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CSU predicts highly active hurricane season; Cyclone Phet approaching Oman
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 2:00 PM GMT en Junio 03, 2010 +4
A very active Atlantic hurricane season is on tap for 2010, according to the seasonal hurricane forecast issued June 2 by Dr. Phil Klotzbach and Dr. Bill Gray of Colorado State University (CSU). The CSU team is calling for 18 named storms, 10 hurricanes, and 5 intense hurricanes, and an Accumulated Cyclone Energy (ACE) 185% of average. Between 1950 - 2000, the average season had 10 named storms, 6 hurricanes, and 2 intense hurricanes. But since 1995, the beginning of an active hurricane period in the Atlantic, we've averaged 14 named storms, 8 hurricanes, and 4 intense hurricanes per year. The new forecast is a step up from their April forecast, which called for 15 named storms, 8 hurricanes, and 4 intense hurricanes. The new forecast calls for a much above-average chance of a major hurricane hitting the U.S., both along the East Coast (51% chance, 31% chance is average) and the Gulf Coast (50% chance, 30% chance is average). The risk of a major hurricane in the Caribbean is also high, at 65% (42% is average.) This is the most aggressive early June forecast ever issued by the CSU group; the previous most aggressive such forecasts were for the 2006 and 2007 seasons, when the CSU team predicted 17 named storms, 9 hurricanes, and 5 intense hurricanes. Both of these forecasts did poorly, particularly the 2006 forecast, as only 10 named storms, 5 hurricanes, and 2 intense hurricanes were observed.

The forecasters cited four main reasons for an active season:

1) Weak La Niña conditions should develop by the most active portion of this year's hurricane season (August-October). The expected trend towards weak La Niña conditions should lead to reduced levels of vertical wind shear compared with what was witnessed in 2009.

2) Current SST anomalies are running at near-record warm levels. These very warm waters are associated with dynamic and thermodynamic factors that are very conducive for an active Atlantic hurricane season.

3) A weaker-than-normal Azores High prevailed during April-May. Weaker high pressure typically results in weaker trade winds that are commonly associated with more active hurricane seasons.

4) We are in the midst of a multi-decadal era of major hurricane activity, which began in 1995. Major hurricanes cause 80-85 percent of normalized hurricane damage.

Analogue years
The CSU team picked four previous years when atmospheric and oceanic conditions were similar to what we are seeing this year: weak El Niño to neutral conditions, well above-average tropical Atlantic SSTs, and above-average far North Atlantic SSTs during April - May. Those four years were 2005, the worst hurricane season of all time; 1969, the 3rd worst hurricane season of all time, featuring Category 5 Hurricane Camille which hit Mississippi; 1966, a relatively average year that featured Category 4 Inez that killed 1,000 people in Haiti; and 1958, a severe season with 5 major hurricanes. The mean activity for these five years was 17 named storms, 10 hurricanes, and 5 intense hurricanes, almost the same as the 2009 CSU forecast.

How accurate are the June forecasts?
The June forecasts by the CSU team over the past 12 years have had a skill 19% - 30% higher than a "no-skill" climatology forecast for number of named storms, number of hurricanes, and the ACE index (Figure 1). This is a decent amount of skill for a seasonal forecast, and these June forecasts can be useful to businesses such as the insurance industry and oil and gas industry that need to make bets on how active the coming hurricane season will be. Unfortunately, the CSU June 1 forecasts do poorly at forecasting the number of major hurricanes (only 3% skill), and major hurricanes are what do 80 - 85% of all hurricane damage (normalized to current population and wealth levels.) This year's June forecast uses the same formula as the past two years, which did quite well predicting the 2008 hurricane season (prediction: 15 named storms, 8 hurricanes, 4 intense hurricanes; observed: 16 named storms, 8 hurricanes, 5 intense hurricanes) and 2009 hurricane season (prediction: 11 named storms, 5 hurricanes, 2 intense hurricanes; observed: 9 named storms, 3 hurricanes, 2 intense hurricanes.) An Excel spreadsheet of their forecast skill (expressed as a mathematical correlation coefficient) show values from 0.44 to 0.58 for their June forecasts, which is respectable.


Figure 1. Comparison of the percent improvement over climatology for May and August seasonal hurricane forecasts for the Atlantic from NOAA, CSU and TSR from 1999-2009 (May) and 1998-2009 (August), using the Mean Squared Error. The British firm Tropical Storm Risk (TSR) will issue their outlook for the 2010 Atlantic hurricane season on June 4. Image credit: Verification of 12 years of NOAA seasonal hurricane forecasts, National Hurricane Center.

