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Little change to 93L; Brazilian floods kill 42
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 2:18 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2010 +6
There has been little change over the past 24 hours to the tropical wave (Invest 93L) located a few hundred miles south of Haiti. The storm has brought heavy rains to the waters south of Hispaniola, with radar precipitation estimates from the Puerto Rico radar of over six inches of rain in the past day. The heaviest rains have avoided land areas so far. Satellite loops show a very disorganized system, with no low-level spiral bands and only limited heavy thunderstorm activity. There are no signs of a surface circulation visible on satellite imagery. Pressures at the ground stations surrounding the storm (Bahahona and Kingston) are not falling. Water vapor satellite loops show that moist air surrounds 93L, though there is a modest patch of dry air to the storm's southwest. This dry air is likely contributing to the lack of heavy thunderstorms on 93L's west side, slowing development. Wind shear is a low 5 - 15 knots. The high wind shear associated with the strong winds of the subtropical jet stream are over the northern Caribbean, too far north to interfere with development, but close enough to provide good upper-level outflow for the storm. Visible satellite loops show high level cirrus clouds streaming away from 93L to the northeast, evidence of the upper-level outflow channel that is developing to the storm's north. Sea Surface Temperatures are plenty warm, a record 29 - 30°C. The Madden-Julian oscillation (MJO) currently favors upward motion over the Caribbean, which will act to increase the chances of tropical storm formation this week. The main negative for 93L continues to be the lack of spin. The University of Wisconsin 850 mb relative vorticity analysis is showing that spin at 850 mb (roughly 5,000 feet in altitude) has increased over the past day, but 93L needs to acquire additional spin before it can grow more organized. The Hurricane Hunters are on call to investigate 93L Thursday afternoon. Today's flight was canceled, due to 93L's lack of development.


Figure 1. Morning visible satellite image of the central Caribbean disturbance 93L.

Track forecast for 93L
NHC is giving 93L a 30% chance of developing into a tropical depression by Friday morning, which is a reasonable forecast. Given the storm's current lack of spin and relatively modest amount of heavy thunderstorms, the earliest I'd expect 93L to become a tropical depression would be Thursday afternoon, with Friday more likely. Wind shear is expected to be low, less than 10 knots, over the central and western Caribbean this week. Water temperatures will be warm, dry air limited, and the MJO favorable. I don't see any major impediments to the storm becoming a tropical depression by Friday, except for possible interaction with land. There is a low (less than 20% chance) of 93L becoming a hurricane in the Caribbean. Expect 93L to bring flooding rains of 3 - 6 inches to Jamaica, eastern Cuba, and southwestern Haiti today through Thursday. These rains will spread to the Cayman Islands and central Cuba by Thursday through Friday, and western Cuba and Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula on Friday and Saturday. The current run of the SHIPS model has 93L slowing down late this week to a forward speed of just 7 knots (8 mph) from its current speed of about 10 mph, in response to a weakening in the steering currents. A trough of low pressure is expected to swing down over the Eastern U.S. on Monday. If this trough is strong enough and 93L develops significantly, the storm could get pulled northwards and make landfall along the northern Gulf of Mexico coast. This is the solution of the ECMWF, GFDL, and HWRF models. This seems like a likely solution, since recent runs of most of the models have been showing a stronger trough. If 93L stays weak and/or the trough is not so strong, the storm would get pushed west-northwestwards towards the Texas coast. This is the solution of the NOGAPS and Canadian models, which foresee a more westerly track for 93L across the Yucatan Peninsula, with the storm eventually threatening Texas by Monday or Tuesday. The GFS and UKMET models do not develop 93L. A likely landfall location is highly uncertain this point, and the storm could hit virtually anywhere along the Gulf of Mexico coast from South Texas to the Florida Panhandle given the current uncertainty in its development, and the strength of next Monday's trough that may steer 93L northwards.

Intensity forecast for 93L
Forecasting the amount of wind shear in the Gulf of Mexico next week is problematic. There is currently a band of high shear near 30 knots over the Gulf, and most of the models predict that this band of high shear will lift northwards, keeping low wind shear over the Gulf next week. This should allow 93L to intensify to at least a 50 mph tropical storm, as predicted by the HWRF model. The GFDL and ECMWF models are calling for 93L to become a Category 1 or 2 hurricane, and this is certainly a possibility. I expect 93L will become Tropical Storm Alex in the Gulf of Mexico next week, and give a 20% chance that it will become a hurricane.

