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Solar impacts on hurricanes
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 2:36 PM GMT en Mayo 13, 2010 +7
I'm in Tucson for the American Meteorological Society's 29th Conference on Hurricanes and Tropical Meteorology. This is the premier scientific conference on hurricanes, and is held only once every two years, so pretty much all of the world's greatest hurricane experts are here. One of the more intriguing posters presented at Tuesday's poster session was titled, Evidence linking solar variability with USA hurricanes, by Robert Hodges and Jim Elsner of Florida State University. They showed that the probability of three or more hurricanes hitting the U.S. during a hurricane season with warmer than average sea surface temperatures increases dramatically during minima in the 11-year sunspot cycle. The odds increase from 20% to 40% for years when the sunspot activity is in the lower 25% of the sunspot cycle, compared to years in the upper 25% of the cycle. Near the peak of the sunspot cycle, the odds of at least one hurricane hitting the U.S. are just 25%, but at solar minimum, the odds increase sharply to 64%. The authors studied the period 1851 - 2008, and controlled for other variables such as changes in sea surface temperature and El Niño. Such a large impact of the sun on hurricanes might seem surprising, given that the change in solar energy at all light wavelengths is only about 0.1%. This relatively small change causes just a 0.1°C change in Earth's mean surface temperature between the peak of the 11-year sunspot cycle (high solar activity) and the minimum of the sunspot cycle (where we are now.) However, variation in radiation between extrema of the solar cycle can be 10% or more in portions of the UV range (Elsner et al., 2008.) The strong change in UV light causes globally averaged temperature swings in the lower stratosphere of 0.4°C between the minimum and maximum of the sunspot cycle--four times as great as the difference measured at Earth's surface (Lean, 2009). This sensitivity of the stratosphere to UV light is due to the fact the ozone layer is located in the stratosphere. Ozone absorbs a large amount of UV light, causing the stratosphere to heat up when solar activity is high. The authors speculate that a warmer stratosphere then heats up the upper troposphere, making the atmosphere more stable. An unstable atmosphere--with hot temperatures at the surface and cold conditions in the upper troposphere--are conducive for stronger hurricanes. Thus, we would expect to see reductions in hurricanes during the peak of the sunspot cycle.

Previous research
The findings presented at this week's conference build upon earlier work published by Elsner et al. (2008) and Elsner et al. (2010). The first of these studies found that for every 100 extra sunspots in September, the temperature of the atmosphere at 16 km altitude over the Caribbean and Gulf of Mexico increased by about 0.5°C, and the number of hurricanes in this region was reduced by 26%. Interestingly, a reduction of hurricanes over the eastern Atlantic off the coast of Africa was not observed during solar maxima, which the authors attributed to the fact that hurricanes in this region are limited by sea surface temperature, not instability. Solar maximum brings a small increase in sea surface temperature to the globe, aiding hurricane development in regions where sea surface temperature is the limiting factor. The second of these studies (Elsner et al., 2010) computed that for a Category 2 hurricane affecting the U.S. during the most active 30% range of the solar cycle, the resultant heating of the upper troposphere would cause a 19% decrease in the stability, lowering the hurricane's winds by 10% (10 mph.) Stronger hurricanes would be affected even more, with a potential wind speed reduction of 23 mph for the most powerful hurricanes. The 27-day rotation period of the sun causes a change in UV light even larger than the change observed during the 11-year sunspot cycle, so perhaps we should be monitoring the phase of the sun's rotation to look for more favorable periods for hurricane formation.

Commentary
Considering that this year we are at the deepest solar minimum in more than a century, this research gives us yet another reason to expect a severe Atlantic hurricane season this year. My next post, which may not be until Monday, I'll discuss the sea surface temperatures in the Atlantic hurricane main development region, which set an all-time record last month for the warmest monthly anomaly for the 100+ years we have records. Also, El Niño now appears to be over, as sea surface temperatures in the Eastern Pacific have crossed the threshold into neutral territory.

References
Elsner, J. B., and T. H. Jagger, 2008, United States and Caribbean tropical cyclone activity related to the solar cycle, Geophys. Res. Lett., 35, L18705, doi:10.1029/2008GL034431.

Elsner, J. B., T. H. Jagger, and R. E. Hodges, 2010, Daily tropical cyclone intensity response to solar ultraviolet radiation, Geophys. Res. Lett., 37, L09701, doi:10.1029/2010GL043091.

