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Heavy snowfall in a warming world
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 3:29 PM GMT en Febrero 08, 2010 +8
A major new winter storm is headed east over the U.S. today, and threatens to dump a foot or more of snow on Philadelphia, New York City, and surrounding regions Tuesday and Wednesday. Philadelphia is still digging out from its second top-ten snowstorm of recorded history to hit the city this winter, and the streets are going to begin looking like canyons if this week's snowstorm adds a significant amount of snow to the incredible 28.5" that fell during "Snowmageddon" last Friday and Saturday. Philadelphia has had two snowstorms exceeding 23" this winter. According to the National Climatic Data Center, the return period for a 22+ inch snow storm is once every 100 years--and we've had two 100-year snow storms in Philadelphia this winter. It is true that if the winter pattern of jet stream location, sea surface temperatures, etc, are suitable for a 100-year storm to form, that will increase the chances for a second such storm to occur that same year, and thus the odds have having two 100-year storms the same year are not 1 in 10,000. Still, the two huge snowstorms this winter in the Mid-Atlantic are definitely a very rare event one should see only once every few hundred years, and is something that has not occurred since modern records began in 1870. The situation is similar for Baltimore and Washington D.C. According to the National Climatic Data Center, the expected return period in the Washington D.C./Baltimore region for snowstorms with more than 16 inches of snow is about once every 25 years. This one-two punch of two major Nor'easters in one winter with 16+ inches of snow is unprecedented in the historical record for the region, which goes back to the late 1800s.


Figure 1. Car buried in Virginia by "Snowmageddon" on February 8, 2010. Image credit: wunderphotographer Brabus Cave.

Top 9 snowstorms on record for Philadelphia:

1. 30.7", Jan 7-8, 1996
2. 28.5", Feb 5-6, 2010 (Snowmageddon)
3. 23.2", Dec 19-20, 2009 (Snowpocalypse)
4. 21.3", Feb 11-12, 1983
5. 21.0", Dec 25-26, 1909
6. 19.4", Apr 3-4, 1915
7. 18.9", Feb 12-14, 1899
8. 16.7", Jan 22-24, 1935
9. 15.1", Feb 28-Mar 1, 1941

The top 10 snowstorms on record for Baltimore:

1. 28.2", Feb 15-18, 2003
2. 26.5", Jan 27-29, 1922
3. 24.8", Feb 5-6, 2010 (Snowmageddon)
4. 22.8", Feb 11-12, 1983
5. 22.5", Jan 7-8, 1996
6. 22.0", Mar 29-30, 1942
7. 21.4", Feb 11-14, 1899
8. 21.0", Dec 19-20, 2009 (Snowpocalypse)
9. 20.0", Feb 18-19, 1979
10. 16.0", Mar 15-18, 1892

The top 10 snowstorms on record for Washington, D.C.:

1. 28.0", Jan 27-28, 1922
2. 20.5", Feb 11-13, 1899
3. 18.7", Feb 18-19, 1979
4. 17.8" Feb 5-6, 2010 (Snowmageddon)
5. 17.1", Jan 6-8, 1996
6. 16.7", Feb 15-18, 2003
7. 16.6", Feb 11-12, 1983
8. 16.4", Dec 19-20, 2009 (Snowpocalypse)
9. 14.4", Feb 15-16, 1958
10. 14.4", Feb 7, 1936

Heavy snow events--a contradiction to global warming theory?
Global warming skeptics regularly have a field day whenever a record snow storm pounds the U.S., claiming that such events are inconsistent with a globe that is warming. If the globe is warming, there should, on average, be fewer days when it snows, and thus fewer snow storms. However, it is possible that if climate change is simultaneously causing an increase in ratio of snowstorms with very heavy snow to storms with ordinary amounts of snow, we could actually see an increase in very heavy snowstorms in some portions of the world. There is evidence that this is happening for winter storms in the Northeast U.S.--the mighty Nor'easters like the "Snowmageddon" storm of February 5-6 and "Snowpocalypse" of December 19, 2009. Let's take a look at the evidence. There are two requirements for a record snow storm:

1) A near-record amount of moisture in the air (or a very slow moving storm).
2) Temperatures cold enough for snow.

