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90L heads for North Carolina, drenches Bermuda; oil spill changing little
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 2:54 PM GMT en Mayo 24, 2010 +3
An extratropical low pressure system (90L) between the Bahamas and Bermuda is moving north-northwest towards North Carolina and is close to tropical storm strength. Last night's ASCAT pass saw a large area of 35 mph winds to the north and east of the center, and buoy 41048 to northeast of 90L's center was seeing sustained ENE winds of 36 mph, gusting to 43 mph this morning. Bermuda is seeing some heavy weather from this storm, with winds blowing at 35 mph on the west end of the island, and the Bermuda radar showing an area of moderate to heavy rain moving over the island. Seas are running 5 - 10 feet in the outer waters of Bermuda today, and are expected to increase to 10 - 14 feet tonight before diminishing on Tuesday.


Figure 1. Visible satellite image of 90L this morning.

Strong upper-levels winds out of the west are creating about 25 knots of wind shear over 90L, but the shear has been gradually decreasing over the past day. Visible satellite loops show that 90L does not have a well-defined surface circulation. The main thunderstorm activity is in a large curved band to the north and northeast of the center. This band is several hundred miles removed from the center, which is characteristic of subtropical storms. I expect that 90L will continue to grow more subtropical in nature today through Wednesday as the shear continues to fall. Sea surface temperatures are near 25°C today and will fall to 23 - 24°C on Tuesday. This is warm enough to support a subtropical storm, but probably not a tropical storm. On Wednesday, 90L will be nearing the warm waters of the Gulf Stream, and SSTs will warm again, to the 24 - 25°C range. This is still pretty cool for a tropical storm, and I expect 90L will never become fully tropical. To understand the difference between a tropical and subtropical storm and why we care, see my subtropical storm tutorial.

The SHIPS model predicts that shear will fall to the medium 10 - 20 knot range by Tuesday. A large amount of dry air to 90L's southwest associated with the upper-level trough of low pressure on top of the storm, as seen on water vapor satellite loops , will hamper transition of 90L to a subtropical or tropical storm. The system will move slowly towards the Southeast U.S. coast over the next two days, making its closest approach to the coast on Wednesday, when most of the models indicate the center will be 200 - 400 miles southeast of Cape Hatteras, North Carolina. All of the major models currently predict that 90L will not make landfall, but will move slowly eastward out to sea on Thursday, when a trough of low pressure moving across the Eastern U.S. picks up the storm. There presently isn't much to be concerned with about this storm, as it appears that it will remain offshore and will become, at worst, a 40 - 50 mph subtropical storm. The National Hurricane Center (NHC) is giving 90L a medium (30% chance) of developing into a depression or tropical/subtropical storm. Wunderbloggers Weather456 and StormW have more on 90L.

Western Caribbean disturbance
A small region of disturbed weather has developed in the Western Caribbean, off the east coast of Nicaragua. Moisture is expected to increase across in this area in the coming days, and by Saturday, the GFS and NOGAPS models predict that shear will drop low enough to permit the possible development of a strong tropical disturbance or tropical depression. This storm would then move northeastward over eastern Cuba early next week. The other models keep the shear high in the Caribbean all week, and do not show anything developing. Thus, the Western Caribbean bears watching later this week, but the conditions appear marginal for development.

Moderate risk of severe weather today in northern Plains
The Storm Prediction Center has placed western Nebraska and portions of South and North Dakota under their "Moderate" risk for severe weather today. They warn that "a couple of strong and possibly long-track tornadoes appear possible given the forecast scenario." Keep an eye on the activity today with our Severe Weather Page.

Major oil threat continues for the coast of Louisiana
Light winds are expected to prevail across the northern Gulf of Mexico all week, resulting in continued oiling threats to the Louisiana shoreline from the mouth of the Mississippi River westward 150 miles, according to the latest trajectory forecasts from NOAA. There is no longer a flow of oil moving southwards towards the Loop Current, and the oil that did move southwards last week was mostly entrained into a counter-clockwise rotating eddy attached to the northern boundary of the Loop Current. Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR) imagery over the weekend showed that most of this oil has dispersed, and very little of this oil is now visible from space (Figure 2.) Imagery from NASA's MODIS instrument and from NOAA aircraft did not show any oil in the Loop Current headed towards the Florida Keys over the weekend, so that is good news. NOAA comments that there may be some "scattered tar balls" in the Loop Current headed towards the Florida Keys. I expect these scattered tar balls have completed the full loop of the Loop Current and are now headed east towards the Keys, and will pass the Dry Tortugas and Key West sometime Wednesday - Saturday. My guess is that the oil and its accompanying plume of toxic dispersants will be too thin and scattered to cause significant problems in the Keys.