Lean, J.L., 2009, Cycles and trends in solar irradiance and climate", Wiley Interdisciplinary Reviews: Climate Change, Volume 1, Issue 1, Pages 111-122 Published Online: 22 Dec 2009

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201. Levi32 7:24 PM GMT en Mayo 13, 2010    
Quoting StSimonsIslandGAGuy:


Well, yes, except for one thing. That's a prediction---the cooler than normal world in Dec 2010 to Feb 2011 is just a projection by a model. Models didn't predict the extremely warm start to 2010 either. So it remains to be seen whether the Dec 2010 to Feb 2011 period will really be cooler than normal.

And regardless of whether it is cooler than normal or not, I expect to see new record warm global average temperatures for at least one year in 2013-2016, and possibly more than one record warmest year.


Real funny coming from people who worship their model "projections" which are supposed to be so infallable that not believing in them is a sin. Oh well....lol.

The global models didn't pick up on the El Nino and warm temps last year until it was already in progress. The same has happened with this La Nina as the CFS just a month ago finally came out of lala land and picked up on the very obvious trend. That model is an embarrassment. Now that they have all caught on more or less, we're seeing the cooling trend this winter, and in my opinion 2011 will see a crash in temps similar to after the 1998 El Nino. We will likely dip below the zero line on global temp anomalies sometime next year. This winter will probably be brutal overall globally. What happens after that remains to be seen.
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202. gordydunnot 7:24 PM GMT en Mayo 13, 2010    
I know they must have some wild geniuses working on this problem, but would it be nice if it turns out to be as simple as stick a cork in it with a straw in the middle. Takes you back to basic science lab experiments.
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203. nrtiwlnvragn 7:25 PM GMT en Mayo 13, 2010    
I read they are going to try and insert a tube into the riser as shown in this graphic. Also, a rig to drill a second relief well should arrive on scene tomorrow.
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204. lilElla 7:32 PM GMT en Mayo 13, 2010    
Why has drilling for the relief well not started yet? That should have been the first thing done!
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205. lilElla 7:33 PM GMT en Mayo 13, 2010    
Sorry - just saw the 2nd relief well. My bad....
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206. nrtiwlnvragn 7:34 PM GMT en Mayo 13, 2010    
Quoting lilElla:
Why has drilling for the relief well not started yet? That should have been the first thing done!



Work on the first relief well, which began on Sunday May 2, continues. It is expected to take some three months to complete. The drilling rig that will drill the second relief well is currently en route to the site, expected to arrive by Friday.


Link
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207. plywoodstatenative 7:34 PM GMT en Mayo 13, 2010    
whats going on with the pipe itself, I had heard that there was a leak that had started at the base of it, well before where the main blowout happened?
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208. plywoodstatenative 7:36 PM GMT en Mayo 13, 2010    
Press, you need to get in touch with me at the email account I gave you. Got something to discuss with you, might be worth looking into..
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209. Patrap 7:38 PM GMT en Mayo 13, 2010    
There are indications the BOP had a hydraulic leak pre-blowout,and a RAM activator Battery may have been dead as well on the BOP ..not the riser pipe.
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210. plywoodstatenative 7:38 PM GMT en Mayo 13, 2010    
Last item, whats the current MJO pulse combined with the forecast for the movement of the ITCZ at the present momment?
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212. pottery 7:40 PM GMT en Mayo 13, 2010    
Afternoon, all.
The thing with the existing oil-flow from the Gulf Well, is that right now there are kinks and blockages (perhaps even a semi-closed BOP) restricting the flow. (a good thing)
If it was free-flowing, the entire gulf would be filled with oil already almost. There is about 10,000 PSI of pressure behind the leak. Look at the leak in Pat's video a little earlier. That's a relative dribble. A free flowing well would have vast amounts of oil and gas pelting out of it.
One of the obvious concerns is that, as the oil leaks through cracks in the pipe, the cracks may be being continuously sand blasted into bigger and bigger holes as sand under high pressure erroded the cracks.
A slight nudge could rupture or break the riser pipe from the BOP too, causing free-flow. Thats why there is so much care being taken with the placement of the top hat. IMO.
Also, I think that the idea of the other well, to intercept the leaking one, is to be able to pump heavy mud (Baroid etc) into the hole and abandon the well. Others can be drilled into this formation to produce the oil later.
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213. plywoodstatenative 7:40 PM GMT en Mayo 13, 2010    
Pat, there was talk that they had run a series of tests right before the explosion occurred and that the final test they ran may have lead up to the methane issue itself. To have your main seal on the pipe be reported by the manufacturer to be defective says alot. They said this was the most technologically advanced platform, then explain all the safety tests that were rated unacceptable to the fail safes that simply failed.
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215. pottery 7:41 PM GMT en Mayo 13, 2010    
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216. pottery 7:42 PM GMT en Mayo 13, 2010    
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218. Levi32 7:42 PM GMT en Mayo 13, 2010    
Quoting plywoodstatenative:
Last item, whats the current MJO pulse combined with the forecast for the movement of the ITCZ at the present momment?