It's not hard at all to get temperatures cold enough for snow in a world experiencing global warming. According to the 2007 Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) report, the globe warmed 0.74°C (1.3°F) over the past 100 years. There will still be colder than average winters in a world that is experiencing warming, with plenty of opportunities for snow. The more difficult ingredient for producing a record snowstorm is the requirement of near-record levels of moisture. Global warming theory predicts that global precipitation will increase, and that heavy precipitation events--the ones most likely to cause flash flooding--will also increase. This occurs because as the climate warms, evaporation of moisture from the oceans increases, resulting in more water vapor in the air. According to the 2007 Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) report, water vapor in the global atmosphere has increased by about 5% over the 20th century, and 4% since 1970. This extra moisture in the air will tend to produce heavier snowstorms, assuming it is cold enough to snow. Groisman et al. (2004) found a 14% increase in heavy (top 5%) and 20% increase in very heavy (top 1%) precipitation events in the U.S. over the past 100 years, though mainly in spring and summer. However, the authors did find a significant increase in winter heavy precipitation events have occurred in the Northeast U.S. This was echoed by Changnon et al. (2006), who found, "The temporal distribution of snowstorms exhibited wide fluctuations during 1901-2000, with downward 100-yr trends in the lower Midwest, South, and West Coast. Upward trends occurred in the upper Midwest, East, and Northeast, and the national trend for 1901-2000 was upward, corresponding to trends in strong cyclonic activity."

The strongest cold-season storms are likely to become stronger and more frequent for the U.S.
The U.S. Global Change Research Program (USGCRP) began as a presidential initiative in 1989 and was mandated by Congress in the Global Change Research Act of 1990 (P.L. 101-606), which called for "a comprehensive and integrated United States research program which will assist the Nation and the world to understand, assess, predict, and respond to human-induced and natural processes of global change." This program has put out some excellent peer-reviewed science on climate change that, in my view, is as authoritative as the U.N.-sponsored Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) reports. In 2009, the USGCRP put out its excellent U.S. Climate Impacts Report, summarizing the observed and forecast impacts of climate change on the U.S. The report's main conclusion about cold season storms was " Cold-season storm tracks are shifting northward and the strongest storms are likely to become stronger and more frequent".

The report's more detailed analysis: "Large-scale storm systems are the dominant weather phenomenon during the cold season in the United States. Although the analysis of these storms is complicated by a relatively short length of most observational records and by the highly variable nature of strong storms, some clear patterns have emerged (Kunkel et al., 2008).

Storm tracks have shifted northward over the last 50 years as evidenced by a decrease in the frequency of storms in mid-latitude areas of the Northern Hemisphere, while high-latitude activity has increased. There is also evidence of an increase in the intensity of storms in both the mid- and high-latitude areas of the Northern Hemisphere, with greater confidence in the increases occurring in high latitudes (Kunkel et al., 2008). The northward shift is projected to continue, and strong cold season storms are likely to become stronger and more frequent, with greater wind speeds and more extreme wave heights".
The study also noted that we should expect an increase in lake-effect snowstorms over the next few decades. Lake-effect snow is produced by the strong flow of cold air across large areas of relatively warmer ice-free water. The report says, "As the climate has warmed, ice coverage on the Great Lakes has fallen. The maximum seasonal coverage of Great Lakes ice decreased at a rate of 8.4 percent per decade from 1973 through 2008, amounting to a roughly 30 percent decrease in ice coverage. This has created conditions conducive to greater evaporation of moisture and thus heavier snowstorms. Among recent extreme lake-effect snow events was a February 2007 10-day storm total of over 10 feet of snow in western New York state. Climate models suggest that lake-effect snowfalls are likely to increase over the next few decades. In the longer term, lake-effect snows are likely to decrease as temperatures continue to rise, with the precipitation then falling as rain".


Figure 2. The annual average number of snowstorms with a 6 inch (15.2 cm) or greater accumulation, from the years 1901 - 2001. A value of 0.1 means an average of one 6+ inch snowstorm every ten years. Image credit: Changnon, S.A., D. Changnon, and T.R. Karl, 2006, Temporal and Spatial Characteristics of Snowstorms in the Contiguous United States, J. Applied Meteorology and Climatology, 45, 8, pp. 1141-1155, DOI: 10.1175/JAM2395.1.

