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Flooding Continues Along the Rio Grande
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 8:52 AM GMT en Julio 10, 2010 +4
Hi everybody, Dr. Rob Carver filling in for Jeff while he's on vacation.

Things have quieted down in the tropics. No invests are active, and the tropical waves at sea don't have many thunderstorms associated with them. However, the moisture associated with Alex and TD Two is still bring widespread showers to Mexico/Texas which is contributing to flooding alon the Rio Grande. Here are several videos documenting the troubles along the Rio Grande.









Finally, here's a story about relief efforts in northern Mexico for villages cutoff by flood damaged roads and bridges.


Next update
Jeff should be back on Monday. Have a good weekend.
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1151. Levi32 4:01 AM GMT en Julio 11, 2010    
Quoting Levi32:


Lol, oh so then why do the ENE trade winds in the Caribbean come right across Central America and converge more normally into the ITCZ during the winter? Along with the southern hemisphere trade winds which are out of the SE like they could be. They then turn southwesterly during the summer, presumably from the extra heating of the northern South American continent and Central America.

January-February Climatological surface Winds:



July-September Climatological Surface Winds:




Only problem is I'm not seeing much of a difference of temperature between winter and summer over northern South America, and you wouldn't really since it's within 10 degrees of the equator. There's not even much difference in central America. It's only the Caribbean waters which warm up significantly between seasons. Perhaps it is the Caribbean itself which drives the monsoonal flow?

January-February Climatological Temperature:



July-September Climatological Temperature:


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1152. Levi32 4:02 AM GMT en Julio 11, 2010    
Got a loop of respectable length now....5 hours.

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1153. sflawavedude 4:05 AM GMT en Julio 11, 2010    
other than the wave by africa teh tropics have a hole lot of nothin going on for what looks to be a little wihle longer.
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1154. Ossqss 4:06 AM GMT en Julio 11, 2010    
Clickable pic for a larger view.


gnight :)
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1155. JRRP 4:06 AM GMT en Julio 11, 2010    
yo tengo sueño
hasta mañana
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1156. JRRP 4:11 AM GMT en Julio 11, 2010    
Quoting Levi32:
Got a loop of respectable length now....5 hours.


the wave near Ghana has nice rotation
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1157. BahaHurican 4:13 AM GMT en Julio 11, 2010    
While I'm sitting here I'm updating hurricane supply list. I need to check tomorrow, but I'm sure we're out of some of this stuff, particularly sternos (gave away the last ones I had to someone having a cookout). This seems like a particularly appropriate time to ensure my list is up to date...
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1158. Levi32 4:14 AM GMT en Julio 11, 2010    
Quoting JRRP:

the wave near Ghana has nice rotation


Indeed it does....it may be more of a threat than our currently emerging one.
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1159. xcool 4:14 AM GMT en Julio 11, 2010    
pretty impressive right now
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1160. hurricane23 4:15 AM GMT en Julio 11, 2010    
Don't really expect to much from this wave at the moment. Plenty of sinking air and sal nearby.
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1162. BaltOCane 4:17 AM GMT en Julio 11, 2010    
oooh, well that wave looks like it's held up nice since I was last on this afternoon

Levi did you do "TT" for today?
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1163. Grothar 4:19 AM GMT en Julio 11, 2010    
Boring image, but good picture of the wave. Looks healthy.

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1164. xcool 4:20 AM GMT en Julio 11, 2010    
j
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1165. Levi32 4:22 AM GMT en Julio 11, 2010    
Quoting BaltOCane:
oooh, well that wave looks like it's held up nice since I was last on this afternoon

Levi did you do "TT" for today?


No because my body is rebelling and no longer wakes to the alarm, so I slept in until 9:00 again lol. Should have one tomorrow....hopefully. I had this whole thing planned for this morning and then couldn't do it :S
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1166. TexasHurricane 4:24 AM GMT en Julio 11, 2010    
Quoting Grothar:
Boring image, but good picture of the wave. Looks healthy.



Is it me or has this wave barely moved?....
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1167. Levi32 4:26 AM GMT en Julio 11, 2010    
Quoting TexasHurricane:


Is it me or has this wave barely moved?....


