

At 3:00 AM UTC, Tropical Depression (1006 hPa) located at 19.9N 128.0E has 10 minute sustained winds of 30 knots with gusts of 45 knots. The depression is reported as moving northwest at 10 knots

Dvorak Intensity:

Forecast and Intensity
=======================
24 HRS: 20.7N 127.3E - 35 knots (CAT 1/Tropical Storm)
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2904. TXEER 4:31 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Quoting AllBoardedUp:
Someone else was mentioning him. I don't know which blogger made the post.
I believe it is a French name because it was one of the original sirnames to the Acadians who migrated from Canada to Louisiana. Like I said though, I'm not 100 percent sure.


Cajun...and its "A bear"
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2905. swflurker 4:32 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
An Hebert Box (pronounced AY-bear, also known as Hebert's Box) is one of two regions of the tropical Atlantic Ocean that are useful as predictors of hurricanes that will strike South Florida, USA. They are named for former National Weather Service and National Hurricane Center forecaster Paul Hebert, who observed in the late 1970s that most strong hurricanes (characterized as those with winds exceeding 110 miles per hour (177 km/h)) which had struck South Florida since 1900 had also passed through one of these two small 335-mile-by-335-mile (517-km-by-517-km) square geographic regions.[1]

Quoting hunkerdown:
who is this Herbert character you are referring to ?
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2906. 7544 4:32 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Quoting dracko19:


um...you lost me. which storm are we talking about???


sorry the blob over cuba tia heading west or will it be pulled north ? y tia
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2907. DDR 4:32 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
What is that over the Windwards?
hmmmm...
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2908. Grothar 4:32 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Quoting JLPR2:


Ha! Had to read it twice to get it. XD My brain must be slow.

Doing good, but it seems my classes today, (well yesterday since it's 12am already), left my brain sad and very slow, how about over at your side, everything good?

And to not go out completely off topic here is an updated pic of Julia which looks impressive.


Everything good. Except some touchy people on here tonight who don't understand humor. Just watching the storms and the arguments. Glad you stayed safe. Could have been a bummer
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2909. PSLFLCaneVet 4:32 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Quoting PrivateIdaho:
If PSL is on it then I will be PROUD to be below average with him!...wouldn't be the first time I was on a list like that....lol
Why, Thank you Sir. May I buy you a drink?
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2910. hunkerdown 4:32 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Quoting 7544:
thanks draco19 heading west also or will it be pulled north
draco19 is heading west, didn't even know we had a draco19 out there...where are the models taking him :P
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2911. StormJunkie 4:33 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Quoting dracko19:


and how are the ratings decided on? Who makes the judgements on a posters quality? Is it done by poster or is each post individually rated? Could I be avg for several posts and then get rated above average for a single exceptional post? Who is the master rater? how does it work?


There is no master rater...it's more a "who has the most friends" type thing...or better stated, a "who has the most friends that are willing to hit the buttons on other posts." For a long time I didn't use the buttons unless it was an extremely offensive comment. But now it has gotten to the point of using it just for simple disagreements. Some of the folks that are hidden; are hidden for no real good reason. Don't get me wrong, I know there are some foul mouthed or completely off the wall posts, but many of these "below average" posters seem like great members of this community and help to make it what it is.
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2912. centex 4:33 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Here is a steering layer which may apply to Karl. Strong TS weakening over land in near future. I don't see what will push it south and think cone too far south. Remember it's currently going WNW. It will not go SW BOC landfall.
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2913. TXEER 4:33 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Quoting TXEER:


Cajun...and its "A bear"


In 1985, his rookie season with the NFL's New Orleans Saints, and in 1986, he split time with quarterback Dave Wilson. In 1987, he shared play with John Fourcade and took most of the snaps in 1988 and 1989. In 1990, he held out for more money. Therefore, Saints GM Jim Finks traded away several draft choices for Steve Walsh. In 1991 and 1992 he led the Saints to excellent starts and playoff appearances. For leading the 1991 Saints to their [then] "best start ever" Hebert was honored by gracing the front cover of the October 7, 1991 Sports Illustrated. In 1993, he was signed by the Atlanta Falcons and was selected to his only Pro Bowl that season. He took a small number of snaps as a backup to Jeff George in 1994 and 1995, as well as the first few games of 1996. Jeff George's infamous Sunday Night Football blowup caused Coach June Jones to bench George for the rest of the game. Jones then named Hebert starting QB. Hebert retired after his 1996 season with the Falcons.