More heavy snowstorms occur in warmer-than-average years
Another interesting result from the Changnon et al. (2006) paper (Figure 2) is the relationship between heavy snowstorms and the average winter temperature. For the contiguous U.S. between 1900 - 2001, the authors found that 61% - 80% of all heavy snowstorms of 6+ inches occurred during winters with above normal temperatures. In other words, the old adage, "it's too cold to snow", has some truth to it. The authors also found that 61% - 85% of all heavy snowstorms of 6+ inches occurred during winters that were wetter than average. The authors conclude, "a future with wetter and warmer winters, which is one outcome expected (National Assessment Synthesis Team 2001), will bring more heavy snowstorms of 6+ inches than in 1901 - 2000. The authors found that over the U.S. as a whole, there had been a slight but significant increase in heavy snowstorms of 6+ inches between 1901 - 2000. However, a separate paper by Houston and Changnon (2009), "Characteristics of the top ten snowstorms at First-Order Stations in the U.S.", found that there was no upward or downward trend in the very heaviest snowstorms for the contiguous U.S. between 1948 - 2001, as evaluated by looking at the top ten snowstorms for 121 major cities.

Commentary
One can "load the dice" in favor of events that used to be rare--or unheard of--if the climate is changing to a new state. It is quite possible that nature's weather dice have been loaded in favor of more intense Nor'easters for the U.S. Mid-Atlantic and Northeast, thanks to the higher levels of moisture present in the air due to warmer global temperatures. It's worth mentioning that heavy snow storms should be getting increasingly rare for the extreme southern portion of the U.S. in coming decades. There's almost always high amounts of moisture available for a potential heavy snow in the South--just not enough cold air. With freezing temperatures expected to decrease and the jet stream and associated storm track expected to move northward, the extreme southern portion of the U.S. should see a reduction in both heavy and ordinary snow storms in the coming decades.

The CapitalClimate blog has a nice perspective on "Snowmageddon", and Joe Romm of climateprogress.org has some interesting things to say about snowstorms in a warming climate.

References
Changnon, S.A., D. Changnon, and T.R. Karl, 2006, , "Temporal and Spatial Characteristics of Snowstorms in the Contiguous United States", J. Appl. Meteor. Climatol., 45, 1141.1155.

Groisman, P.Y., R.W. Knight, T.R. Karl, D.R. Easterling, B. Sun, and J.H. Lawrimore, 2004, "Contemporary Changes of the Hydrological Cycle over the Contiguous United States: Trends Derived from In Situ Observations," J. Hydrometeor., 5, 64-85.

Kunkel, K.E., P.D. Bromirski, H.E. Brooks, T. Cavazos, A.V. Douglas, D.R. Easterling, K.A. Emanuel, P.Ya. Groisman, G.J. Holland, T.R. Knutson, J.P. Kossin, P.D. Komar, D.H. Levinson, and R.L. Smith, 2008: Observed changes in weather and climate extremes. In: Weather and Climate Extremes in a Changing Climate: Regions of Focus: North America, Hawaii, Caribbean, and U.S. Pacific Islands [Karl, T.R., G.A. Meehl, C.D. Miller, S.J. Hassol, A.M. Waple, and W.L. Murray (eds.)]. Synthesis and Assessment Product 3.3. U.S. Climate Change Science Program, Washington, DC, pp. 35-80.

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1. atmoaggie 3:32 PM GMT en Febrero 08, 2010    
Ummm, thanks Dr. M.

Back in a few days.
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2. tornadofan 3:35 PM GMT en Febrero 08, 2010    
With freezing temperatures expected to decrease and the jet stream and associated storm track expected to move northward, the extreme southern portion of the U.S. should see a reduction in both heavy and ordinary snow storms in the coming decades.