Figure 2. Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR) image of the oil spill taken at 11:41am EDT Saturday May 22, 2010, by the European Envisat-1 satellite. Only scattered patches of oil are evident in the counter-clockwise rotating eddy on the northern boundary of the Loop Current. A small amount of oil appears to be in the Loop Current, and is moving southward. Image credit: Center for Southeastern Tropical Advanced Remote Sensing, University of Miami Rosenstiel School of Marine and Atmospheric Science. SAR images have a resolution of 8 - 50 meters, and can be taken through clouds and precipitation.

Future threats to the Keys
Mostly offshore winds are expected this week over the northern Gulf of Mexico, thanks to the approach of the 90L storm along the Southeast U.S. coast. It is uncertain if these winds will be strong enough to push oil southward into the Loop Current, though at least one ocean trajectory model does show this occurring. As I discussed in my post Wednesday, the Loop Current is very unstable right now, and is ready to cut off into a giant clockwise-rotating eddy, an event that occurs every 6 - 11 months. At least one ocean model (the Global HYCOM model from the HYCOM consortium) is predicting that such an eddy will form this week. In the event a Loop Current Eddy does break off, it would create a rotating ring of water 250 miles in diameter to the south of the oil spill. Oil moving southwards would tend to enter the giant eddy and circulate around it, not threatening any land areas. Roffer's Ocean Fishing Forecast Service has a nice discussion on the possibility of the Loop Current cutting off into a Loop Current Eddy. Keep in mind, though, that during the first month that a Loop Current Eddy forms, it exchanges a considerable amount of water with the Loop Current. Thus we can expect that a portion of any oil moving southwards into a Loop Current Eddy will find its way into the Loop Current and move past the Florida Keys.

Oil spill resources
My post Wednesday with answers to some of the common questions I get about the spill
My post on the Southwest Florida "Forbidden Zone" where surface oil will rarely go
My post on what oil might do to a hurricane
NOAA trajectory forecasts
Deepwater Horizon Unified Command web site
Oil Spill Academic Task Force
University of South Florida Ocean Circulation Group oil spill forecasts
ROFFS Deepwater Horizon page
Surface current forecasts from NOAA's HYCOM model
Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR) imagery from the University of Miami

I'll be back with a new post Tuesday morning.

Jeff Masters
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1052. CapeCoralStorm 3:34 AM GMT en Mayo 25, 2010    
I figured i would speak up this season instead of just lurk. Its kind of funny because i know a bit about quite a few of you from watching over the years.. Yet no one is familiar with me at all. FWIW.. Im 31 and a Paramedic in Lee Co.
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1053. Tazmanian 3:34 AM GMT en Mayo 25, 2010    
Quoting CapeCoralStorm:
No not JFV. Name is Adam. im in fort myers,fl and lived in cape coral during 2004/2005. Had a front row seat for Charley.



ok
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1054. BenBIogger 3:34 AM GMT en Mayo 25, 2010    
All aboard the naocoaster!

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1055. CapeCoralStorm 3:36 AM GMT en Mayo 25, 2010    
ok maybe someone can help me out with something. Every time i post, it takes me to the TOP of the page. I then have to scroll all the way down to the bottom. Is there a way to change that, to make it bring me to the last post instead of the 1st?
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1056. pottery 3:37 AM GMT en Mayo 25, 2010    
OK
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1057. xcool 3:37 AM GMT en Mayo 25, 2010    
lmao
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1058. pottery 3:38 AM GMT en Mayo 25, 2010    
Click 'order posted' right above here..
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1059. atmoaggie 3:38 AM GMT en Mayo 25, 2010    
Quoting CapeCoralStorm:
ok maybe someone can help me out with something. Every time i post, it takes me to the TOP of the page. I then have to scroll all the way down to the bottom. Is there a way to change that, to make it bring me to the last post instead of the 1st?