NOAA's 2010 hurricane season forecast
NOAA issued their forecast for the upcoming Atlantic hurricane season last week. As I discussed in my post on their forecast, NOAA is calling for very active and possibly hyperactive season. They give an 85% chance of an above-normal season, a 10% chance of a near-normal season, and just a 5% chance of a below-normal season. NOAA predicts a 70% chance that there will be 14 - 23 named storms, 8 - 14 hurricanes, and 3 - 7 major hurricanes, with an Accumulated Cyclone Energy (ACE) in the 155% - 270% of normal range. If we take the midpoint of these numbers, NOAA is calling for 18.5 named storms, 11 hurricanes, 5 major hurricanes, and an ACE index 210% of normal. A season with an ACE index over 175% is considered "hyperactive."


Figure 2. Visible satellite image of Tropical Cyclone Phet on Thursday, June 3, 2010.

Tropical Cyclone Phet the 2nd strongest Arabian Sea storm on record
Record heat over southern Asia in May has helped heat up the Arabian Sea to 2°C above normal, and the exceptionally warm SSTs helped fuel Tropical Cyclone Phet into the second strongest tropical cyclone ever recorded in the Arabian Sea. Phet peaked at Category 4 strength with 145 mph winds yesterday, and has weakened slightly to 135 mph winds this morning. Only Category 5 Cyclone Gonu of 2007, which devastated Oman, was a stronger Arabian Sea cyclone.

Phet is over very warm waters of 30 - 31°C, and is under moderate wind shear of 10 - 20 knots. However, the storm is wrapping in dry air from the Arabian Peninsula, which has caused weakening. Visible satellite imagery from this morning (Figure 2) shows that the heavy thunderstorms on the north side of Phet have been eroded away by dry air. Phet is a small storm, and could fall apart fairly quickly if dry air can penetrate into its core. This should happen later today, since wind shear is on the increase, and the shearing winds should be able to disrupt the circulation enough that dry air can force its way into Phet's eyewall. Phet is fairly small, will miss the most heavily populated areas of Oman, and will likely undergo significant weakening before landfall, so the storm is unlikely to cause the kind of catastrophic flooding that Category 5 Cyclone Gonu of 2007 brought to Oman. Gonu killed 50 people and did $4.2 billion in damage. Phet's heaviest rains will be confined to a relatively sparsely populated region of Oman's coast. Rainfall amounts in excess of 6 inches in 18 hours (Figure 3) can be expected along Oman's coast today, which will likely cause extreme flooding.

After Phet's encounter with Oman, the storm will probably be at tropical storm strength when it makes its second landfall in Pakistan. Heavy rains from Phet will be the major danger for Pakistan, and serious flooding can be expected over southern Pakistan.


Figure 3. Forecast rain amounts for the 18-hour period ending at 2am EDT June 3, 2010. Image credit: NOAA/NESDIS.

Oil spill update
Onshore winds out of the south, southwest, or west are expected to blow over the northern Gulf of Mexico over most of the next week, resulting increased threats of oil to Alabama, Mississippi, and the Florida Panhandle, according to the latest trajectory forecasts from the State of Louisiana. The latest ocean current forecasts from the NOAA HYCOM model show that these winds will generate a 0.5 - 1 mph current flowing from west to east along the Florida Panhandle coast Sunday and Monday. If this current develops as predicted, it will be capable of bringing light amounts of oil as far east as Fort Walton Beach, Florida, by Monday. If you spot oil, send in your report to http://www.gulfcoastspill.com/, whose mission is to help the Gulf Coast recovery by creating a daily record of the oil spill.

Oil spill resources
My post, What a hurricane would do the Deepwater Horizon oil spill
My post Wednesday with answers to some of the common questions I get about the spill
My post on the Southwest Florida "Forbidden Zone" where surface oil will rarely go
My post on what oil might do to a hurricane
Gulf Oil Blog from the UGA Department of Marine Sciences
Oil Spill Academic Task Force
University of South Florida Ocean Circulation Group oil spill forecasts
ROFFS Deepwater Horizon page
Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR) imagery from the University of Miami

I'll be back Friday with an analysis of the new TSR hurricane forecast and a new forecast by a promising Florida State University model.

Jeff Masters
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2252. skep 2:08 PM GMT en Junio 04, 2010    
Phet's center has now left Oman and is again moving out to the sea. Dvorak T-Numbers are right now at 3.3 and the weakening flag if off, although Phet might not regain his old strength, but still poses a threat to Pakistan. Pressure according to Dvorak around 986.8.