Woo Hoo! That would be great! Cold and snow - two four lettered words.
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3. Bordonaro 3:36 PM GMT en Febrero 08, 2010    
Poor Northeast, Mid-Atlantic and New England! Round III coming up. It would be amazing if they have another 12-18" of snow!!
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4. Floridano 3:37 PM GMT en Febrero 08, 2010    
Gracias, Dr. M! Buen dia, :).
5. atmoaggie 3:38 PM GMT en Febrero 08, 2010    
Quoting TampaSpin:


I agree that half time show was miserable to listen to......i was hoping for another wardrobe malfunction on stage and had them dragged off. I don't think a single musical key note was hit during the entire pathetic performance......that was horrible.

I have seen far worse by modern, mainstream musicians in the prime of their lives after paying a lot of money to see them play...

Really out, now. Enjoy the fear-posts to come...
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6. TampaSpin 3:39 PM GMT en Febrero 08, 2010    
Dr. Great Spin on Global Warming....LOL
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7. mikester 3:39 PM GMT en Febrero 08, 2010    
Yes but finally looking like nystate syracuse southward is gonna be right the heart of it. And seeing how i am southeast of them even more snow for me. Looks like it might hit just north of dc so they may not get a huge amount of snow.
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8. TampaSpin 3:40 PM GMT en Febrero 08, 2010    
Round # heck i forgot what # this is now....but here it goes again for the MidAtlantic and East Coast....



The Low in NE gets blocked and does not move.....Long peroid of Cold Air coming South i looks again....


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9. Floodman 3:41 PM GMT en Febrero 08, 2010    
Thank you, Dr. Masters for your take on this situation. As always, a thoughtful entry!
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10. NEwxguy 3:42 PM GMT en Febrero 08, 2010    
Quoting Bordonaro:
Poor Northeast, Mid-Atlantic and New England! Round III coming up. It would be amazing if they have another 12-18" of snow!!


Round three for mid-atlantic and parts of the northeast,but we've lucked out up here in New England,but our luck is about to run out.
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11. indianrivguy 3:43 PM GMT en Febrero 08, 2010    
Thanks Doc!
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12. mikester 3:48 PM GMT en Febrero 08, 2010    
So according to dr.masters remarks the northeast aka nystate/vermont/pa/maine to name a few are going to have stronger winter storms and will this mean our winters we become longer? I love snow in the winter but i don't want it around in june/july. Also could mean this snow storm coming up could also by a record breaker for central ny?
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13. IKE 3:54 PM GMT en Febrero 08, 2010    
Quoting atmoaggie:
Ummm, thanks Dr. M.

Back in a few days.


LOL...I hear ya!
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14. PensacolaDoug 4:01 PM GMT en Febrero 08, 2010    
Last few years we've had less snow and warmer temps in the mid atl and NE and that was agw, this year lots of snow and cold blamed for the same reason. No wonder folks are skeptical.
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15. TampaTom 4:02 PM GMT en Febrero 08, 2010    
Wow... Imagine the new snow is the Maryland Suburbs of DC... 35"+ on the ground and add another 12 - 18... They will need sled dogs!
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16. PensacolaDoug 4:03 PM GMT en Febrero 08, 2010    
Quoting TampaTom:
Wow... Imagine the new snow is the Maryland Suburbs of DC... 35"+ on the ground and add another 12 - 18... They will need sled dogs!



Imagine how much it would be if wasn't for you-know -what! (sic)
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17. TampaSpin 4:03 PM GMT en Febrero 08, 2010    
Quoting PensacolaDoug:
Last few years we've had less snow and warmer temps in the mid atl and NE and that was agw, this year lots of snow and cold blamed for the same reason. No wonder folks are skeptical.


Doug...its always a spin my friend from both sides? One never knows what to believe except to know that it has all happend in the past without man being around.
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18. breald 4:05 PM GMT en Febrero 08, 2010    
All I am going to say about the whole global warming thing is; When I was a kid growing up in southern new England, every year we would be able to ice skate on the local ponds from Jan-March. This is not possible to do and has not been for a very long time.

It might sound very stupid because I don't have a bunch of charts to use as an observation. Just my own experience.
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19. Ossqss 4:05 PM GMT en Febrero 08, 2010    
Quoting PensacolaDoug:
Last few years we've had less snow and warmer temps in the mid atl and NE and that was agw, this year lots of snow and cold blamed for the same reason. No wonder folks are skeptical.