The MJO is currently organizing over the Indian Ocean and Maritime Continent, and will likely be moving into our area of the world between May 25th and June 10th. During that time we may stir up some mischief in the Caribbean, but we will have to see if we can get a tropical wave or disturbance in there during that time to take advantage of it.



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219. plywoodstatenative 7:42 PM GMT en Mayo 13, 2010    
Pottery, interesting question and point. We all know there has been reported seismic activity in and around the Gulf. Is there a chance that any of that recent activity could have played a role in what happened? Even so, whats the possibility of future activity impacting the well?
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220. Patrap 7:43 PM GMT en Mayo 13, 2010    
Quoting plywoodstatenative:
Pat, there was talk that they had run a series of tests right before the explosion occurred and that the final test they ran may have lead up to the methane issue itself. To have your main seal on the pipe be reported by the manufacturer to be defective says alot. They said this was the most technologically advanced platform, then explain all the safety tests that were rated unacceptable to the fail safes that simply failed.


The positive pressure tests on the well were good,the negative pressure test were NOT good.

Im well aware,no pun intended, of the circumstances on the Trans Ocean Rig pre blowout.
Its well documented.


I spent 2.6 years on Hercules 21 for Chevron in the mid-90's
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221. nola70119 7:44 PM GMT en Mayo 13, 2010    
The leak in the video is probably not the main leak........BP has continually said that the main leak was not at the end of the pipe. The video shows a clean-cut pipe....talking to a shrimper this morning he says the oil is thick below the surface and going under the booms. Plaquemines parish president Billy Nungasser wants BP to stop sink the oil....
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222. lilElla 7:44 PM GMT en Mayo 13, 2010    
thank you nrtiwlnvragn :)
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223. Patrap 7:45 PM GMT en Mayo 13, 2010    
Seismic activity was in no way a factor in the Methane caused blowout April 20th at 10pm CST.

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224. plywoodstatenative 7:46 PM GMT en Mayo 13, 2010    
Storm, noticing a high off the coast of Africa, is it odd to have one in that area right now?
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225. gordydunnot 7:48 PM GMT en Mayo 13, 2010    
No vorticity but pressure is dropping and there does appear to be dropping shear and a line of convergence and divergence just nw west of the Yucatan, nothing to get excited about yet. But on satellite its looking a little interesting. Is this a hung up old front, sometimes they spell trouble. Or may just give rise to blob in gulf like this time last year.
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226. Patrap 7:49 PM GMT en Mayo 13, 2010    
GOM IR Loop



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228. pottery 7:50 PM GMT en Mayo 13, 2010    
Quoting Patrap:
Seismic activity was in no way a factor in the Methane caused blowout April 20th at 10pm CST.


Agreed.
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229. Levi32 7:52 PM GMT en Mayo 13, 2010    
Quoting StSimonsIslandGAGuy:


Exactly where did I say I worship or cite climate models? Or ever cite them. It's not nice to make up stuff about bloggers, Levi.

FYI my personal opinion is that the global climate models understate the upcoming temperature increases, but that's another story.


Sorry for applying the stereotype, but rarely is anyone in here on the AGW side of things who isn't exactly the same as everyone else. You are not as bad as some others here though.
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230. TampaSpin 7:53 PM GMT en Mayo 13, 2010    
Quoting gordydunnot:
No vorticity but pressure is dropping and there does appear to be dropping shear and a line of convergence and divergence just nw west of the Yucatan, nothing to get excited about yet. But on satellite its looking a little interesting. Is this a hung up old front, sometimes they spell trouble. Or may just give rise to blob in gulf like this time last year.


I see nothing close to organizing there....Sorry!
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231. pottery 7:57 PM GMT en Mayo 13, 2010    
In the meantime, the wave at 35w is being blown to shreds....
Looks like I gonna hav to water my plants agin!
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233. Greyelf 7:59 PM GMT en Mayo 13, 2010    
Ok, I saw a story about this on the national news this morning and wondered why this wasn't being used. I've not seen any mention here in the blog about oil skimmers being used on the slick. While it's not a solution, it would seem like a pretty good bandaid versus use of chemical detergents. Is there a reason skimmers aren't being used? Link
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234. gordydunnot 8:03 PM GMT en Mayo 13, 2010    
Boy some day when we get ride of the doc we will all have a new blog we can go to. Personally hopefully it ain't in my life time.By then we will have a complete lack of common since I think.
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235. Patrap 8:03 PM GMT en Mayo 13, 2010    
http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/watch/ww0167_radar_big.gif
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236. presslord 8:05 PM GMT en Mayo 13, 2010    
.By then we will have a complete lack of common since I think.