UPDATE:
2 confirmed dead in Oman, as Phet hit the country as a CAT1. The oil production is completely on hold, but no damages to any installations.
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2253. JamesSA 2:09 PM GMT en Junio 04, 2010    
Quoting DestinJeff:
It is unfortunate, too, that the public is going to have so much faith/hope in the relief wells ... it sounds like a sound solution, but you can't help but get the feeling that it won't go necessarily as planned with that.

Please let's hope so, however. Or something else before that would be great too.
I couldn't agree more. The relief well requires flawless skill and precision, and that just doesn't seem to be something this company is capable of.
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2254. weathermanwannabe 2:09 PM GMT en Junio 04, 2010    
Quoting DestinJeff:
It is unfortunate, too, that the public is going to have so much faith/hope in the relief wells ... it sounds like a sound solution, but you can't help but get the feeling that it won't go necessarily as planned with that.

Please let's hope so, however. Or something else before that would be great too.


Thinking the same thing this morning.... :)
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2255. 900MB 2:10 PM GMT en Junio 04, 2010    
Quoting Patrap:
CNN Live feed

That doesn't look good. Doesn't seem to be stopping diddly!
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2256. Floodman 2:10 PM GMT en Junio 04, 2010    
Quoting srada:
As much as I want to see the leak stopped I have absolutely zero faith in BP at this point. I wish they'd get some other oil companies / countries who've dealt with this exact type of incident involved.

I hear people offering ideas and solutions but when they contact BP they get the "don't call us we'll call you" routine. They won't even take help from anyone!

That's why I've stopped being optimistic about anything they try because their track record in stopping the leak is about the same as their safety record: ABYSMAL!

I've resigned myself to waiting until the relief well is drilled. Maybe someone can work on expediting that process?


I so agree!!


There's the problem...to the best of my knowledge, no one has dealt with something like this, ever...this is the first well at this depth to have had a blow out. Ixtoc was in 200 meters of water (600-700 feet)...

You have hit on what's angered me the most about this debacle: BP is pretty much flying by the seat of thier pants. They had no fall back position and then they start doing stupid crap like replacing the mud with seawter some 16 hours before the blow out...you know, the "cost savings" efforts
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2257. Floodman 2:11 PM GMT en Junio 04, 2010    
Quoting 900MB:

That doesn't look good. Doesn't seem to be stopping diddly!


Again, the cap they have in place right now has a number of vents on it that are all wide open right now. The flow will certainly slow down once they close out the vents
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2258. JamesSA 2:12 PM GMT en Junio 04, 2010    
Quoting 900MB:

That doesn't look good. Doesn't seem to be stopping diddly!
Yeah. The oil is pushing it up off the top of the BOP and is gushing out the bottom. They failed to include a means of holding it in place other than gravity
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2259. Clearwater1 2:12 PM GMT en Junio 04, 2010    
I watched the live bp feed before being "fixed" after being "fixed" (up until about midnight) and againg this morning. I don't see any real improvement. Does anyone on this blog see an improvement. And to keep it weather relative. . . that low turning over Houston can't be helping matter, what with an on shore flow being generated. Also, I wonder if the newest "blob" in the western gulf will reach us here in central FL.
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2260. Floodman 2:13 PM GMT en Junio 04, 2010    
LOL...good morning, Orca...
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2261. JamesSA 2:13 PM GMT en Junio 04, 2010    
Quoting Floodman:


Again, thwe cap they have in opace right now has a number of vents on it that are all widfe iopen right now. The flow will certainly slow down once they close out the vents
But if you look at the video the oil coming out the vents isn't the problem. The thing is bobbing up and down on the well and it is gushing out around the bottom.
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2262. msgambler 2:14 PM GMT en Junio 04, 2010    
Good morning Floodman
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2264. jeffs713 2:14 PM GMT en Junio 04, 2010    
Quoting Floodman:


There's the problem...to the best of my knowledge, no one has dealt with something this, ever...this is the first well at this depth to have had a blow out. Ixtoc was in 200 meters of water (600-700 feet)...

