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92L still a threat to develop; Igor a hurricane; TD 12 forming near Africa
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 2:18 PM GMT en Septiembre 12, 2010 +1
Tropical disturbance (92L) over the Central Caribbean, a few hundred miles south of the Dominican Republic, remains a threat to develop into a tropical depression. Satellite loops this morning show 92L may be starting to form a surface circulation, and an Air Force Hurricane Hunter aircraft will investigate 92L this afternoon to see if a tropical depression is forming.

The storm has only a modest area of heavy thunderstorm with limited low-level spiral banding and upper-level outflow, thanks to an infusion of dry air last night that disrupted the storm. Long range radar out of Puerto Rico shows that heavy rains are affecting that island, but there is no rotation to the radar echoes evident. Wind shear over 92L is low, 5 - 10 knots. The waters beneath are hot, 29.5°C, and these warm waters extend to great depth. Water vapor satellite loops show a large area of dry air lies to the north and west of 92L, and this dry air could interfere with development at times over the next few days.


Figure 1. Morning satellite image of 92L.

Track forecast for 92L
The disturbance is moving west to west-northwest at 15 mph, and steering currents favor a continuation of this motion for the next three days. Model support for development is scattered. The GFS and NOGAPS models do not develop 92L. The GFDL and ECMWF models predict development, with a track taking 92L into Belize or Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula on Wednesday. On this track, the southern Dominican Republic can expect heavy rains of 3 - 6 inches today through Monday morning; southern Haiti can expect similar rains tonight through Monday night, and Jamaica and the Cayman Islands can expect heavier rains of 4 - 8 inches Monday and Tuesday. Eastern Cuba can expect rains in the 2 - 4 inch range. Once 92L crosses the Yucatan, the ridge of high pressure steering it is expected to remain in place, forcing 92L to a second landfall in Mexico south of the Texas border.

Intensity forecast for 92L
NHC is putting the odds of 92L developing into a tropical depression by Tuesday at 50%; I'd put them higher, at 70%. However, time is running out for 92L to become a hurricane before hitting the Yucatan Peninsula on Wednesday. Given the current disorganized state of 92L, it would be difficult for it to intensify quickly enough to become a hurricane by then. The storm may also suffer another of its mysterious evening collapses, where it loses most of its heavy thunderstorm activity. However, the SHIPS model predicts wind shear will remain low, 5 - 10 knots, through the period, and water temperatures are certainly warm enough to support development. The main detriment to intensification is likely to be dry air, and 92L could wrap in some of the dry air to its northwest at times, slowing down development. There are a number of research flights being made into 92L this afternoon that should help long-term efforts to make better predictions in the future on whether or not disturbances like this will develop or not.


Figure 2. Morning satellite image of Igor.

Igor
Hurricane Igor appears destined to become a large and powerful major hurricane over the Central Atlantic in the days to come. Wind shear is low, 5 - 10 knots, and is expected to drop below 5 knots for the next five days. Waters are warm, 28°C, and will warm to 29°C by Wednesday. Igor has moistened its environment enough to keep the dry air of the Saharan Air Layer (SAL) at bay. Igor is undergoing a period of rapid intensification today, and will probably be a Category 3 or 4 hurricane by Monday.

The track forecast for Igor remains unchanged. Igor will move west under the influence of a strong ridge of high pressure for the next 2 - 3 days, then turn more to the west-northwest then northwest in response to the steering influence of a broad trough of low pressure moving across the Western Atlantic on Tuesday and Wednesday. This should allow Igor to pass several hundred miles to the northeast of the Lesser Antilles. In the longer range, Igor may be a threat to Bermuda, and does have a small chance of making landfall on the U.S. East Coast or Canada. Climatology shows that about 15% of all tropical cyclones that have existed at Igor's current position have gone on to hit the U.S. East Coast; these odds are about 10% for Bermuda and 10% for Canada. The forecast steering pattern for the period 5 - 12 days from now from the ECMWF and GFS models shows a continuation of the pattern we've seen all hurricane season, with regular strong troughs of low pressure moving off the U.S. East Coast. This pattern favors Igor eventually recurving out to sea without affecting any land areas. Recent runs of the ECMWF model indicate that these troughs may not be as intense as previously thought, so it is possible Igor has a higher chance than usual to hit land than climatology suggests. One wild card may be the possible development of TD 12 behind Igor. If TD 12 develops into a hurricane, and moves close to Igor, as some of the models are suggesting, the two hurricanes could rotate around a common center, forcing Igor more towards the coast of the U.S. The long term fate of Igor is difficult to predict at this point.

Tropical Depression Twelve forms
Tropical Depression Twelve formed between the Cape Verdes Islands and coast of Africa this morning, and is already affecting the Cape Verdes with winds near tropical storm strength; sustained winds of 35 mph were recorded in the northwest Cape Verdes this morning. You can follow the progress of TD 12 through the Cape Verdes today using our wundermap.