Elsewhere in the tropics
None of the reliable computer models is calling for tropical cyclone formation in the Atlantic over the next seven days.


Figure 2. Total accumulated precipitation in millimeters (left) for the 7-day period ending at 8am EDT June 21, 2010. The yellow colors (200+ mm, 8+ inches) are where extreme flooding was observed. Satellite image from NASA's MODIS instrument (right) for June 17, 2010, showing heavy thunderstorms over the Alagoas state of Brazil. Image credit: NASA and NOAA Climate Prediction Service.

Floods in Brazil kill dozens
Heavy rains over the past week in the northeast state of Alagoas in Brazil have led to major flooding that has killed at least 42 people. Six hundred people are still missing. This weekend rains in Alagoas and Pernambuco states are the latest in a series of devastating floods to strike Brazil this year. Since the start of Brazil's rainy season last November, 488 people have been killed by flooding and 7.5 million have been affected in 10 states. Much of the heavy rains can be blamed on El Niño, which ended in May. In April, flooding and landslides triggered by torrential rain killed at least 229 people and did $13.3 billion in damage in the Rio de Janeiro area.

It's been a bad year for floods, and there are two other major flooding disasters that have occurred in the past week. In China, the death toll has risen to 211 people, with 119 people missing, because of flooding in the southern portion of the country. France suffered a flash flood last week that killed 25.

Wind and ocean current forecast for the BP oil disaster
East to southeast winds of 10 - 15 knots will blow in the northern Gulf of Mexico today through Sunday, according to the latest marine forecast from NOAA. The resulting weak ocean currents should push the oil to the west and northwest onto portions of the Louisiana and Alabama coasts, according to the latest trajectory forecasts from NOAA and the State of Louisiana. I would expect Mississippi to have its most serious threat of oil yet early next week as these winds continue. The longer range outlook is uncertain, and will depend upon what 93L does.

Resources for the BP oil disaster
My post, What a hurricane would do the Deepwater Horizon oil spill
My post on the Southwest Florida "Forbidden Zone" where surface oil will rarely go
My post on what oil might do to a hurricane
NOAA's interactive mapping tool allows one to overlay wind and ocean current forecasts, oil locations, etc.
Gulf Oil Blog from the UGA Department of Marine Sciences
Oil Spill Academic Task Force
University of South Florida Ocean Circulation Group oil spill forecasts
ROFFS Deepwater Horizon page
Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR) imagery from the University of Miami

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451. txag91met 5:31 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2010    
Quoting ryang:

Nothing to see there...
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452. RyanFSU 5:32 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2010    
GFDL 12Z is weaker and to the left of the previous forecast:

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453. Levi32 5:33 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2010    
Quoting F4PHANTOM:
Levi,if a low forms where you think it possible could ; more N&E would this have an impact on the track models?


If the mid-level center pulls in the surface feature or forms a new low-level center, it could alter the model forecasts to the north and east if they are forced to initialize more NE of where 93L's current center is. However, if the two do become vertically stacked, it may not be for a while, so chances are the model forecasts will remain the same for at least the next few runs. Until the system has a very defined center, if it ever acquires one, the intensity and track forecasts from the models cannot be taken too seriously. This is a complex situation and there is more going on here than just one little vort max. It is much bigger than that with competing features within a massive area of building heat. It may not come out the way the computers think right now.
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454. Neapolitan 5:33 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2010    
Quoting gator23:


Dont you mean in waves


No. Droves. "A moving crowd"
Quoting BFG308:



Looks like motor oil. And BS.

For a hydrocarbon to rain in a large amount...you'd see it in more places than some guy's driveway. It'd also need similar thermodynamic properties as water...and if that's the case most of it probably is still dissolved in 5000+ feet of ocean it had to get through.