His ex-wife Teresa owns an upscale clothing boutique in Georgia. They have four children together, daughters Ryan and Cammy and sons T-Bob and Beaux. T-Bob is currently the starting Center for the LSU Tigers football team.

Bobby Hebert is currently a co-host of a sports radio show on WWL 870 and 105.3 FM in New Orleans. He is also the spokesman for WOW Cafe & Wingery, based out of Covington, LA

On December 2, 2006, Hebert was honored by the City of Natchitoches, where he attended college at Northwestern State University, as the grand marshal of the annual Christmas lighting event. Bobby Hebert also rode as the grand marshal of Rex in the 2007 New Orleans Mardi Gras Parade. He is locally known for his very popular 4 July firework shows.
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2915. dracko19 4:33 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
IGOR ADT score down to 6.6 but 6.3 Adjusted/Raw

KARL holding at 2.5

JULIA at 5.0/5.5 and 6.1 Raw
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2916. 7544 4:33 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Quoting hunkerdown:
draco19 is heading west, didn't even know we had a draco19 out there...where are the models taking him :P


jajajaja lol
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2917. xcool 4:34 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    


PGI45L Caribbean
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2918. hunkerdown 4:34 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Quoting swflurker:
An Hebert Box (pronounced AY-bear, also known as Hebert's Box) is one of two regions of the tropical Atlantic Ocean that are useful as predictors of hurricanes that will strike South Florida, USA. They are named for former National Weather Service and National Hurricane Center forecaster Paul Hebert, who observed in the late 1970s that most strong hurricanes (characterized as those with winds exceeding 110 miles per hour (177 km/h)) which had struck South Florida since 1900 had also passed through one of these two small 335-mile-by-335-mile (517-km-by-517-km) square geographic regions.[1]

*repeatedly pounds forehead on table*

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2919. StormJunkie 4:34 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Quoting PSLFLCaneVet:
I don't think you'll regret the choice. Get a good circular polarizer for it. It's the only filter I use.


:) I hardly ever shoot with out a polarizing filter...Even on that garbage stock lens I have. A UV for indoors, just to protect the lens. Otherwise a polarizing filter is always on the camera.
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2920. DKICAT 4:35 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Hi guys long time lurker. You all kill me how you fight over tracks ect lol doomcasting ect. I know who to read and who's a troll starting crap. But looks like Igor is almost stalling out on a more west track then north .Is this true lil help guys thanks .
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2922. xcool 4:35 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
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2923. AllBoardedUp 4:35 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Quoting Grothar:


You are correct. The Longfellow poem "Evangeline" describes the journey. Epic work. I enjoyed teaching it.
What a ya know! I can't remember where I read the info. I know that Rogers was one of the original sirnames as well. That is my mothers maiden name. I believe it is pronounced Rah gay with a soft "g"
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2924. PSLFLCaneVet 4:35 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Quoting StormJunkie:


There is no master rater...it's more a "who has the most friends" type thing...or better stated, a "who has the most friends that are willing to hit the buttons on other posts." For a long time I didn't use the buttons unless it was an extremely offensive comment. But now it has gotten to the point of using it just for simple disagreements. Some of the folks that are hidden; are hidden for no real good reason. Don't get me wrong, I know there are some foul mouthed or completely off the wall posts, but many of these "below average" posters seem like great members of this community and help to make it what it is.
Word. (even though I don't use that in everyday life) lol
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2926. PrivateIdaho 4:36 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Quoting PSLFLCaneVet:
Why, Thank you Sir. May I buy you a drink?
not tonight, got to cut myself off. Starting a big project tomorrow. Hey click on my avitar, thats my nephew working his horse up in Teton Valley.
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2927. PSLFLCaneVet 4:36 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Quoting StormJunkie:


:) I hardly ever shoot with out a polarizing filter...Even on that garbage stock lens I have. A UV for indoors, just to protect the lens. Otherwise a polarizing filter is always on the camera.
Amen
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2928. StormJunkie 4:36 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Quoting PSLFLCaneVet:
Why, Thank you Sir. May I buy you a drink?