You want the "newest first" just under dr M's post.
...unless I misread your gripe...
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1060. CapeCoralStorm 3:40 AM GMT en Mayo 25, 2010    
Looks like i have it on Newest First, yet it still takes me to the top of the page, with the newest post being at the bottom of the page.
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1061. Dakster 3:42 AM GMT en Mayo 25, 2010    
I am assuming you are on a PC using internet explorer as that seems to be an IE thing... I have better luck with firefox... ALso, put IE in compatibility mode. It is the broken page icon next to the address bar.
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1062. pottery 3:42 AM GMT en Mayo 25, 2010    
Quoting CapeCoralStorm:
Looks like i have it on Newest First, yet it still takes me to the top of the page, with the newest post being at the bottom of the page.

Try the other one then.
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1063. atmoaggie 3:43 AM GMT en Mayo 25, 2010    
Quoting Dakster:
I am assuming you are on a PC using internet explorer as that seems to be an IE thing... I have better luck with firefox... ALso, put IE in compatibility mode. It is the broken page icon next to the address bar.

IE stands for Inept Explorer...
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1064. CapeCoralStorm 3:44 AM GMT en Mayo 25, 2010    
Im using a PC with Firefox. Looks like mym options are scroll down to the bottom after posting, or learn to read/keep up bottom to top.
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1065. pottery 3:44 AM GMT en Mayo 25, 2010    
I am out.
Have a great night/early morning!
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1066. Xyrus 3:46 AM GMT en Mayo 25, 2010    
Looks like 90L is trying to build a new COC around 30,72, northwest of the old one (using the Dvorak loop on NOAA). A little bit of convection near that point as well.

Not that it will amount to anything. :)

1067. Dakster 3:52 AM GMT en Mayo 25, 2010    
Quoting atmoaggie:

IE stands for Inept Explorer...


you get points for that good one.. :)
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1068. hydrus 3:59 AM GMT en Mayo 25, 2010    
Quoting gator23:


ok he checks out.
I lived right by him at the Players club Apartments in the early 1990,s.
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1069. Tazmanian 4:02 AM GMT en Mayo 25, 2010    
all so if you like firefox then you sould test firefox beta 4.0 comeing june 21st
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1070. Skyepony (Mod) 4:06 AM GMT en Mayo 25, 2010    
This is just about the core of what wants to be an EPAC/WCAR blob.

Costa Rica's Arenal volcano has erupted, spewing geysers of lava, ash and toxic gases from its crater and forcing the evacuation of the national park where it is located. The 1633-metre-tall cone-shaped mountain in northern Costa Rica shuddered into activity at 4am this morning issuing eight successive rivers of lava that flowed down its steep slopes, National Volcanology and Seismology Observatory expert Elicer Duarte said. He said nobody was at risk from the eruptions but authorities as a precaution evacuated the Arenal National Park, 80km north-east of San Jose. The Arenal Volcano is one of Costa Rica's major tourist attractions and the park has scores of hotels, restaurants, nightclubs and shopping centres. No estimates were given of how many people were inside the park when the eruption began. Arenal's last major eruption in July 1968 killed 89 people. Smaller eruptions have occurred at least six times over the past 35 years.
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1071. Levi32 4:18 AM GMT en Mayo 25, 2010    
Good evening all. I've been gone all day at high school graduation....just now catching up on 90L. It looks like the NHC is losing confidence in it.
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1072. hydrus 4:22 AM GMT en Mayo 25, 2010    
Quoting Levi32:
Good evening all. I've been gone all day at high school graduation....just now catching up on 90L.
Wuzup Levi. I was just turning in. If you graduated tonight congratulations. If you have already graduated, congrats to the ones who did.;)
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1073. hydrus 4:23 AM GMT en Mayo 25, 2010    
Quoting Skyepony:
This is just about the core of what wants to be an EPAC/WCAR blob.

