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Unusually well-organized 92L disturbance may become a tropical depression
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 2:14 PM GMT en Junio 14, 2010 +3
Invest 92L, a remarkably well-developed African tropical wave for so early in the season, is midway between Africa and the Lesser Antilles Islands. Infrared satellite loops show a modest area of heavy thunderstorms along the north side of 92L's center of circulation, and the storm's heavy thunderstorms activity appears to be slowly increasing in intensity and areal coverage. Upper-level outflow is apparent to the west and north of 92L, and the outflow has been gradually improving this morning. Visible satellite loops do not show much in the way of low-level spiral bands, and my current take from the satellite imagery is that 92L is slowly organizing, and will not become a tropical depression any earlier than 11pm EDT tonight (Monday.) A 4:27 am EDT pass from the WINDSAT satellite saw a partially closed circulation at the surface (open on the south side), with top surface winds of 25 - 30 mph north of the center.


Figure 1. Morning satellite image of Invest 92L (left side of image) and a vigorous new tropical wave that has moved off the coast of Africa (right side.) None of models develop the new tropical wave, but it bears watching.

Sea surface temperatures
Climatology argues against development of 92L, since only one named storm has ever formed between Africa and the Lesser Antilles Islands in the month of June--Tropical Storm Ana of 1979 (Figure 2). However, sea surface temperatures (SSTs) underneath 92L are an extremely high 28°C, and will increase to 29°C by Thursday. In fact, with summer not even here, and three more months of heating remaining until we reach peak SSTs in the Atlantic, ocean temperatures across the entire Caribbean and waters between Africa and the Lesser Antilles are about the same as they were during the peak week for water temperatures in 2009 (mid-September.)

Dry air not a problem for 92L until Wednesday
The disturbance doesn't have to worry about dry air today or Tuesday--Total Precipitable Water (TPW) loops show a very moist plume of air accompanies 92L, and water vapor satellite loops show that the center of 92L is at least 200 - 300 miles from any substantial areas of dry air. As 92L continues to push northwest, though, the SHIPS model is predicting that relative humidity at middle levels of the atmosphere will fall from the current value of about 70%, to 60% on Wednesday. This dry air may begin to cause problems for 92L on Wednesday, especially since wind shear will be increasing at the same time. Tropical cyclones are more vulnerable to dry air when there is substantial wind shear, since the strong winds causing the shear are able to inject the dry air deep into the core of the storm.

Madden-Julian Oscillation
The 60-day cycle of enhanced thunderstorm activity called the Madden-Julian Oscillation is currently favoring upward motion over eastern tropical Atlantic, and this enhanced upward motion helps create stronger updrafts and higher chances of tropical cyclone development.


Figure 2. Tropical Storm Ana of 1979 was the only June named storm on record to form between Africa and the Lesser Antilles Islands.

Wind shear
A major issue for 92L, like it is for most June disturbances, is wind shear. The subtropical jet stream has a branch flowing through the Caribbean and tropical Atlantic north of 10° N that is bringing 20 - 40 knots of wind shear to the region. Our disturbance was located near 10°N, 40°W at 8am EDT this morning, a few hundred miles south of this band of high shear, and is currently only experiencing 5 - 10 knots of shear. This low amount of shear should allow for some steady development of 92L over the next two days as it tracks west-northwest or northwest at 15 mph. The latest run of the SHIPS model is predicting the shear will rise to 20 knots on Wednesday, which may start to cause problems for 92L.

The forecast for 92L
The National Hurricane Center is giving 92L a high (60% chance) of developing into a tropical depression by Wednesday morning, which is a reasonable forecast. The odds of development have increased since yesterday, as the storm has moved considerably to the northwest, away from the Equator. Now it can leverage the Earth's spin to a much greater degree to help get it get spinning. It is quite unusual for a tropical depression to form south of 8°N latitude.