You have hit oni my what's angered me the most about this debacle: BP is pretty much flying by the seat of thier pants. They had no fall back position and then they start doing stupid crap like replacing the mud with seawter some 16 hours before the blow out...you know, the "cost savings" eforts

One of the other things that went wrong (according to my neighbor, whom is a supervisor on one of the relief wells) is that the BOP (Blow Out Preventer)'s rams were right on a joint between two casings. If it was one foot above or below, it would have worked. But right on a joint... no dice.
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2265. weathermanwannabe 2:15 PM GMT en Junio 04, 2010    
If only Captain Nemo and the Nautilus was around...They would have probably figured it out by now....This BP saga is essentially a really bad movie with a tragic ending for the Gulf.
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2266. hurricanejunky 2:15 PM GMT en Junio 04, 2010    
Quoting Patrap:



I've seen it...worked offshore as a cook and Baker and brewed some maybe.

Breaux Bridge




I think it's a relatively new location. Their original location is near Key West (15 miles up the keys)...how far is Breaux Bridge from you?

From their site:
We have a brand new Baby's Coffee roasting plant located at 282 Rees Street Breaux Bridge, Louisiana 70517 and the new telephone number is 337-442-6359.
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2267. msgambler 2:16 PM GMT en Junio 04, 2010    
I have looked at every feed I can find and haven't seen anything "bobbing up and down"
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2268. atmoaggie 2:16 PM GMT en Junio 04, 2010    
Quoting hurricanejunky:
Hey Pat,
They've got a Baby's Coffee in Breaux Bridge, LA. Is that near you? Have you heard of them?

Looking at their page: http://www.babyscoffee.com/

Seems it is just a roasting plant in Breaux Bridge. Was hoping to sample at a coffee shop when we stop there on our treks to the west (good stopping point from Covington).

Anyone know differently? Is there a buy-a-cup-o-joe possibility?
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2269. Floodman 2:17 PM GMT en Junio 04, 2010    
Quoting msgambler:
Good morning Floodman


Hey, gambler!
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2270. CyclonicVoyage 2:17 PM GMT en Junio 04, 2010    
Quoting weathermanwannabe:


I am not holding my breath on the relief well either (with the exact "pinpoint" accuracy required for the intercept)....This is going to change the face of "deep" water drilling and I would hope that they require one or two releif wells to already be essentially in place,on future deep water drills, before they can activiate the main wells......You cannot wait several months for a releif well in the event of a blow-out preventer failure in the future.



Yeah, I know, I have those feelings as well. I have them stuffed WAY down inside, keeps me sain.
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2271. gordydunnot 2:20 PM GMT en Junio 04, 2010    
Nothing like beating a dead Gulf I mean horse.The situation really blows for lack of a better word. Blows Perfectly BP
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2272. Tazmanian 2:20 PM GMT en Junio 04, 2010    
Niño 3.4 -0.2ºC
Niño 3 -0.4ºC
Niño1+2 -0.6ºC
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2273. weathermanwannabe 2:20 PM GMT en Junio 04, 2010    
Quoting CyclonicVoyage:



Yeah, I know, I have those feelings as well. I have them stuffed WAY down inside, keeps me sain.


Going back to lurk mode and getting some work done....This is too depressing to watch for me at this point......BBL.
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2275. jeffs713 2:21 PM GMT en Junio 04, 2010    
Quoting CyclonicVoyage:



Yeah, I know, I have those feelings as well. I have them stuffed WAY down inside, keeps me sain.

The thing is... the Deepwater Horizon was an exploratory well. It was not a full production well. It was in the process of sealing up the well while the production facility was moved into place.
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2276. JamesSA 2:22 PM GMT en Junio 04, 2010    
Quoting msgambler:
I have looked at every feed I can find and haven't seen anything "bobbing up and down"
You can see the movement on two of the feeds on CNN right now. Just watch the little triangular legs on the bottom of the top hat. You will see it repeatedly lifting off the wellhead an inch or so and settling back down, and kind of shifting back and forth. The pressure of the oil is lifting it off the top of the BOP.
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2277. Clearwater1 2:22 PM GMT en Junio 04, 2010    
Link


In this feed you can see the fin in the lower right hand corner of the cap moving up and down. Check it out. I think a lot of oil is coming from under the cap.
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2278. beell 2:22 PM GMT en Junio 04, 2010    
Quoting Floodman:


A change of motto is in order too...how about

"We cover the world"

No, wait, that's Sherwin Williams paint, isn't it?


Sherwin-Williams may be willing to part with it, Flood-friend.

This one has already been taken, of course.

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2279. RobbWilder 2:24 PM GMT en Junio 04, 2010    
Quoting DestinJeff:
BPs new plan:



"Just set it and forget it!"