It's moving west at 10-15 knots. The convection which has been firing out ahead of it makes it seem like it's slower than that.
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1168. BaltOCane 4:26 AM GMT en Julio 11, 2010    
Quoting Levi32:


No because my body is rebelling and no longer wakes to the alarm, so I slept in until 9:00 again lol. Should have one tomorrow....hopefully. I had this whole thing planned for this morning and then couldn't do it :S


I don't blame you! I ddin't get out of bed till 11:45am.

The "TT"s are very good, so keep up the good work. :)
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1169. Grothar 4:26 AM GMT en Julio 11, 2010    
Quoting xcool:
j


I know you are a man of few words but "J" just isn't going to do it for us. What are you trying to say? LOL
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1170. TexasHurricane 4:27 AM GMT en Julio 11, 2010    
Quoting Levi32:


It's moving west at 10-15 knots. The convection which has been firing out ahead of it makes it seem like it's slower than that.


oh ok.
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1171. Tazmanian 4:27 AM GMT en Julio 11, 2010    
11/0232 UTC 12.9N 134.3E T1.5/1.5 93W -- West Pacific


at last we may have a west pac TD soon
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1172. Grothar 4:27 AM GMT en Julio 11, 2010    
Quoting TexasHurricane:


Is it me or has this wave barely moved?....


Looks like the same position as this morning. It's like watching an NCIS marathon.
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1173. xcool 4:28 AM GMT en Julio 11, 2010    
Grothar i delete my posting just put j
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1174. beell 4:29 AM GMT en Julio 11, 2010    
Geez, we were out of milk again...

Levi @ 1146 and 1148:

I guess it is to what degree you consider a reversal of the winds between NH Summer and Winter. If you exclude the northward shift of the ITCZ there is not much there. Certainly nothing approaching the WPAC and BOB monsoons.

But I can live with calling it a monsoon. I'm convinced, lol.
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1175. Grothar 4:29 AM GMT en Julio 11, 2010    
Quoting Grothar:


Looks like the same position as this morning. It's like watching an NCIS marathon.


No, it is moving. The curvature of the earth sometimes plays jokes on the eyes and the convection is expanding a little.
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1177. Grothar 4:31 AM GMT en Julio 11, 2010    
Quoting xcool:
Grothar i delete my posting just put j


Just fooling with you, xcool. Goodnight everyone.
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1178. TexasHurricane 4:31 AM GMT en Julio 11, 2010    
Just got back on a few minutes ago...is there any reason this wave off of Africa won't develop or should we be seeing a yellow circle pretty soon?
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1179. Levi32 4:31 AM GMT en Julio 11, 2010    
Quoting beell:
Geez, we were out of milk again...

Levi @ 1146 and 1148:

I guess it is to what degree you consider a reversal of the winds between NH Summer and Winter. If you exclude the northward shift of the ITCZ there is not much there. Certainly nothing approaching the WPAC and BOB monsoons.

But I can live with calling it a monsoon. I'm convinced, lol.


Eh, I don't think I'm ok with calling it a "true monsoon" like the Indian and African monsoons, but the distinctly different qualities of this segment of the ITCZ demand a different name to distinguish it from the rest of the ITCZ, so I think monsoon trough fits the bill ok. We should both remember to ask 456....he has a million reasons why it's a real monsoon trough, but I never got to hear them all.

It does share most of the qualities of the west Pacific monsoon trough.
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1180. weatherportricheyfl 4:34 AM GMT en Julio 11, 2010    
hi everyone first time blogger here
i have a feeling we will hear more about this one of the coast now for days to come because of the flare up of thunderstorm near the center and the low pressure movement
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1181. Tazmanian 4:35 AM GMT en Julio 11, 2010    
Quoting btwntx08:
heyyy



there you are have you been on a 24hr banned ?? been some time
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1182. xcool 4:39 AM GMT en Julio 11, 2010    
hey btwntx08:
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1184. Bordonaro 4:40 AM GMT en Julio 11, 2010    
Quoting TexasHurricane:
Just got back on a few minutes ago...is there any reason this wave off of Africa won't develop or should we be seeing a yellow circle pretty soon?

The NHC will wait at least another 24-48 hrs to watch the latest wave as it moves westward off the coast of Africa. They have not even designated it as a tropical wave yet, however they did mention that it is an enhanced area of convergence on the ITCZ, nothing more.