I never thought I would miss Hurricane Season >>>>>>
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20. TampaSpin 4:05 PM GMT en Febrero 08, 2010    
Quoting TampaTom:
Wow... Imagine the new snow is the Maryland Suburbs of DC... 35"+ on the ground and add another 12 - 18... They will need sled dogs!


Worse yet will be the amount of inland flooding that is yet to come. Wait tell a rainstorm runs through with rapid melting occurring.....this could really be bad.
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21. PensacolaDoug 4:07 PM GMT en Febrero 08, 2010    
Quoting Ossqss:




I never thought I would miss Hurricane Season >>>>>>



Too funny!
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22. breald 4:12 PM GMT en Febrero 08, 2010    
Quoting PensacolaDoug:
Last few years we've had less snow and warmer temps in the mid atl and NE and that was agw, this year lots of snow and cold blamed for the same reason. No wonder folks are skeptical.


And actually, I can remember winters being much more snowy and cold growing up as well. Every year we would have to makeup snow days at the end of the year. Sometimes not getting out of school until the very end of June. My nieces and nephews had not had that experience.
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24. Dr. Jeff Masters, Director of Meteorology (Admin)
4:23 PM GMT en Febrero 08, 2010
   
Quoting mikester:
So according to dr.masters remarks the northeast aka nystate/vermont/pa/maine to name a few are going to have stronger winter storms and will this mean our winters we become longer? I love snow in the winter but i don't want it around in june/july. Also could mean this snow storm coming up could also by a record breaker for central ny?


No, winters should be getting shorter. In fact, that has been observed, with the frost-free period over most of the U.S. getting longer in recent decades. We expect the incidence of wet, strong low pressure systems to increase, and this likely means an increased incidence of record heavy snowfalls where it is cold enough to snow.

Jeff Masters
25. mikester 4:26 PM GMT en Febrero 08, 2010    
OK thanks masters.
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26. AwakeInMaryland 4:28 PM GMT en Febrero 08, 2010    
Quoting TampaTom:
Wow... Imagine the new snow is the Maryland Suburbs of DC... 35"+ on the ground and add another 12 - 18... They will need sled dogs!

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28. Bordonaro 4:30 PM GMT en Febrero 08, 2010    
Just a general statement, New York City, Central Park had a longer growing season (257 days) than the Dallas-Ft Worth Int'l AP (248 days) site last year.

In general the freeze free period in the USA has gradually increased a few days or more over the last few decades, especially over the Northern US.
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29. Refracto 4:35 PM GMT en Febrero 08, 2010    
Hey Dr Masters, doesn't a gradual increase in winter snow cover allow for more of a reflective surface for the sun's heat/radiation? Thanks!
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30. TampaSpin 4:35 PM GMT en Febrero 08, 2010    
Quoting Bordonaro:
Just a general statement, New York City, Central Park had a longer growing season (257 days) than the Dallas-Ft Worth Int'l AP (248 days) site last year.

In general the freeze free period in the USA has gradually increased a few days or more over the last few decades, especially over the Northern US.


If That is a fact wouldn't that contradict what Dr. Masters just stated.
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31. Bordonaro 4:40 PM GMT en Febrero 08, 2010    
Quoting TampaSpin:


If That is a fact wouldn't that contradict what Dr. Masters just stated.

No I agree with what Dr Masters stated
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32. breald 4:42 PM GMT en Febrero 08, 2010    
Quoting TampaSpin:


If That is a fact wouldn't that contradict what Dr. Masters just stated.


Dr Master's said winters will get shorter. Which is what he is stating as well.
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33. pcbdragon 4:44 PM GMT en Febrero 08, 2010    
rapid increase in ocean acidity?
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34. TampaSpin 4:45 PM GMT en Febrero 08, 2010    
Quoting breald:


Dr Master's said winters will get shorter. Which is what he is stating as well.


Sorry my bad i misread what he said....freeze free period....sorry.
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35. breald 4:48 PM GMT en Febrero 08, 2010    
Quoting TampaSpin:


Sorry my bad i misread what he said....freeze free period....sorry.


Trust me we all do that.