And use Shamwow's to get all the oil up?
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2280. aquak9 2:26 PM GMT en Junio 04, 2010    
Quoting RobbWilder:


And use Shamwow's to get all the oil up?


hey- dose germans make good stuff
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2281. Orcasystems 2:26 PM GMT en Junio 04, 2010    
Quoting Floodman:
LOL...good morning, Orca...


Interesting reading this morning.... depressing... but still interesting. I honestly don't think the full impact of this disaster has set in yet. People are still to busy blaming people/companies/gov.

I have been reading the Blogs and Reports... everyone wants to blame someone and find out who is going to pay them.

The only way this is going to get cleaned up... is old fashioned brute force with a massive work force. You have to wait till it starts to hit the shore and get off your behind and go help.

The oil on the shore is going to be the least of your problems... the problem is going to be those dispersant filled Plumes.



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2282. PanhandleChuck 2:26 PM GMT en Junio 04, 2010    
Quoting Clearwater1:
Link


In this feed you can see the fin in the lower right hand corner of the cap moving up and down. Check it out. I think a lot of oil is coming from under the cap.
.

On fox news a little while ago, said that the coast guard reports 42,000 gallons captured a day with new cap. A drop in the barrel considering it is releasing 400,000 to 1,000,000 gallons per day(no pun intended).
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2283. szqrn1 2:26 PM GMT en Junio 04, 2010    
Hey admin please read this!:
I am upset that you banned Tampaspin for putting up links to the oil spill webcam! Many people put up links to things that are far less significant to weather and environmental issues! The oil spill has been a topic of Dr. Masters' reports and how a storm relates to the spill and vice versa! This is incredibly important and certainly does not warrant a ban! I am in Las Vegas but my kids and family are in south Miss.. this site is VERY important to me this time of year especially and now very much so with the oil issue. I think you should look a little closer before you ban someone for posting relevant material.
Thank you!
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2284. Clearwater1 2:27 PM GMT en Junio 04, 2010    
And now, there is no confusing mud for oil. What a shame. It all oil coming out from under that cap. Maybe they will have it fixed by tonight as planned or at least an explanation of what's going on here and now.
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2285. PressureDrop 2:27 PM GMT en Junio 04, 2010    
This may not go over too well, but everywhere I turn, I see BP and the US president getting slammed for this disaster.

While I do believe the blame is deserved, especially directed at BP, I can not help but think that the average citizen, including myself, is allowing our leaders to screw our planet up.

In my opinion, us little folks need to accept some of the blame and figure out a way to make ourselves, not just heard, but listened to. It's our only planet.
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2286. catastropheadjuster 2:27 PM GMT en Junio 04, 2010    
Quoting atmoaggie:

Looking at their page: http://www.babyscoffee.com/

Seems it is just a roasting plant in Breaux Bridge. Was hoping to sample at a coffee shop when we stop there on our treks to the west (good stopping point from Covington).

Anyone know differently? Is there a buy-a-cup-o-joe possibility?


I'm not trying to start no conflict but Tampaspin sent me a email and told me he was banned for putting up the links to the oil videos so becareful on what u put up. Just thought i would let you all know if ya didn't already.
Sheri
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2287. RickWPB 2:28 PM GMT en Junio 04, 2010    
Quoting Floodman:


Again, the cap they have in place right now has a number of vents on it that are all wide open right now. The flow will certainly slow down once they close out the vents

I think that's right. They have to be careful that they don't get frozen crystallized particles again like they did at the first attempt which clogged the pipe. I sure hope this works. I'm ready for some good news for a change.
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2288. szqrn1 2:29 PM GMT en Junio 04, 2010    
Quoting catastropheadjuster:


I'm not trying to start no conflict but Tampaspin sent me a email and told me he was banned for putting up the links to the oil videos so becareful on what u put up. Just thought i would let you all know if ya didn't already.
Sheri


Thank you Sheri... you just validated my point!
Susan
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2289. aquak9 2:29 PM GMT en Junio 04, 2010    
Quoting szqrn1:
Hey admin please read this!:
I am upset that you banned Tampaspin for putting up links to the oil spill webcam! Many people put up links to things that are far less significant to weather and environmental issues! The oil spill has been a topic of Dr. Masters' reports and how a storm relates to the spill and vice versa! This is incredibly important and certainly does not warrant a ban! I am in Las Vegas but my kids and family are in south Miss.. this site is VERY important to me this time of year especially and now very much so with the oil issue. I think you should look a little closer before you ban someone for posting relevant material.
Thank you!


mail that to WunderBlogAdmin. And to think they allow the zombies to keep returning, yes I was not happy w/admins decision about tampaspin, too.
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2290. CaneWarning 2:29 PM GMT en Junio 04, 2010    
Quoting Orcasystems:


Interesting reading this morning.... depressing... but still interesting. I honestly don't think the full impact of this disaster has set in yet. People are still to busy blaming people/companies/gov.