We all are blob or wave watching at the moment as the Tropical Atlantic has gone quiet, at least for the moment :o)!
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1185. Tazmanian 4:41 AM GMT en Julio 11, 2010    
Quoting btwntx08:

nope just took a few days off



we had TD 2 not too long a go
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1186. Bordonaro 4:43 AM GMT en Julio 11, 2010    
Quoting btwntx08:

nope just took a few days off

Bet you are ready for a drying trend. Brownsville has seen about 15" of rain over the last 2 1/2 weeks!
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1187. TexasHurricane 4:43 AM GMT en Julio 11, 2010    
Quoting Bordonaro:

The NHC will wait at least another 24-48 hrs to watch the latest wave as it moves westward off the coast of Africa. They have not even designated it as a tropical wave yet, however they did mention that it is an enhanced area of convergence on the ITCZ, nothing more.

We all are blog or wave watching at the moment as the Tropical Atlantic has gone quiet, at least for the moment :o)!


Thanks...just curious.
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1188. weatherportricheyfl 4:45 AM GMT en Julio 11, 2010    
been on the original 12 hr. one for here when i first got a free membership
do u think that the nhc will put an invest name on it i think within 12-24 hrs
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1190. Levi32 4:47 AM GMT en Julio 11, 2010    
Quoting weatherportricheyfl:
been on the original 12 hr. one for here when i first got a free membership
do u think that the nhc will put an invest name on it i think within 12-24 hrs


I doubt it. They will wait for another 24 hours to see if it sustains this much convection and structure, but chances are that, as with a lot of waves, it won't. The dry air to the north may choke it. If it happens to survive and maintain its current presentation over the next 24 hours, they may label it an invest, but we'll have to wait until then and see how it looks.
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1191. xcool 4:48 AM GMT en Julio 11, 2010    
wave at N CLEAN OUT SAL
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1194. Bordonaro 4:53 AM GMT en Julio 11, 2010    
Quoting weatherportricheyfl:
been on the original 12 hr. one for here when i first got a free membership
do u think that the nhc will put an invest name on it i think within 12-24 hrs

Probably not. This is how they described the area of disturbed weather moving off the W coast of Africa:

...ITCZ...

ITCZ AXIS IS CENTERED ALONG 8N11W 6N20W 9N30W 5N41W 5N54W.
NUMEROUS STRONG CONVECTION IS MOVING OFF W AFRICA WITHIN 90 NM
ALONG THE COAST BETWEEN 9N-12N.
SCATTERED/NUMEROUS STRONG
CONVECTION COVERS THE REMAINDER OF THE AREA FROM 7N-12N E OF 19W
TO INLAND OVER W AFRICA. SCATTERED MODERATE/ISOLATED STRONG
CONVECTION IS FROM 5N-8N BETWEEN 20W-23W AND WITHIN 60 NM ALONG
THE ITCZ FROM 36W-40W

Just need to wait, watch & see what happens, over the next 24-48 hours. There is a large area of SAL (Sahara Air Layer) a dry airmass the blows off the Sahara Desert, loaded with dry air and sand that may snuff the life out of this "wave" moving off Africa. It has been looking very healthy over the last 12-14 hrs.
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1196. Bordonaro 4:57 AM GMT en Julio 11, 2010    
Quoting Baltimorebirds:
You come on this time of night and you would expect the blog to be quite.Oh well.Any way I was just talking about the west pacific being dead.Looks like we could see a storm soon.Also the models are picking up on a strong storm in the east pacific.

Can you hear the crickets chirping and the pin that you just dropped hit the floor?? Just wait till the tropics really heat up, we may end up crashing the WU server (sure hopwe that NEVER happens)!
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1198. xcool 4:58 AM GMT en Julio 11, 2010    
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1199. Bordonaro 5:00 AM GMT en Julio 11, 2010    
Quoting hurrkat05:
conditions are very hostile for anything to develop off the african coast..the dry air is very prevelant and will snuff out all the waves that try to develop..this should last until the end of july then things will calm down..don't look for anything to develop until then..

You may be right, however if one of the emerging waves beats out the SAL, by moving south of the SAL, or by one wave absorbing the blow and another moves off into a moist environment, then we may have a big problem. Not likely, but it is in the realm of possibility.
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1201. TropicalAnalystwx13 5:02 AM GMT en Julio 11, 2010    
Quoting Bordonaro:

You may be right, however if one of the emerging waves beats out the SAL, by moving south of the SAL, or by one wave absorbing the blow and another moves off into a moist environment, then we may have a big problem. Not likely, but it is in the realm of possibility.


What do you mean by not likely? its definitely possible.
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