Next post
I'll have a new post Monday morning, and perhaps late this afternoon if events warrant.

Jeff Masters
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2601. RufusBaker 12:45 AM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2010    
Wow that eye is really starting to tighten up
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2602. Ameister12 12:45 AM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2010    
Quoting Stormchaser2007:
Couple of hours old, but...

WOW


That image looks so cool!
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2603. jdj32 12:45 AM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2010    
Recon Data for Google Earth is available at:

http://tropicalatlantic.com/recon/
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2604. LongIslandXpress38 12:45 AM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2010    
Quoting FLGatorCaneNut:


That's exactly what Max Mayfield (retired NHC Director) has preached for many years.... People think there is a cat.2 storm on the way and don't think much of it only to find when they wake up in the morning it's a cat 4 and too late to evacuate etc.


Kinda like what Opal did in 1995..
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2605. traumaboyy 12:46 AM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2010    
Quoting Stormchaser2007:
Couple of hours old, but...

WOW



Wow....IGOR IS MONSTER!!!
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2606. originalLT 12:46 AM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2010    
Yeah, post 2589, it could recurve right into it(Bermuda) It's very possible.
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2607. KoritheMan 12:46 AM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2010    
Quoting traumaboyy:


Great blog post KORI, I take a little nap and you let the place go crazy with a CAT 5???


Thanks man! Igor's certainly a beast. I admit, he even surprised me. Which is rare.
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2608. luigi18 12:46 AM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2010    
Quoting Levi32:
Igor will likely be the single greatest ACE contributer to the 2010 Atlantic hurricane season.

Hello Levi i see the jog to the South too ,we are in PR and i begin feeling nervous do you think we are not save yet?
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2609. stormwatcherCI 12:46 AM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2010    
Quoting belizeit:
They'll probly make another pass then we will know for sure but i think it has
Thanks.
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2610. BDAwx 12:46 AM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2010    
Apparently all our buildings have to be able to withstand sustained winds of at least 110mph - correct me if I am wrong. I mean it makes sense when everything here is so expensive and we get vicious storms so frequently.
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2611. Stormchaser2007 12:46 AM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2010    
00:15

Perfect eye.

Might be stronger than 150 mph...

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2612. dracko19 12:47 AM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2010    


I didn't know EARTH had a GREAT RED SPOT on it! I'll bet JUPITER is envious tonight!
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2614. AstroHurricane001 12:47 AM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2010    
Quoting Drakoen:
Water vapor imagery show the eye has completely clear out with the system firing the most intense cloud tops in the southeast quadrant.


Weak wind shear from the south or southeast...a cold east wind at the 200 mbar level...SSTs no greater than 28.5C. Rut roh!
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2615. CosmicEvents 12:47 AM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2010    
Quoting dmaddox:
officially? by whom?
By the powers vested in this blog.
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2616. cyclonekid 12:47 AM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2010    
So..I get Igor and the new Julia I suppose..but will 92L ever develop?? If so, where's the best chance for it to?
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2617. Levi32 12:48 AM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2010    
Quoting kingzfan104:
someone said earlier that you thought this trough had a chance to miss it and the high to build back in and send this toward florida and the SE coast.

1) is this true
2) what chance do you have of this happening



First trough won't do much to him. I think he will be south of the NHC/model forecast at Days 4 and 5. I still think recurvature east of the US is most likely but there is enough variance in the pattern for me to be worried that he tries to come back all the way to the SE US coast. It's still the outlier solution at this point, but it can't be dismissed.
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2618. MiamiHurricanes09 12:48 AM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2010    
Quoting Stormchaser2007:
00:15

Perfect eye.

Might be stronger than 150 mph...

I agree. I think he's somewhere between 150-160mph.
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2619. Stormchaser2007 12:48 AM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2010    
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2620. LouisianaWoman 12:49 AM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2010    
Does anyone have the link for the program that runs annular scans on tropical cyclones? I think MH09 posted it when Earl was up to bat.
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2622. bird72 12:49 AM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2010    
Hurricane Hugo Luquillo Puerto Rico.

Link
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2623. CybrTeddy 12:49 AM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2010    
SAB has Igor at 6.5.
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2624. xcool 12:49 AM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2010    




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2625. KoritheMan 12:49 AM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2010    
Quoting cyclonekid:
So..I get Igor and the new Julia I suppose..but will 92L ever develop?? If so, where's the best chance for it to?


