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Igor turns west-northwest; Julia a hurricane; 92L growing more organized
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 1:49 PM GMT en Septiembre 14, 2010 +3
Hurricane Igor remains an impressive Category 4 hurricane with 135 mph winds over the Central Atlantic. Though Igor's winds are 15 mph weaker than at its 150 mph peak yesterday, the hurricane continues to maintain the classic appearance of a major hurricane on satellite imagery, with a well-formed eye, plenty of low-level spiral bands, and solid upper-level outflow to the north and south.


Figure 1. Hurricane Igor as seen by the MODIS instrument on NASA's Aqua satellite at 12:40 pm EDT Monday, September 13, 2010. Image credit: NASA.

Intensity forecast for Igor
Wind shear is low, 5 - 10 knots, and is expected to remain low for the next 3 - 4 days. Waters are warm, 28.7°C, and will warm to 29°C by Wednesday. Igor has moistened its environment enough to keep the dry air of the Saharan Air Layer (SAL) at bay. These conditions should allow Igor to remain at major hurricane status for the next 3 - 4 days. The hurricane will probably undergo one of the usual eyewall replacement cycles intense hurricanes commonly have, where the eyewall collapses and a new eyewall forms from an outer spiral band. This will weaken the hurricane by 10 - 20 mph when it occurs, and may be responsible for the 15 mph weakening Igor experienced since yesterday. Igor will probably regain its lost intensity when the cycle completes in the 12 - 36 hours. By Saturday, when Igor should be nearing Bermuda, the trough of low pressure steering Igor northwestwards should bring moderate wind shear of 10 - 20 knots to the storm, weakening it. Igor will also be tracking over cooler 28°C waters then.

Track forecast for Igor
The track forecast for Igor remains unchanged. Igor has made its long-anticipated turn to the west-northwest, in response to the steering influence of a broad trough of low pressure moving across the Western Atlantic. This trough will steer Igor several hundred miles to the northeast of the Lesser Antilles, and high waves should be the only impact of Igor on the islands. In the longer range, Igor appears likely to be a threat to Bermuda, and that island can expect tropical storm force winds as early as Friday. Igor does have a small chance of making landfall on the U.S. East Coast or Canada. Climatology shows that about 20% of all tropical cyclones that have existed at Igor's current position have gone on to hit the U.S. East Coast; these odds are about 5 - 10% for Bermuda and 15% for Canada. The forecast steering current pattern for the period 5 - 10 days from now from the ECMWF and GFS models shows several modest troughs of low pressure moving across the Western Atlantic. These troughs will probably be strong enough to recurve Igor out sea. However, 5 - 10 day forecasts are prone to large errors, and it is too early to be highly confident that Igor will miss hitting the U.S. or Canadian coasts.

Wave forecast for Igor
Large swells from Igor have arrived in the Northern Lesser Antilles Islands, and will spread westwards over the next few days, reaching the U.S. East Coast on Friday. By Saturday, much of the East Coast from northern Florida to Cape Cod Massachusetts can expect waves of 3 - 4 meters (10 - 13 feet), causing dangerous rip currents and significant beach erosion. These waves will continue through Sunday then gradually die down. The latest NOAA marine forecast for Cape Hatteras, North Carolina calls for 8 - 11 foot waves on Saturday.


Figure 3. Forecast wave heights for 2pm EDT Saturday September 18, 2010, as predicted by 00 UTC 9/14/2010 run of NOAA's Wavewatch III model.

Caribbean disturbance 92L
Tropical disturbance 92L over the Western Caribbean, between Jamaica and the Yucatan Peninsula, has become more organized this morning. The storm remains a threat to develop into a tropical depression, but time is running out for it to do so. There is no evidence of a surface circulation on satellite loops this morning, but the cloud pattern of 92L has become more circular, with low-level spiral bands developing on the west and north sides of the storm. 92L has a moderate but increasing area of intense thunderstorms; these are bringing heavy rains to Jamaica, the Cayman Islands, and western Cuba this morning.


Figure 3. Morning satellite image of 92L.