...well....I( think that train has long ago left the station...
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237. Patrap 8:05 PM GMT en Mayo 13, 2010    
By the Numbers to Date:

* Personnel were quickly deployed and approximately 13,000 are currently responding to protect the shoreline and wildlife.

* More than 510 vessels are responding on site, including skimmers, tugs, barges, and recovery vessels to assist in containment and cleanup efforts—in addition to dozens of aircraft, remotely operated vehicles, and multiple mobile offshore drilling units.
* Approximately 1.5 million feet of boom (regular and sorbent) have been deployed to contain the spill—and approximately 1.5 million feet are available.
* Approximately 4 million gallons of an oil-water mix have been recovered.
* Approximately 436,000 gallons of dispersant have been deployed. More than 120,000 gallons are available.
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238. CyclonicVoyage 8:05 PM GMT en Mayo 13, 2010    
Quoting Greyelf:
Ok, I saw a story about this on the national news this morning and wondered why this wasn't being used. I've not seen any mention here in the blog about oil skimmers being used on the slick. While it's not a solution, it would seem like a pretty good bandaid versus use of chemical detergents. Is there a reason skimmers aren't being used? Link



Skimmers are out in full force, have been for some time now.
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239. gordydunnot 8:06 PM GMT en Mayo 13, 2010    
Sorry for what answering a question.
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240. Patrap 8:07 PM GMT en Mayo 13, 2010    
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241. twhcracker 8:07 PM GMT en Mayo 13, 2010    
Quoting gordydunnot:
Boy some day when we get ride of the doc we will all have a new blog we can go to. Personally hopefully it ain't in my life time.By then we will have a complete lack of common since I think.


i are ride of all ignernce an i are fully loded of c0ommen since
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242. Ameister12 8:11 PM GMT en Mayo 13, 2010    
Good afternoon!

Just found out the tri-state is under a tornado watch. Better keep an eye on the weather.
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243. Greyelf 8:11 PM GMT en Mayo 13, 2010    
Thanks for the quick response on the skimmers. Apparently no one thought to tell the people at the Today show.
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245. nrtiwlnvragn 8:15 PM GMT en Mayo 13, 2010    
Quoting Ameister12:
Good afternoon!

Just found out the tri-state is under a tornado watch. Better keep an eye on the weather.


Tornado Warning for North Central Arkansas
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246. pottery 8:16 PM GMT en Mayo 13, 2010    
Quoting StSimonsIslandGAGuy:
If you must know, since CO2 was around 180-200 ppm during ice ages, and 280-300 ppm during interglacials, that means that CO2 was about 50% greater during interglacials. And the world was about 10 C warmer during interglacial periods than during ice ages. So I expect that a 450 ppm CO2 concentration will ultimately lead to a world 10 C warmer than today, since I see nothing that prevents similar feedbacks.

Which means no ice anywhere, and hurricane warnings for south Alaska in summer. In a few hundred years.

Anyway that's my reasoning.

And I am dubious about climate models. The models in use today were not around 10 years ago. The models 10 years from now will be run on computers with vastly greater computer power, and hopefully will have more comprehensive data inputs. And in 2030, 2040 and so on.

By itself, a 50% increase in CO2 results in about a 1.2 C rise. Where more research is needed is to identify and quantify the feedbacks, positive and negative, that turned a 1.2 C rise into a 10 C rise between ice ages and interglacials. And see how these feedbacks operate when starting from a warm interglacial world, see how they are different, what new feedbacks might come into play.

And for today, that is all I have to say about that.

Thats all you have to say? Thank Goodness!
LOL
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247. Greyelf 8:18 PM GMT en Mayo 13, 2010    
Graphic on global warming (apparently a few years old, but I just found):
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248. TampaSpin 8:19 PM GMT en Mayo 13, 2010    
Quoting Greyelf:
Graphic on global warming (apparently a few years old, but I just found):


You are giving PressLord too many ideas.....that is beautiful!

LMAO
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249. Patrap 8:23 PM GMT en Mayo 13, 2010    
Quoting Greyelf:
Thanks for the quick response on the skimmers. Apparently no one thought to tell the people at the Today show.


They way overpaid and under sourced.

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250. Snowlover123 8:25 PM GMT en Mayo 13, 2010    
Quoting Greyelf:
Graphic on global warming (apparently a few years old, but I just found):


No... it's proof of Global Cooling :P!


For ACTUAL PROOF THAT GLOBAL COOLING WILL COME, look at this image of a Climate Model for the Winter of 2010-2011.
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251. NttyGrtty 8:25 PM GMT en Mayo 13, 2010    
Santa Rosa County Florida Deepwater Horizon Oil Spill Update #13 Link
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