If it's going to do so, it needs to do so before it runs into the Yucatan. I'm starting to have my doubts, but I still think it has a decent chance.
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2626. hurricanehunter27 12:50 AM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2010    
You guys all know it is a Cat 5 right now. The only reason the NHC would not put it at Cat 5 is if it goes through EWR. I bet the winds on Igor are at 160-170mph it is a beast of a storm. The IR sat shows a perfect eye and a nice ring of convection. To me this is the strongest storm iv seen other than rita and wilma.
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2627. Chicklit 12:50 AM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2010    
Quoting Levi32:
Igor will likely be the single greatest ACE contributer to the 2010 Atlantic hurricane season.


We're only half-way there.
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2628. Levi32 12:50 AM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2010    
Quoting luigi18:

Hello Levi i see the jog to the South too ,we are in PR and i begin feeling nervous do you think we are not save yet?


I think it's pretty unlikely that you'd get a direct hit, but there's a chance he passes by close enough to the north that you get the outskirts of the system. Be ready for that possibility, but we'll know more when he's approaching 60W.
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2630. CaneAddict 12:50 AM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2010    
Quoting CybrTeddy:
Tropical Storm JULIA.

AL, 12, 2010091300, , BEST, 0, 133N, 229W, 35, 1005, TS

10-4-3.

7 more to my prediction. Very probable.



And we are just slightly a little more then halfway through the season...plenty of time for 7-12 more storms.
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2631. watercayman 12:50 AM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2010    
Quoting AWeatherLover:
The wave behind TD12 looks pretty vigorous this evening. It's looked pretty impressive all day. Reminds me of TS Christina (1972 I believe, but I could be off). It was designated a TD while still over Africa. The only one to do so if I remember correctly.


Ah! Thanks for pointing this out - been looking for a storm that started over Africa all day. Here's Christine:

http://www.wunderground.com/data/dhc_archive_charts/at_1973_charts/at197304.gif
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2632. Eugeniopr 12:50 AM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2010    
Link

I think yhis is one of the latest satellite photo. Can anyone tell me where is the center?
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2633. CaneAddict 12:51 AM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2010    
Quoting Chicklit:
Quoting Levi32:
Igor will likely be the single greatest ACE contributer to the 2010 Atlantic hurricane season.


We're only half-way there.


Agreed!
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2634. LongIslandXpress38 12:51 AM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2010    
Quoting Levi32:



First trough won't do much to him. I think he will be south of the NHC/model forecast at Days 4 and 5. I still think recurvature east of the US is most likely but there is enough variance in the pattern for me to be worried that he tries to come back all the way to the SE US coast. It's still the outlier solution at this point, but it can't be dismissed.


Trough was weakening when it went through my house in New York today..hardly even rained..
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2635. 7544 12:51 AM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2010    
wow igor double in size in less than 24 hours getting stonger too but still like to go west all eyes on igor

africa wave beats 92l and is julia

92l trying to hold

new blob by the bahamas ?

whats next
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2636. xcool 12:51 AM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2010    


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2637. RufusBaker 12:51 AM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2010    
Link check out the last frame...The eye is smooth all the way around wich means those winds are SCREAMING.
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2638. weatherwart 12:51 AM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2010    
Quoting Levi32:



First trough won't do much to him. I think he will be south of the NHC/model forecast at Days 4 and 5. I still think recurvature east of the US is most likely but there is enough variance in the pattern for me to be worried that he tries to come back all the way to the SE US coast. It's still the outlier solution at this point, but it can't be dismissed.


Levi, I'm listening to Storm and he has the same concerns. He's favoring the south tracks at this point and is concerned about that second high without a trof to pull Igor north.
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2639. Drakoen 12:52 AM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2010    
Quoting Levi32:
Igor has begun a WSW jog during the last couple hours after being on a due west heading. Just a jog but worth pointing out as it may take Igor south of the next forecast point.


If you look at the water vapor imagery out ahead of the storm you can see that the mid to upper level flow is coming down from northeast which may be why it is taking that jog south of due west.
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2640. WeatherNerdPR 12:52 AM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2010    
Quoting Stormchaser2007:
00:15

Perfect eye.

Might be stronger than 150 mph...


Igor is living up to his name...
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2641. WeatherMSK 12:52 AM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2010    
Definately starting to worry about Igor because the models are now starting to depict that WNW-NW turn and then back to a W heading right around 65W that I was thinking would happen yesterday. That puts the east coast at threat as I do think all the models will continue to trend west in general.

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2642. Levi32 12:52 AM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2010    
Quoting Chicklit:
Quoting Levi32:
Igor will likely be the single greatest ACE contributer to the 2010 Atlantic hurricane season.


We're only half-way there.