I have been reading the Blogs and Reports... everyone wants to blame someone and find out who is going to pay them.

The only way this is going to get cleaned up... is old fashioned brute force with a massive work force. You have to wait till it starts to hit the shore and get off your behind and go help.

The oil on the shore is going to be the least of your problems... the problem is going to be those dispersant filled Plumes.





The sad part about it is that the majority of people don't really care either. I was just talking with a few people in my office, mind you we live in Tampa and could possibly see oil here one day, and none of them really cared. They just assume it will all get cleaned up, no harm no foul. It's sad.
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2291. 900MB 2:29 PM GMT en Junio 04, 2010    
Quoting Floodman:


Again, the cap they have in place right now has a number of vents on it that are all wide open right now. The flow will certainly slow down once they close out the vents


Unfortunately from the looks of it the "top hat" is already bobbing up and down. If and when they close the vents I think this thing is just going to pop off because they are dealing with pressure of at least 6500psi.
Where's my pitchfork!!
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2293. FLWeatherFreak91 2:33 PM GMT en Junio 04, 2010    
Quoting DestinJeff:
Is that Low pressure off of SE LA in 24hrs? Click to make big.

that's the mcs that moved off the coast of mexico last night and is currently s of la.
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2294. Clearwater1 2:33 PM GMT en Junio 04, 2010    
I just put up a link to the live oil cam; hope I don't get banned. But I believe it is relevant to weather via the cause and effect the weather will have on the coast when and if a storm goes through the area.
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2295. PanhandleChuck 2:33 PM GMT en Junio 04, 2010    
Quoting 900MB:


Unfortunately from the looks of it the "top hat" is already bobbing up and down. If and when they close the vents I think this thing is just going to pop off because they are dealing with pressure of at least 6500psi.
Where's my pitchfork!!


All of these manuevers by BP are just things to appease the public. They know very well that their only chance of success is the relief well. They will continue to use squirt guns to try and put out a forrest fire, so that it looks like they are trying.
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2296. kimoskee 2:34 PM GMT en Junio 04, 2010    
Met Service of Jamaica Website
June 4, 2010 at 5:00 a.m.

LOCAL WEATHER FORECAST

SIGNIFICANT FEATURE…High Pressure Ridge across the northern Caribbean.

Comment…
High pressure ridge is expected to linger across the region throughout the period.

TODAY'S FORECAST
This Morning… Mainly sunny.

This Afternoon… Expect scattered showers and isolated thunderstorms mainly over central and western parishes.

Tonight… Fair.

3-DAYS FORECAST (starting tomorrow)
Sat-Mon… Mainly sunny mornings with isolated afternoon showers and thunderstorms mainly across central and western parishes.

Regionally… An area of Low Pressure persist over the southwestern, while Tropical Waves continue to migrate across the southern Caribbean.


grb
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2297. szqrn1 2:34 PM GMT en Junio 04, 2010    
Quoting aquak9:


mail that to WunderBlogAdmin. And to think they allow the zombies to keep returning, yes I was not happy w/admins decision about tampaspin, too.


okay I did that.. good idea!

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2299. catastropheadjuster 2:34 PM GMT en Junio 04, 2010    
Quoting szqrn1:


Thank you Sheri... you just validated my point!
Susan

You welcome I think it's wrong. He was just trying to help that's all. I am gonna email them to. I mean we put up with folks getting banned and coming back with different handles all the time and to banned someone that's trying to help is just wrong.
Sheri
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2300. CaneWarning 2:35 PM GMT en Junio 04, 2010    
Quoting PanhandleChuck:


All of these manuevers by BP are just things to appease the public. They know very well that their only chance of success is the relief well. They will continue to use squirt guns to try and put out a forrest fire, so that it looks like they are trying.


Unforunately, I think you are right.
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2301. CyclonicVoyage 2:35 PM GMT en Junio 04, 2010    
Quoting jeffs713:

The thing is... the Deepwater Horizon was an exploratory well. It was not a full production well. It was in the process of sealing up the well while the production facility was moved into place.


Good thing / Bad thing. Means the well is full of oil.
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