Probably a BS video. But with the multiple fires intentionally set to burn off crude that's on the surface, there's every chance that unburnt oil particulates rising with the ash cloud, being taken into a cloud, and falling as/with precipitation. Just look what happened in the Gulf War. This, too.
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455. CaneWarning 5:35 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2010    
Quoting Patrap:
The President has booted Gen. McChrystal.


Adios... OBAMA HAS RELIEVED GEN. MCCHRYSTAL OF HIS DUTIES


Now that's just wrong... Politics as usual.
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456. atmoaggie 5:36 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2010    
Quoting RyanFSU:
GFDL 12Z is weaker and to the left of the previous forecast:


hi Ryan.

Well, the 06 Z developed 93L so much beyond it's current status in the first 12 hours of that run...
I think we can really start putting a little more stock into the model results when they fairly accurately represent the system for the first 6 hours . Before then...ehh, it's a WAG.

Cannot access it yet, what does the 12 Z GFDL say about 6 hour forecast...18 Z today (almost now) ?
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457. WatchingThisOne 5:36 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2010    
I guess now we know what an oil volcano looks like ... so far. Live video as of time of this posting can be found at this MSNBC link

They also had an ROV down on the deck, well below the top of the BOP, nosing around and encountering what looked like quite a bit of oil emerging from the seabed. That video got a kill shot.

WTO
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458. CaneWarning 5:36 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2010    
Quoting ElConando:


I believe there is an e at the end of that word in British English.


Yes, but those using it here are not British.
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459. helove2trac 5:36 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2010    
i dont think 93L will ever get its act together jmo
460. helove2trac 5:38 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2010    
Quoting wunderkidcayman:


I KNOW I CAN, I KNOW I CAN, I KNOW I CAN



I know I can do what? roflmao
462. RyanFSU 5:39 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2010    
GFDL and HWRF are different animals based upon their initializations, which both have significant problems. I'd go with the ECMWF deterministic model which runs globally at the resolution of GFDL/HWRF. It is far far superior in terms of forecast skill in the grand scheme of things, but for TC genesis and intensity, still a work in progress.
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463. xcool 5:39 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2010    
developments are going to be SLOW.soon get to 80w game on.
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464. Floodman 5:39 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2010    
Quoting CaneWarning:


My pet peeve is when people add a letter e to the end of the word develop. :)


It's pronounced "developay"...LOL

Most of us bourgeoisie peons wouldn't recognize that word
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466. BFG308 5:40 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2010    
Quoting Neapolitan:


No. Droves. "A moving crowd"

Probably a BS video. But with the multiple fires intentionally set to burn off crude that's on the surface, there's every chance that unburnt oil particulates rising with the ash cloud, being taken into a cloud, and falling as/with precipitation. Just look what happened in the Gulf War. This, too.


I don't disagree at all. Incomplete combustion particles (soot) don't cause rainbow sheens though!
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467. Floodman 5:42 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2010    
Quoting RyanFSU:
GFDL and HWRF are different animals based upon their initializations, which both have significant problems. I'd go with the ECMWF deterministic model which runs globally at the resolution of GFDL/HWRF. It is far far superior in terms of forecast skill in the grand scheme of things, but for TC genesis and intensity, still a work in progress.


As far as cyclogenesis, they're all still works in progress; what's really hurting here is location for initilaization; as someone here noted yesterday, it's a matter of GIGO
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468. Patrap 5:42 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2010    
We kept the English Language mostly here in Se La,to a extent..but we whooped the British Proper First.
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469. Levi32 5:43 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2010    
Quoting RyanFSU:
GFDL and HWRF are different animals based upon their initializations, which both have significant problems. I'd go with the ECMWF deterministic model which runs globally at the resolution of GFDL/HWRF. It is far far superior in terms of forecast skill in the grand scheme of things, but for TC genesis and intensity, still a work in progress.


I would agree with that.

It is a pleasure to have you on here, by the way.
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470. helove2trac 5:44 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2010    
so ts this weekend?
473. HurricaneSwirl 5:45 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2010    
Quoting xcool:






for all down cast


Man I knew this before but I forgot already. What is 3 PM UTC/Z in EDT and EST?
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474. Hurricanes101 5:45 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2010    
sorry Baltimore, what was your question?
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475. atmoaggie 5:45 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2010    
Nevermind, finally, got the plots.