Yeah but we probably won't get another opportunity for a storm to develop right off of Africa, literally right off, and then become a major rather fast and take a long track all the way across the Atlantic and make a sweeping recurve. That racks up the most ACE points you can ask for in the Atlantic, and Cape Verde season will be winding down soon.
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2643. stillwaiting 12:53 AM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2010    
So my best guess for 11pm is:td13,35mph,ts julia,40mph,igor cat4,150mph,first cat 5 by tomorrow morning 160mph....time to get hyper,oh 94l's on the way as well,hmmm could some form along the stationary front that will be dropping south?????,stay tuned.......
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2644. Stormchaser2007 12:53 AM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2010    
Quoting hurricanehunter27:
You guys all know it is a Cat 5 right now. The only reason the NHC would not put it at Cat 5 is if it goes through EWR. I bet the winds on Igor are at 160-170mph it is a beast of a storm. The IR sat shows a perfect eye and a nice ring of convection. To me this is the strongest storm iv seen other than rita and wilma.


The only reason it isn't a Category 5 is because we don't have any reliable data other than ADT, which says its at 150 mph. If there was and it was saying it is a Category 5, it would be one. Simple.

Plus, storms this compact and intense rarely go through EWRC's.
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2645. Flyairbird 12:53 AM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2010    
Quoting BDAwx:
Apparently all our buildings have to be able to withstand sustained winds of at least 110mph - correct me if I am wrong. I mean it makes sense when everything here is so expensive and we get vicious storms so frequently.
I was just reading up on bermuda.... this blog about Bermuda vs. Florida Is funny....http://www.limeyinbermuda.com/latest_news/2006/06/hurricaneproof_.html some of the comments are spot on tho.
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2646. kingzfan104 12:53 AM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2010    
2647. traumaboyy 12:53 AM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2010    
Quoting weatherwart:


Levi, I'm listening to Storm and he has the same concerns. He's favoring the south tracks at this point and is concerned about that second high without a trof to pull Igor north.


Where are you listening to the Chief??....Is the BB show on??
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2648. MZT 12:54 AM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2010    
Even leaving aside discussion of model shifts to the west ... extrapolating the current curvature of the models could still be a landfall on Nova Scotia or Labrador.
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2649. dracko19 12:54 AM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2010    
Looks like NHC is more worried about the Carribean than IGOR.

000
NOUS42 KNHC 111530
WEATHER RECONNAISSANCE FLIGHTS
CARCAH, NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER, MIAMI, FL.
1130 AM EDT SAT 11 SEPTEMBER 2010
SUBJECT: TROPICAL CYCLONE PLAN OF THE DAY (TCPOD)
VALID 12/1100Z TO 13/1100Z SEPTEMBER 2010
TCPOD NUMBER.....10-103

I. ATLANTIC REQUIREMENTS
1. SUSPECT AREA (CENTRAL CARIBBEAN)
FLIGHT ONE -- TEAL 70
A. 12/1800Z
B. AFXXX 01EEA INVEST
C. 12/1145Z
D. 15.5N 70.0W
E. 12/1700Z TO 12/2100Z
F. SFC TO 10,000 FT

FLIGHT TWO -- TEAL 71
A. 13/0600,1200Z
B. AFXXX 0212A CYCLONE
C. 13/0400Z
D. 16.2N 74.4W
E. 13/0500Z TO 13/1200Z
F. SFC TO 15,000 FT

2. SUCCEEDING DAY OUTLOOK: CONTINUE 6-HRLY FIXES IF
SYSTEM DEVELOPS.
3. REMARKS: SEVERAL RESEARCH FLIGHTS ARE PLANNED
FOR THE CENTRAL CARIBBEAN SUSPECT AREA.
A. THE NSF/NCAR G-V WILL FLY A 7 HR MISSION BETWEEN
41,000 AND 43,000 FT WITH TAKEOFF AT 12/1100Z.
B. THE NASA GLOBAL HAWK WILL FLY A 24 HR MISSION
ABOVE 58,000 FT WITH TAKEOFF AT 12/1130Z.
C. THE NOAA G-IV WILL FLY AN 8 HR MISSION BETWEEN
41,000 AND 45,000 FT WITH TAKEOFF AT 12/1730Z.
D. THE NASA DC-8 WILL FLY AN 8 HR MISSION BETWEEN
35,000 AND 39,000 FT WITH TAKEOFF AT 12/1800Z.
E. NOAA 43 AND 42 P-3 AIRCRAFT WILL BEGIN A SERIES
OF MISSIONS BETWEEN 7,000 AND 12,000 FT WITH
TAKEOFFS AT 12/2000Z AND 13/0800Z...RESPECTIVELY.

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2650. MiamiHurricanes09 12:54 AM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2010    
At 130kt, Igor is contributing 1.6900 in ACE every 6 hour (complete) advisory. To put it into perspective, that's more than all of what Hermine and Gaston contributed in total.
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2651. weatherwart 12:55 AM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2010    
Quoting traumaboyy:


Where are you listening to the Chief??....Is the BB show on??


Yeah. It's good.
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