Forecast for 92L
Rains from 92L will spread over Belize, Northern Guatemala, and Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula tonight through Wednesday, bringing peak accumulations in the 4 - 8 inch range. Lesser peak amounts of 2 - 4 inches are possible over northern Honduras. Wind shear over 92L is low, 5 - 10 knots, and is expected to remain low for the next five days. The waters beneath are hot, 29.7°C, and these warm waters extend to great depth. Water vapor satellite loops show a large area of dry air lies to the north and west of 92L; this dry air has been interfering with development of 92L, and will continue to do so. NHC is putting the odds of 92L developing into a tropical depression by Thursday at 40%; I'll give it a 50% chance. Given the current disorganized state of 92L, it would be difficult for it to intensify quickly enough to become any stronger than a tropical storm with 50 mph winds by Wednesday afternoon, when it will move over Belize and Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula. Once 92L crosses the Yucatan, the ridge of high pressure steering it is expected to remain in place, forcing 92L west or west-southwest to a second landfall in Mexico between Veracruz and Poza Rica early Saturday morning. The shape of Mexico's Bay of Campeche and the topography of the mountains surrounding the Bay help air spiral in a counterclockwise fashion, aiding tropical storm development, and 92L has its best chance of development once it crosses into the Bay of Campeche. With the shear there expected to be low and the waters warm, I give a high 70% chance that 92L will be a tropical depression or tropical storm in the Bay of Campeche. The GFDL model is predicting 92L could be a hurricane at landfall near Veracruz on Saturday morning; the other intensity models are much less aggressive. Given the rapid development of Hermine in a similar location last week, residents of the Mexican Gulf Coast should be wary of the possibility that 92L could intensify into at least a strong tropical storm before making landfall Friday night or Saturday morning. A Hurricane Hunter aircraft is scheduled to investigate 92L this afternoon.

Julia
Hurricane Julia is headed northwest, out to sea, and it is unlikely that this storm will trouble any land areas. The intensification of Julia into a hurricane brings our activity tally for the 2010 Atlantic hurricane season to 10 named storms, 5 hurricanes, and 3 intense hurricanes. An average season has 10 named storms, 6 hurricanes, and 2 intense hurricanes, so we've already had a full season's worth of activity, with about 45% of the season still to come.

Shear will be low to moderate, 5 - 20 knots, over Julia during the next two days. Shear will rise sharply to 30 knots 3 - 5 days from now, as Julia moves within 1000 miles of Igor and begins to experience strong northwesterly winds from her big brother's upper level outflow. Julia does have a window of opportunity today and Wednesday to intensify into a Category 2 hurricane before the shear rises.

Elsewhere in the tropics
The GFS and ECMWF models are suggesting the possibility of a new tropical depression forming a few hundred miles off the coast of Africa about seven days from now.

"Hurricane Haven" airing this afternoon
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Next post
I'll have a new post on Wednesday morning.

Jeff Masters
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1751. Levi32 11:59 PM GMT en Septiembre 14, 2010    
Quoting StormW:


Levi, did you see this earlier?



Indeed. It could be a nasty setup for a storm developing in the Caribbean like the GFS shows.
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1752. notverylikely 12:00 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Quoting JLPR2:


Sure.


Thanks!!
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1753. MiamiHurricanes09 12:00 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Quoting KoritheMan:


And yet, the models still want to recurve it. I smell a rat.
Oh, never mind, I was thinking of a separate system (the one that goes into the Caribbean by the GFS).
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1755. StormJunkie 12:00 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Quoting Levi32:


No no, just look at the microwave pass to confirm. That's dry air intrusion and an open eye wall.



Definitely an eroded eyewall there. Interesting. Most models have been showing weakening after he starts to turn correct Levi?
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1756. Hurricanes101 12:00 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
Yeah, the one near the southern Leeward islands being developed by the GFS. It would make sense considering the timing and the fact that it is emerging near 8N.


from what I am seeing on the GFS, that wave becomes Lisa and stays out to sea. The storm the GFS is developing in the Caribbean comes from the ITCZ
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1757. pottery 12:00 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Quoting Levi32:


No no, just look at the microwave pass to confirm. That's dry air intrusion and an open eye wall.


He is banging up against dry air to the west and north all now..
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1758. KoritheMan 12:01 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
Oh, never mind, I was thinking of a separate system (the one that goes into the Caribbean by the GFS).