Costa Rica's Arenal volcano has erupted, spewing geysers of lava, ash and toxic gases from its crater and forcing the evacuation of the national park where it is located. The 1633-metre-tall cone-shaped mountain in northern Costa Rica shuddered into activity at 4am this morning issuing eight successive rivers of lava that flowed down its steep slopes, National Volcanology and Seismology Observatory expert Elicer Duarte said. He said nobody was at risk from the eruptions but authorities as a precaution evacuated the Arenal National Park, 80km north-east of San Jose. The Arenal Volcano is one of Costa Rica's major tourist attractions and the park has scores of hotels, restaurants, nightclubs and shopping centres. No estimates were given of how many people were inside the park when the eruption began. Arenal's last major eruption in July 1968 killed 89 people. Smaller eruptions have occurred at least six times over the past 35 years.
That Arenal is one of the most active in the world according to Wiki.
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1074. xcool 4:26 AM GMT en Mayo 25, 2010    


new ngp







gfs ooz

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1075. Levi32 4:26 AM GMT en Mayo 25, 2010    
Quoting hydrus:
Wuzup Levi. I was just turning in. If you graduated tonight congratulations. If you have already graduated, congrats to the ones who did.;)


I did, and thank you :)
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1076. futuremet 4:26 AM GMT en Mayo 25, 2010    
Quoting Levi32:
Good evening all. I've been gone all day at high school graduation....just now catching up on 90L. It looks like the NHC is losing confidence in it.


This is great to hear Levi. My high school graduation is June 4th. I myself was never impressed by 90L, even after it was upgraded to code orange. Marginal SSTs, high wind shear, and dry air intrusion are all features that do not really favor tropical cyclogenesis.

I am particularly interested in the SW Caribbean. The peak of the upward MJO phase will be around May 28th, and an upper level ridge might form over the region--providing favorable conditions for tropical cyclone formation.
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1077. ManifestIrony 4:27 AM GMT en Mayo 25, 2010    
I think we might have the first straight figure from BP on the rate that oil is and has been pouring into the gulf.


From NOLA.com
The top kill process involves pumping fabricated "kill mud," which is about twice the density of water, into the well at 50 barrels a minute to overcome the flow.


If the mud flow rate in must be greater than or equal to the rate of oil/gas out, then you get an idea of the actual leak rate.


50bbls/min = 72,000 barrels or 3,024,000 gallons per day! Even if they're shooting for 20% over the (internal to BP) estimated flow rate, that's still 57,600bbls/day. I really wish BP would just come out and say what they know to be true.
1078. xcool 4:31 AM GMT en Mayo 25, 2010    



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1079. Levi32 4:31 AM GMT en Mayo 25, 2010    
Quoting futuremet:


This is great to hear Levi. My high school graduation is June 4th. I myself was never impressed by 90L, even after it was upgraded to code orange. Marginal SSTs, high wind shear, and dry air intrusion are all features that do not really favor tropical cyclogenesis.

I am particularly interested in the SW Caribbean. The peak of the upward MJO phase will be around May 28th, and an upper level ridge might form over the region--providing favorable conditions for tropical cyclone formation.


Thanks, and congrats on your upcoming graduation :)

Yeah I am less impressed with both features than I was a few days ago. I still think 90L has a good chance at pulling off subtropical development. It has 2-3 days to sit near the Gulf Stream under an upper low and Andrea in 2007 had just as much dry air. The only major limiting factor I see is the sheer size and broadness of the system. It will take a lot of effort to get a tight circulation.

The Caribbean may still be trouble, but most of the heat looks to be consolidating in the eastern Pacific, so we'll see.
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1080. Hurricanes101 4:32 AM GMT en Mayo 25, 2010    
Quoting Levi32:
Good evening all. I've been gone all day at high school graduation....just now catching up on 90L. It looks like the NHC is losing confidence in it.


Congrats on graduation

So what do you think of 90L
Also the EPAC has a yellow circle now and some models want to bring it across into the Caribbean in a few days as a classified system

I am not sure if you have even gotten a chance to look at things
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1081. Skyepony (Mod) 4:32 AM GMT en Mayo 25, 2010    
That whole chain looks somewhat active..SO2 for the area..
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1082. Hurricanes101 4:34 AM GMT en Mayo 25, 2010    
Quoting Levi32:


Thanks, and congrats on your upcoming graduation :)

Yeah I am less impressed with both features than I was a few days ago. I still think 90L has a good chance at pulling off subtropical development. It has 2-3 days to sit near the Gulf Stream under an upper low and Andrea in 2007 had just as much dry air. The only major limiting factor I see is the sheer size and broadness of the system. It will take a lot of effort to get a tight circulation.