I expect that 92L's best chance to become a tropical depression will come on Tuesday, and the storm could strengthen enough by Wednesday to be named Tropical Storm Alex. The farther south 92L stays, the better chance it has at survival. With the system's steady west-northwest movement this week, 92L will probably begin encountering hostile wind shear in excess of 20 knots by Wednesday, which should interfere with continued development. Several of our reliable models do develop 92L into a tropical storm with 40 - 55 mph winds, but all of the models foresee weakening by Thursday or Friday as 92L approaches the Lesser Antilles Islands and encounters high shear and dry air. I doubt 92L will be anything stronger than a 45 mph tropical storm when it moves through the northern Lesser Antilles Islands on Friday and Saturday, and it would be no surprise if wind shear has destroyed the storm by then. However, as usual, surprises can happen, and the GFS and the SHIPS model (which is based upon the GFS) do indicate that more modest levels of wind shear in the 15 - 20 mph range late this week may allow 92L to stay stronger than I'm expecting. Residents of the islands--particularly the northern Lesser Antilles--should follow the progress of 92L closely, and anticipate heavy rains and high winds moving through the islands as early as Thursday night.

Oil spill wind forecast
There is little change to the oil spill wind forecast for the coming two weeks. Light winds of 5 - 10 knots mostly out of the south or southeast will blow in the northern Gulf of Mexico all week, according to the latest marine forecast from NOAA. These winds will keep oil near the coast of Louisiana, Alabama, Mississippi, and the extreme western Florida Panhandle, according to the latest trajectory forecasts from NOAA and the State of Louisiana. The long range 8 - 16 day forecast from the GFS model indicates a typical summertime light wind regime, with winds mostly blowing out of the south or southeast. This wind regime will likely keep oil close to the coastal areas that have already seen oil impacts over the past two weeks.

Jeff Masters
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1251. IKE 9:43 PM GMT en Junio 14, 2010    
SYNOPSIS FOR CARIBBEAN SEA AND TROPICAL N ATLC FROM 07N TO 22N
BETWEEN 55W AND 65W
530 PM EDT MON JUN 14 2010

.SYNOPSIS...A TROPICAL WAVE S OF 16N ALONG 84W WILL MOVE W
THROUGH THE GULF OF HONDURAS TUE. ANOTHER TROPICAL WAVE E OF THE
AREA S OF 17N ALONG 52W WILL REACH ALONG 56W TUE...ENTER THE E
CARIBBEAN WED...AND CONTINUE TO ALONG 75W FRI...AND 80W SAT. A
TROUGH WILL MOVE W TO ALONG 55W THU...ALONG 60W FRI...AND 65W
SAT.

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1252. wfyweather 9:44 PM GMT en Junio 14, 2010    
Quoting scott39:
Wouldnt that be 92L in 90hours?


Yes. Appears so... its actually 144 hrs out but followed it, it is 92L

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1255. atmoaggie 9:45 PM GMT en Junio 14, 2010    
Quoting Levi32:


It couldn't have been shallow water or we would have already broken that record today in the northern gulf, which seems unlikely.

Where?

Not 42040. In 500+ feet of water...by shallow, I mean 30 feet, or less.
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1256. IKE 9:45 PM GMT en Junio 14, 2010    
SYNOPSIS FOR THE GULF OF MEXICO
430 PM CDT MON JUN 14 2010

.SYNOPSIS...THE NORTHERN EXTENSION OF A TROPICAL WAVE WILL MOVE
THROUGH THE BAY OF CAMPECHE TONIGHT. A SECOND TROPICAL WAVE WILL
MOVE THROUGH THE BAY OF CAMPECHE WED NIGHT THROUGH THU NIGHT.
HIGH PRES OVER THE THE N CENTRAL WATERS WILL BECOME ABSORBED IN
ATLC RIDGING ACROSS THE NORTHERN GULF ON TUE AND CONTINUE
THROUGH SAT.

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1257. IKE 9:45 PM GMT en Junio 14, 2010    
Quoting DestinJeff:
Will see if that precipatable water can wrap around ... sure a bunch there. 92L looks to be offering a censored obscene gesture to the Carribbean...


LOL.
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1258. wfyweather 9:46 PM GMT en Junio 14, 2010    
Quoting DestinJeff:
Will see if that precipatable water can wrap around ... sure a bunch there. 92L looks to be offering a censored obscene gesture to the Carribbean...


LOL
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1259. Drakoen 9:46 PM GMT en Junio 14, 2010    
92L still has around a 50% chance of development. I'd like to see how it dies over warm waters with greater depth.
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1261. Drakoen 9:47 PM GMT en Junio 14, 2010    
Quoting DestinJeff:
Will see if that precipatable water can wrap around ... sure a bunch there. 92L looks to be offering a censored obscene gesture to the Carribbean...