Ah. I'm aware of that system as well, but it's beyond seven days, and I don't generally pay attention beyond said time frame.
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1759. Levi32 12:01 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Quoting PSUweathermet:


That makes sense, i would wait to see if the western side continues to flatten though, i remember it began to flatten last night, and then expanded again. You think this will persist?


I think that it will remain rather flattened through tonight, as the pattern aloft favors subsidence west of the hurricane and that is why dry air is getting into the circulation now. However, it is possible Igor will make another comeback as the first trough lifts out and the flow aloft becomes more zonal again to the north of the hurricane.
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1760. notverylikely 12:01 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
AtHomeInTX Thanks to you too!!!
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1761. stormpetrol 12:01 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Quoting BVImom:
Storm, I couldn't resist, I think you all mean


LMAO!!!
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1762. MiamiHurricanes09 12:01 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Quoting Hurricanes101:


from what I am seeing on the GFS, that wave becomes Lisa and stays out to sea. The storm the GFS is developing in the Caribbean comes from the ITCZ
Yeah, you're right.
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1763. PSUweathermet 12:01 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Link

Huge hot tower in the NW quad!! rapid scan image
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1764. Hurricanes101 12:02 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Quoting KoritheMan:


Ah. I'm aware of that system as well, but it's beyond seven days, and I don't generally pay attention beyond said time frame.


I would normally agree, but the GFS has been very consistent with this
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1765. UKHWatcher 12:02 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Quoting WeatherNerdPR:
In WV, there's a lot of stuff in the entire North Atlantic. Besides our Atlantic Storm Parade, there's a gale approaching Europe that seems to be taking moisture from Julia and pumping it to Spain/Portugal.


That's wahat I saw on the loop that may affect me in the long run, see the current steering
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1767. Levi32 12:03 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Quoting tramp96:

Thanks and I can honestly say your video blog is the greatest thing since sliced bread. Now if you could get Storm hooked up.


Well thanks :) Yeah....he just needs a mic and a drawing program and he'll be all set!
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1769. bwat 12:03 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Quoting notverylikely:


Is THIS 'pumping the ridge'?

"From Dr. Masters, regarding the topic of a Hurricane Pumping the Ridge:

"Hi StormW,

Not sure I'll find time to discuss this, but here are some possibly helpful studies:

An interesting study of this problem was performed by Ross and Kurihara (MWR, 1995)
for Hurricane Gloria. They ran the GFDL model with and without the hurricane
included and looked at the differences in the model fields. The differences were
pretty large and spread far from the storm, especially in the upper levels. This
paper provides some evidence for the influence of a hurricane on its environment.

Bob Merrill (1984) did an observational comparison of small and large storms.

There are cases such as Georges (1998) where the mid- tropospheric ridging north of
the TC is relatively weak, yet the TC maintains a general westward heading for some
time. Another example might be Hurricane Donna (1960), when forecasters remarked
out at the long westerly track of the TC even though there were westerly winds at
mid- to upper-levels ahead of it over the Florida peninsula.

A June 2009 JAS study, based on idealized simulations might be of interest:

http://www.atmos.ucla.edu/~fovell/fovel ... o-2009.pdf

Jeff"
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1770. pinehurstnc 12:03 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
any hoo, gone with the wind is on tv,, i think thats weather related,,,,
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1772. stormwatcherCI 12:04 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Quoting StormW:


Yeah...I don't like that set up at all.
Me either. LOL
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1773. Vero1 12:04 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Wave over Africa

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1774. Levi32 12:04 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Quoting PSLFLCaneVet:
Levi, looking at the floater wv loop, it seems the outflow is improving slightly to the west at present. Your take?


It will go through pulses. Relative to the eastern side, the western side is still getting eroded. Sometime tomorrow I think the storm may become more symmetrical again for a time.
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1776. Levi32 12:05 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Quoting StormJunkie:


Definitely an eroded eyewall there. Interesting. Most models have been showing weakening after he starts to turn correct Levi?


Yes, as all hurricanes naturally do weaken after they turn north because they are encountering a trough, but as long as he's moving northwest he can maintain Cat 4 intensity, and he could still push Cat 5 if dry air would leave him alone.
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1777. Hurricanes101 12:05 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Quoting KerryInNOLA:
Earl seems to finally be getting his act together as he approaches Yucatan. 50% chance he will eventually become a TS.