The Caribbean may still be trouble, but most of the heat looks to be consolidating in the eastern Pacific, so we'll see.


yea Levi but models first bring that area in the EPAC NW and then back to the NE across Central America and just north of Honduras over the next few days
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1083. Levi32 4:35 AM GMT en Mayo 25, 2010    
Quoting Hurricanes101:


Congrats on graduation

So what do you think of 90L
Also the EPAC has a yellow circle now and some models want to bring it across into the Caribbean in a few days as a classified system

I am not sure if you have even gotten a chance to look at things


Yeah lol I'm just now pouring over imagery. My first impressions are in post 1079. We shall see I guess.
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1084. futuremet 4:38 AM GMT en Mayo 25, 2010    
It is currently 12:38 AM in Florida; I am very sleepy. Good night!
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1085. Skyepony (Mod) 4:39 AM GMT en Mayo 25, 2010    
Levi~ Congrats:)

Evening Windsat
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1086. Hurricanes101 4:42 AM GMT en Mayo 25, 2010    
Quoting Skyepony:
Levi~ Congrats:)

Evening Windsat


I think that may be the best defined any circulation has been since 90L got going lol
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1087. xcool 4:43 AM GMT en Mayo 25, 2010    



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1088. Hurricanes101 4:43 AM GMT en Mayo 25, 2010    
Quoting xcool:



1003 low in epac


Actually that is over Central America, not in the EPAC
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1089. winter123 4:44 AM GMT en Mayo 25, 2010    
new main circulation desperately trying to take over at 30N 72W, just east of the new blowup. You can't see it on the floater but you can see it here, especially in motion and speed up the loop to max speed. I still think it has a 50-75% chance. Dunno if I'll post again goodnight if not and we shall see tomorrow.

Link
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1090. xcool 4:44 AM GMT en Mayo 25, 2010    
yeah thanks .opps my bad
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1091. Skyepony (Mod) 4:44 AM GMT en Mayo 25, 2010    
3hrs later on ASCAT (and about 3 hrs ago)...if you can't stand to watch one be slaughtered by shear & dry air turn away..
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1092. Hurricanes101 4:45 AM GMT en Mayo 25, 2010    
Quoting xcool:
yeah thanks .opps my bad


actually looking at the loops it should be over the water lol
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1093. wunderkidcayman 4:45 AM GMT en Mayo 25, 2010    
new surface map (00Z)



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1094. Levi32 4:45 AM GMT en Mayo 25, 2010    
Quoting Skyepony:
Levi~ Congrats:)

Evening Windsat


Thanks :)
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1095. Hurricanes101 4:48 AM GMT en Mayo 25, 2010    
Quoting Skyepony:
3hrs later on ASCAT (and about 3 hrs ago)...if you can't stand to watch one die turn away..


I wonder though, I see what Winter is saying about another low spinning up at 30N 72W close to that convection

This low further south dying may actually help 90L more than hurt it
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1096. xcool 4:48 AM GMT en Mayo 25, 2010    
Hurricanes101 yeah lmao.
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1097. Levi32 4:51 AM GMT en Mayo 25, 2010    
Quoting Hurricanes101:


I wonder though, I see what Winter is saying about another low spinning up at 30N 72W close to that convection

This low further south dying may actually help 90L more than hurt it


Only problem is all the countless lows that have come out and died have resulted in the entire circulation being very enlarged and broad.
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1098. Hurricanes101 4:52 AM GMT en Mayo 25, 2010    
Quoting Levi32:


Only problem is all the countless lows that have come out and died have resulted in the entire circulation being very enlarged and broad.


yea true
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1099. xcool 4:53 AM GMT en Mayo 25, 2010    



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1100. winter123 5:00 AM GMT en Mayo 25, 2010    
Quoting xcool:





So what, is our Carribean storm actually gonna bomb into a huge rainmaker for the pacific central america coast instead?
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1101. xcool 5:05 AM GMT en Mayo 25, 2010    
winter123 I really don't know.
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