LOL!!!
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1262. AllStar17 9:47 PM GMT en Junio 14, 2010    
Quoting Drakoen:
92L still has around a 50% chance of development. I'd like to see how it dies over warm waters with greater depth.


Yeah. Plus, the weaker it stays, the more west it will go, into the Caribbean and a more favorable environment.
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1263. CaneWarning 9:48 PM GMT en Junio 14, 2010    
Tampa met Denis Philips just said that he's not worried about 92L because of shear.
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1264. wfyweather 9:48 PM GMT en Junio 14, 2010    
Convection starting to fire near the coc. right now, its still in favorable conditions, and I have to bet that the nhc might up probabilities again with the 8.

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1265. Levi32 9:48 PM GMT en Junio 14, 2010    
Quoting atmoaggie:

Where?

Not 42040. In 500+ feet of water...by shallow, I mean 30 feet, or less.


Well 42040 looks a little high to me....especially with the massive SST swings between day and night.


Wiki doesn't give any specific information, just the cited links I gave you. I tried googling it for the world's highest ocean temperature recorded but with no luck so far.
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1266. IKE 9:49 PM GMT en Junio 14, 2010    
Quoting Baltimorebirds:
The modles are all picking upon a cyclone forming in the east pacific.Why are people ignoring this??


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1267. Levi32 9:49 PM GMT en Junio 14, 2010    
Quoting Drakoen:
92L still has around a 50% chance of development. I'd like to see how it dies over warm waters with greater depth.


Lol....worst typo you could have done :P
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1268. scott39 9:49 PM GMT en Junio 14, 2010    
Quoting DestinJeff:
Will see if that precipatable water can wrap around ... sure a bunch there. 92L looks to be offering a censored obscene gesture to the Carribbean...
LMAO
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1269. taco2me61 9:49 PM GMT en Junio 14, 2010    
Quoting Baltimorebirds:
The modles are all picking upon a cyclone forming in the east pacific.Why are people ignoring this??

Because it is the East Pacific.... it too is 92L
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1270. stormy2008 9:49 PM GMT en Junio 14, 2010    
Quoting Baltimorebirds:
The modles are all picking upon a cyclone forming in the east pacific.Why are people ignoring this??


Because most of us don't live there.
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1272. kmanislander 9:50 PM GMT en Junio 14, 2010    
Good afternoon

92L has to regroup and rebuild if it is to survive. Not dead but currently on life support.
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1273. wfyweather 9:50 PM GMT en Junio 14, 2010    
Quoting stormy2008:


Because most of us don't live there.


Not only that.... but most epac systems go out to sea.
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1275. IKE 9:52 PM GMT en Junio 14, 2010    
Help needed...quickly...

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1276. java162 9:52 PM GMT en Junio 14, 2010    
Quoting kmanislander:
Good afternoon

92L has to regroup and rebuild if it is to survive. Not dead but currently on life support.


i guess the gfs was correct after all!!!
wonder what all its critics say now>????
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1277. MiamiHurricanes09 9:52 PM GMT en Junio 14, 2010    
Quoting Baltimorebirds:
The modles are all picking upon a cyclone forming in the east pacific.Why are people ignoring this??
Because 95% of all cyclones that develop go out to sea and are useless to follow.
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1278. clwstmchasr 9:52 PM GMT en Junio 14, 2010    
Quoting Baltimorebirds:
The modles are all picking upon a cyclone forming in the east pacific.Why are people ignoring this??


Don't care.
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1279. scott39 9:53 PM GMT en Junio 14, 2010    
Quoting wfyweather:


Yes. Appears so... its actually 144 hrs out but followed it, it is 92L

Doesnt the ECMWF forecast the best long range models on developement?
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1281. IKE 9:54 PM GMT en Junio 14, 2010    
Quoting WinterAnalystwx13:
At 8 PM, what will the NHC probabilities be?
NO OTHER LETTERS,NUMBERS,ETC!!!