???
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1778. doorman79 12:05 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Quoting KerryInNOLA:
Earl seems to finally be getting his act together as he approaches Yucatan. 50% chance he will eventually become a TS.


Huh?
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1779. plywoodstatenative 12:05 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
SJ I saw some map earlier showing effects of Igor wind wise, SE Florida was in that map with regards to wind speeds. What your take on that
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1780. bwat 12:06 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Quoting KerryInNOLA:
Earl seems to finally be getting his act together as he approaches Yucatan. 50% chance he will eventually become a TS.
I spy something that should begin with the letter "k", instead of "e". :)
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1782. JLPR2 12:06 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Quoting Levi32:


It will go through pulses. Relative to the eastern side, the western side is still getting eroded. Sometime tomorrow I think the storm may become more symmetrical again for a time.


Western side recovered, check the rapid scan. XD
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1783. Hurricanes101 12:07 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Quoting pilotguy1:


Nore should most of us. I would like someone far more educated than I to tell me the percentage of accuracy of these models. I just think they are largely guesses that far out. IMHO.


percentages would be nearly impossible to predict, however in terms of development in the long range, the GFS has been very good this year.
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1784. StormJunkie 12:07 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Quoting plywoodstatenative:
SJ I saw some map earlier showing effects of Igor wind wise, SE Florida was in that map with regards to wind speeds. What your take on that


Not sure, I would have to see the map. I imagine Fla could get a light breeze created by Igor's larger circulation.
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1786. plywoodstatenative 12:07 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Levi,

So if that trough lifts out, does it then allow the system to pick its own path instead of following the trough?
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1787. PSUweathermet 12:07 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Quoting StormW:


I think he meant Karl.


still karls already a TS
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1788. KoritheMan 12:07 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Quoting Hurricanes101:


I would normally agree, but the GFS has been very consistent with this


It's possible. At the very least, it appears that increased moisture will overspread the Caribbean during that time.
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1789. Hurricanes101 12:07 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Quoting StormW:


I think he meant Karl.


he also said something that is already a TS has a 50% of becoming a TS lol
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1790. clwstmchasr 12:08 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Quoting KerryInNOLA:
Earl seems to finally be getting his act together as he approaches Yucatan. 50% chance he will eventually become a TS.


Earl?
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1792. Vero1 12:08 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Karl @ 06:38:28 UTC

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1793. plywoodstatenative 12:08 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
SJ in your own opinion, do you think that with the way the pattern is set up currently. We could see a landfalling southern system?
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1795. Levi32 12:10 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Quoting JLPR2:


Western side recovered, check the rapid scan. XD


50 minutes old and look at how lopsided it is.

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1796. Joanie38 12:10 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Quoting StormW:


Hi Joanie!


Hi StormW! :) I have a question...When is that ridge in the Northern GOM suppose to subside???
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1797. bwat 12:10 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Quoting notverylikely:
So a flattening trof can be compared to, say, fallen arches?
I'm not trying to be short, because I did the same thing last year when I signed on. My advice is google is your friend. I would search for my answer on google first, and if I couldnt find it, then I would ask. Like I said don't mean to be short with ya, just trying to save ya from the almighty "poof".
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1798. Levi32 12:11 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Quoting plywoodstatenative:
Levi,

So if that trough lifts out, does it then allow the system to pick its own path instead of following the trough?


Hurricanes don't pick a path. They follow the path of least resistance. If the trough lifts out quicker and the ridge is allowed to nose in to the north, the path of least resistance will be found farther west until the storm can round the ridge.
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1799. centex 12:11 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
My weather station rain graghics. We are already at normal annual amount. Another big one would really be historic. I've seen lots of flash floods before in this area but this put so much down over such a big area that the return to normal has been much slower.
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1800. JLPR2 12:11 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
Quoting Levi32:


50 minutes old and look at how lopsided it is.



Ah! Didn't meant to say it is recovered completely :|
But it isn't deteriorating anymore.
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1801. notverylikely 12:11 AM GMT en Septiembre 15, 2010    
bwat...thanks
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