6 hour GFDL forecast, valid for minutes from now:

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476. photonchaser 5:46 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2010    
does anyone have a loop on darby or celia?
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477. NOLABean 5:46 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2010    
I wish people would stop with the oil-rain video. I have no doubt that chemicals or particulates may be coming in from the evaporating oil or dispersant, but for goodness sake, that video was shot of puddles on a street near trucks, boats and driveways! I'm thinking people need to wait until someone does a clean catch, rather than have the public freak out over a video of a bunch of puddles. Believe me, I'm definitely one to pile on to BP, but that video has no factual value whatsoever, IMO.

And Patrap, I think you're right about BP's Hurricane Response Plan and I'm sure if it includes taking care of all of our walruses and sea otters and has been signed off on by a dead guy like their Spill Response Plan, we should be juuuust fine ;)
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478. wunderkidcayman 5:46 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2010    
I can see a very good spin at 17.5N 78.5W movement WNW os the Infrared Channel 2 Loop

but I think the main center is near either at 15.5N 75.3W or at 16.2N 76.8W

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479. CaneWarning 5:46 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2010    
Quoting Levi32:


I would agree with that.

It is a pleasure to have you on here, by the way.


It certainly is.
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480. Floodman 5:46 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2010    
Quoting CaneWarning:


Now that's just wrong... Politics as usual.


What would have happened to a Lieutenant or a Captain that criticized McChrystal? He'd be in the Aleutians about now...it's all relative and soldiers know that politics is part of the job. Talk bad about the boss behind closed doors, fine, but bad rap him in public and lose your job...PERIOD
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482. xcool 5:47 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2010    
HurricaneSwirl ?
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483. seajunkie 5:47 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2010    
Levi,

Your Tropical Tidbit Rocks!!! Don't let anyone give you any guff about your pink cursor.

Great presentation.

Dave
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485. Patrap 5:48 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2010    
BP..

Buffoons Perfected
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486. xcool 5:48 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2010    
developments are going to be SLOW.soon get to 80w game on.
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487. ATL 5:48 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2010    
Quoting StSimonsIslandGAGuy:
So what do knowledgeable people think about 93L?

The NHC will be right with you
488. Hurricanes101 5:48 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2010    
Quoting wunderkidcayman:
I can see a very good spin at 17.5N 78.5W movement WNW os the Infrared Channel 2 Loop

but I think the main center is near either at 15.5N 75.3W or at 16.2N 76.8W



there is the problem, there are about 14 different places where the center could be lol

too much fighting in the Caribbean, which is why we arent seeing any development
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490. bappit 5:49 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2010    
Quoting TankHead93:
Personally, for me, this is not gradual development. More like very SLOW for me, lol.


With the probabilities from NHC going down, development does not seem like the correct word.
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492. Levi32 5:49 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2010    
Quoting seajunkie:
Levi,

Your Tropical Tidbit Rocks!!! Don't let anyone give you any guff about your pink cursor.

Great presentation.

Dave


Thank you :)
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493. Hurricanes101 5:49 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2010    
Quoting bappit:


With the probabilities from NHC going down, development does not seem like the correct word.


who said they were going down? last I saw they raised it from 20% to 30%
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494. Patrap 5:49 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2010    
I think the intensity Guidance timeline has been right all along.

We wont see much for another 36 or so.



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496. Levi32 5:50 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2010    
Quoting atmoaggie:
Nevermind, finally, got the plots.

6 hour GFDL forecast, valid for minutes from now:



Yeah....definitely not a great initialization.
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497. smmcdavid 5:50 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2010    
Quoting StSimonsIslandGAGuy:
So what do knowledgeable people think about 93L?


First task... find said "knowledgeable people". Good luck. :p
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498. helove2trac 5:50 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2010    
have the hh hunters canceled their flight?
499. CybrTeddy 5:51 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2010    
Sticking at 30% for 93L.
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500. xcool 5:51 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2010    
at 30%
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501. Patrap 5:51 PM GMT en Junio 23, 2010    
. THE RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT
SCHEDULED TO INVESTIGATE THIS SYSTEM TODAY WAS CANCELED DUE TO LACK
OF ORGANIZATION OF THIS DISTURBANCE.
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