a. Less than 20%
b. 20-30%
c. 40% - 50%
d. 60 - 70%
e. 80-90%


B.
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1282. MiamiHurricanes09 9:54 PM GMT en Junio 14, 2010    
Quoting WinterAnalystwx13:
At 8 PM, what will the NHC probabilities be?
NO OTHER LETTERS,NUMBERS,ETC!!!

a. Less than 20%
b. 20-30%
c. 40% - 50%
d. 60 - 70%
e. 80-90%
B
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1283. JRRP 9:54 PM GMT en Junio 14, 2010    
Quoting java162:


i guess the gfs was correct after all!!!
wonder what all its critics say now>????


i still think that it has a chance
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1284. CaneWarning 9:55 PM GMT en Junio 14, 2010    
Quoting WinterAnalystwx13:
At 8 PM, what will the NHC probabilities be?
NO OTHER LETTERS,NUMBERS,ETC!!!

a. Less than 20%
b. 20-30%
c. 40% - 50%
d. 60 - 70%
e. 80-90%


1500, L
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1286. ElConando 9:55 PM GMT en Junio 14, 2010    
I'd say stay the same.
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1287. kmanislander 9:55 PM GMT en Junio 14, 2010    
Quoting java162:


i guess the gfs was correct after all!!!
wonder what all its critics say now>????


Models are like bloggers. Sometimes they get it right, others times they don't.
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1288. MiamiHurricanes09 9:56 PM GMT en Junio 14, 2010    
Quoting CaneWarning:


1500, L
LOL!
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1289. taco2me61 9:56 PM GMT en Junio 14, 2010    
Quoting WinterAnalystwx13:
At 8 PM, what will the NHC probabilities be?
NO OTHER LETTERS,NUMBERS,ETC!!!

a. Less than 20%
b. 20-30%
c. 40% - 50%
d. 60 - 70%
e. 80-90%

C for me

Taco :o)
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1290. scott39 9:56 PM GMT en Junio 14, 2010    
Quoting WinterAnalystwx13:
At 8 PM, what will the NHC probabilities be?
NO OTHER LETTERS,NUMBERS,ETC!!!

a. Less than 20%
b. 20-30%
c. 40% - 50%
d. 60 - 70%
e. 80-90%
c
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1292. Orcasystems 9:56 PM GMT en Junio 14, 2010    

Not much there... but it looks pretty :)
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1293. wfyweather 9:56 PM GMT en Junio 14, 2010    

Quoting WinterAnalystwx13:
At 8 PM, what will the NHC probabilities be?
NO OTHER LETTERS,NUMBERS,ETC!!!

a. Less than 20%
b. 20-30%
c. 40% - 50%
d. 60 - 70%
e. 80-90%


c
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1294. HadesGodWyvern 9:57 PM GMT en Junio 14, 2010    
probably still be "orange" at 0:00 AM UTC.
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1295. atmoaggie 9:57 PM GMT en Junio 14, 2010    
99% chance that polls and responses will get the iggy treatment soonest.
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1296. CybrTeddy 9:57 PM GMT en Junio 14, 2010    
African Wave might get mentioned, the one Dr. masters mentioned. Personally I believe that it has a better chance than 92L.
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1297. Caribbeanislands101 9:57 PM GMT en Junio 14, 2010    
have good one ever one,
Will see what happens with the invest over night
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1298. SouthALWX 9:58 PM GMT en Junio 14, 2010    
Quoting Levi32:


Well 42040 looks a little high to me....especially with the massive SST swings between day and night.


Wiki doesn't give any specific information, just the cited links I gave you. I tried googling it for the world's highest ocean temperature recorded but with no luck so far.

try looking for averages during peak heating months of the specific basins you expect to hold the record (Indian) You might stumble across the record or atleast get an idea of what is "normal" and therfor what is likely to have been a range of maximum temps. I imagine 95F could be a few degrees too low for a record.
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1299. wfyweather 9:58 PM GMT en Junio 14, 2010    
the wave behind 92L is lookin mighty fine! consolidating into possible a low and exhibiting good outflow
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1301. mrsalagranny 9:59 PM GMT en Junio 14, 2010    
Quoting JRRP:

wait until tomorrow
i still think that it has a chance
According to the WC update he said we shouldnt discount it (92L) just yet.He said that tonight will tell if it will fire up convection and strengthen again.Sorry I keep referring to he.I cant remember his name.
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