:) Still going to try and dig you guys out of the hole that I'm likely in with you! lmao
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2929. Grothar 4:38 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Quoting hunkerdown:
good thing the "H" name was not Herbert, could you imagine if he had passed through the Hebert Box and struck SFla as a major...


Don't even want to think about it. We got enough problems, don't ya think?
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2930. dracko19 4:38 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Quoting 7544:


sorry the blob over cuba tia heading west or will it be pulled north ? y tia


Hmm. Ok, is the blob over Cuba something to worry about...well, let's have a quick look...

Nope. Just checked the models and nothing is being picked up by them over Cuba next 3 days. Probably just some enhanced showers due to rainbands from KARL
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2931. PSLFLCaneVet 4:39 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Quoting PrivateIdaho:
not tonight, got to cut myself off. Starting a big project tomorrow. Hey click on my avitar, thats my nephew working his horse up in Teton Valley.
Beautiful. A Trotter? Awesome country. I love the mountains. Miss them here. All we really have in my town is the dump. We call it Mt. Trashmore.
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2933. PSLFLCaneVet 4:40 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Quoting StormJunkie:


:) Still going to try and dig you guys out of the hole that I'm likely in with you! lmao
Sounds like a plan. I'm in.
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2934. PrivateIdaho 4:41 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
My two cents....I can make my own decisions on what is a good post, don't need assistance. And I have NO ONE on ignore...I'm tempted some times but ignoring oppinions that differ from your own can be a bit stifling.
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2935. bcwolf303 4:41 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
lurker here, it seems quiet enough to ask this question, I keep hitting show all and it still is only showing me the average posts. Is there a way to set this in my personal settings for the blog. and where might I find those.
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2936. hunkerdown 4:41 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Quoting Grothar:


Don't even want to think about it. We got enough problems, don't ya think?
but that might have cured a lot of them...
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2937. Drakoen 4:42 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Tropical Storm in the Caribbean per the GFS 00z at 165hr:

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2938. xcool 4:42 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    



PGI45L Caribbean head nw
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2939. Grothar 4:43 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Quoting AllBoardedUp:
What a ya know! I can't remember where I read the info. I know that Rogers was one of the original sirnames as well. That is my mothers maiden name. I believe it is pronounced Rah gay with a soft "g"


Interesting, actually, that name would have been of Nordic origins and brought to France buy the Normans. The French would have spelled it Rogier and would have pronounced it the way you described above. Some of the older French kept the spelling Rogers and still pronounced it Rah-gay or Ru-zhay. French spelling has varied greatly over the past few centuries.

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2940. hunkerdown 4:43 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Quoting Drakoen:
Tropical Storm in the Caribbean per the GFS 00z at 165hr:

couldn't get much further south...true or not I'm not sure I am buying the placement of it
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2941. NRAamy 4:43 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Can't we just call it Herbie, The Love Box, and be done with it?



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2942. PrivateIdaho 4:43 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Quoting TXEER:


In 1985, his rookie season with the NFL's New Orleans Saints, and in 1986, he split time with quarterback Dave Wilson. In 1987, he shared play with John Fourcade and took most of the snaps in 1988 and 1989. In 1990, he held out for more money. Therefore, Saints GM Jim Finks traded away several draft choices for Steve Walsh. In 1991 and 1992 he led the Saints to excellent starts and playoff appearances. For leading the 1991 Saints to their [then] "best start ever" Hebert was honored by gracing the front cover of the October 7, 1991 Sports Illustrated. In 1993, he was signed by the Atlanta Falcons and was selected to his only Pro Bowl that season. He took a small number of snaps as a backup to Jeff George in 1994 and 1995, as well as the first few games of 1996. Jeff George's infamous Sunday Night Football blowup caused Coach June Jones to bench George for the rest of the game. Jones then named Hebert starting QB. Hebert retired after his 1996 season with the Falcons.