Have a good afternoon spin. BTW, I really like your blog during hurricane season.
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36. pcbdragon 4:52 PM GMT en Febrero 08, 2010    
Link
here is an article on it
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37. PhilipDeLaneyWV 4:55 PM GMT en Febrero 08, 2010    
I had understood that in a transition period (as the climate seems to be moving to warmer temperatures), the resulting instability of weather patterns would bring an increase of severe weather events. Is this also a component of what is occuring, or an associated phenomonon (i.e., increase moisture carry capacity leading to more severe storms)?

Your blog is wonderful as always!

Phil DeLaney
Lousiville, KY
38. TampaSpin 4:55 PM GMT en Febrero 08, 2010    
Quoting breald:


Trust me we all do that.

Have a good afternoon spin. BTW, I really like your blog during hurricane season.


Thanks its nice to have the downtime and to have StormW as a feature to help me......He is really good at what he does.
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39. HurricaneHunterGal 5:02 PM GMT en Febrero 08, 2010    
Quoting TampaSpin:


If That is a fact wouldn't that contradict what Dr. Masters just stated.
No, that also states that the growing season is longer, making the winters shorter. He is backing up Dr. Masters.
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40. HurricaneHunterGal 5:03 PM GMT en Febrero 08, 2010    
Quoting TampaSpin:


Sorry my bad i misread what he said....freeze free period....sorry.
Whoops didnt see this before I posted. Yeah, we all do it :-)
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41. TheCaneWhisperer 5:04 PM GMT en Febrero 08, 2010    
Quoting CycloneOz:


So, this next one will be known as the "Freezeostrophe"???


Or "Snowaclysmic" even.
42. jeffs713 5:05 PM GMT en Febrero 08, 2010    
Quoting JeffMasters:


Congratulations, New Orleans!
Congratulations to everyone in New Orleans, for the Saints' Super Bowl victory! It's great to the see the city celebrating after enduring so many years of hardship in the wake of Hurricane Katrina.

Who Dat!

One question (that is weather-related)... was it just me, or did the field for the game seem very damp and wet? Was there rain right before the game or something?
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43. Patrap 5:08 PM GMT en Febrero 08, 2010    
Ahh..to awake after sleeping in after the Victory..

Off to the Airport to be with the crowd to welcome da Boyz Home with the trophy @ 2pm CDT.

Mission Accomplished.....!!!!!
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44. Floodman 5:08 PM GMT en Febrero 08, 2010    
In central Missouri planted crops are ripening earlier as the warm weather starts earlier. As a kid (the 1960s), tomatoes typically came ripe in the first two weeks of July; they are now ripe by the 3rd-4th week of June...an indication of shorter winters and longer summers (temp wise).

It's just anecdotal evidence and yes, it may only be a cycle, but on the face of it...
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45. CaneWarning 5:10 PM GMT en Febrero 08, 2010    
Wow, who knew Global Warming could cause these huge snow storms. I am afraid Global Warming may just cause another Ice Age.
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46. CaneWarning 5:12 PM GMT en Febrero 08, 2010    
I find it interesting that India dropped out from the IPCC. They said AGW has become "climate evangelism".
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47. Patrap 5:13 PM GMT en Febrero 08, 2010    
A lot of folks may not know that Vince Lombardi's Grandson is the Saints QB coach,..Tom Lombardi.

So today is very Special for us here in many ways.


Here's the Front Page of todays Times Picayune ..


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48. beell 5:13 PM GMT en Febrero 08, 2010    
Near Surface wet bulb temp
(heavy dashed blue line - freezing



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51. CaneWarning 5:18 PM GMT en Febrero 08, 2010    
Quoting CycloneOz:
New federal climate change agency forming

Let's see. A new federal bureaucracy is being formed to study "climate." It is being established by direct request of the President.

If funding for it is provided by "the government," I wonder how skewed their results will be to "the beliefs" of those providing the funding.

Example: The majority of federal legislators believe that GW / CC is a top priority problem. This new agency needs funding from them to grow into all that it can be. What do you think the odds are that this service's reports will be heavily weighted towards the positions of the legislators instead of being unbiased? 98%? 99%?



Try 100%
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