His ex-wife Teresa owns an upscale clothing boutique in Georgia. They have four children together, daughters Ryan and Cammy and sons T-Bob and Beaux. T-Bob is currently the starting Center for the LSU Tigers football team.

Bobby Hebert is currently a co-host of a sports radio show on WWL 870 and 105.3 FM in New Orleans. He is also the spokesman for WOW Cafe & Wingery, based out of Covington, LA

On December 2, 2006, Hebert was honored by the City of Natchitoches, where he attended college at Northwestern State University, as the grand marshal of the annual Christmas lighting event. Bobby Hebert also rode as the grand marshal of Rex in the 2007 New Orleans Mardi Gras Parade. He is locally known for his very popular 4 July firework shows.
Remember that well...I was station at NAS Belle Chase back then and got to go to some games. They had a great defense know as "The Dome Patrol" back then.
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2943. sunlinepr 4:44 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Hey, that dog is like me right now.... doesn't trusts any Igor prediction
Quoting hunkerdown:
but that might have cured a lot of them...
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2944. leo305 4:44 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Quoting bcwolf303:
lurker here, it seems quiet enough to ask this question, I keep hitting show all and it still is only showing me the average posts. Is there a way to set this in my personal settings for the blog. and where might I find those.


it's happening to me too
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2945. centex 4:44 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Quoting dracko19:


Hmm. Ok, is the blob over Cuba something to worry about...well, let's have a quick look...

Nope. Just checked the models and nothing is being picked up by them over Cuba next 3 days. Probably just some enhanced showers due to rainbands from KARL
Same kind of thing we expect in Texas even with landfall hundreds of miles south of border and dies in mountains. Mets are talking about the moisture influx. Just keep it south, if turns N it would get stronger with time. I don't think we have many Texas wishcasters at this point.
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2946. txsweetpea 4:44 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Quoting bcwolf303:
lurker here, it seems quiet enough to ask this question, I keep hitting show all and it still is only showing me the average posts. Is there a way to set this in my personal settings for the blog. and where might I find those.

I am having the same problem
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2947. dracko19 4:45 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Quoting DKICAT:
Hi guys long time lurker. You all kill me how you fight over tracks ect lol doomcasting ect. I know who to read and who's a troll starting crap. But looks like Igor is almost stalling out on a more west track then north .Is this true lil help guys thanks .


Hello DKICAT. Welcome to the party!!

IGOR is a Hurricane in flux at the moment. It is going through some reorginization and has been up to CAT 5 stength tonight (we believe) and down to as low as CAT 3. When you have Hurricanes with that big of intensity swings, its not uncommon for them to act a little erratic in their travel paths. This is usually due to the fact that stronger hurricanes are more effected by the upper wind fields than weaker/shallower hurricanes. So, you get a little bit of different pulling mechanisms on them depending on their strength. In any event, there hasn't been any great changes in the atmospheric set up the last couple of days and the expectation is the Hurricane will eventually go NW over the next couple of days. I wouldn't focus too much on a 6 hour path. Look at the average over 24 hours and it should give you a better feel of the direction.
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2948. Seawall 4:45 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Quoting hunkerdown:
good thing the "H" name was not Herbert, could you imagine if he had passed through the Hebert Box and struck SFla as a major...

Then we would have to explain everything again.. how the H is silent, and it's A-Bear.... LOL
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2949. Grothar 4:45 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Quoting NRAamy:
Can't we just call it Herbie, The Love Box, and be done with it?





Wasn't there a movie about a car with that name?
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2951. txsweetpea 4:46 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Quoting leo305:


it's happening to me too

As soon as I posted a comment "my showed all"
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Jeff co-founded the Weather Underground in 1995 while working on his Ph.D. He flew with the NOAA Hurricane Hunters from 1986-1990.

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