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Fred is dead; the Atlantic is quiet
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 1:16 PM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2009 +4
Hurricane Fred is dead, thanks to strong wind shear that finished tearing the storm apart yesterday. While the remains of Fred have generated a burst of heavy thunderstorms this morning, prohibitively high wind shear of 40 - 50 knots today through Monday will prevent regeneration, and should be able to completely disrupt the remnant circulation of Fred.

A tropical wave about 200 miles southeast of the Cape Verdes Islands, just off the coast of Africa, remains disorganized. This morning's QuikSCAT pass showed an elongated circulation, and one spot of 45 mph winds in the small clump of heavy thunderstorms on the south side of the circulation. The wave is under about 20 knots of wind shear, and may show some slow development beginning Monday, when the shear should drop below 20 knots. NHC is giving this system a low (less than 30% chance) or developing into a tropical depression by Tuesday.

A low pressure system that was over the Texas Gulf of Mexico coast has moved inland, and is not a threat to develop into a tropical cyclone. Tropical storm development is possible this week along a frontal zone stretching from Florida to the waters between the Bahamas and North Carolina. However, wind shear will be relatively high in this region, and anything that develops may end up being extratropical in nature.


Figure 1. The remains of Tropical Storm Fred (left) appear as a swirl of low-level clouds with a clump of heavy thunderstorm activity on the north side. A new tropical disturbance near the coast of Africa is disorganized, due to 20 knots of wind shear.

Twenty years ago on this date
On September 13, 1989, Tropical Storm Hugo continued its westward march at 20 mph towards the Lesser Antilles Islands. Shortly after midnight on the 13th, satellite analysts at the National Hurricane Center noted a Central Dense Overcast (CDO) of thick cirrus clouds was forming over the center. The CDO was evidence that Hugo was beginning to build an eyewall. The thunderstorms in the eyewall were now powerful enough to lift large amounts of moisture 45,000 feet high, where the stable air of the stratosphere lay. Unable to penetrate into the stratosphere, the air lifted by Hugo's thunderstorms was forced to spread outward into a thick, circular layer of cirrus clouds--the CDO--that hid the storm's core. The mystery of what was happening beneath the Central Dense Overcast became apparent a few hours later, when a murky eye appeared. At 8 am EDT on the 13th, the National Hurricane Center upgraded Hugo to hurricane status.

At NOAA's Office of Aircraft Operations--the hurricane hunting division of NOAA--we busily prepared for tomorrow's deployment to Barbados of both of our P-3 Orion hurricane hunting aircraft. There were dropsondes and Air-Expendable Bathythermographs to load, computer checks to make, and calibration data to load. We chatted excitedly about the new hurricane that looked like an excellent case study for the hurricane scientists. But there was also an undercurrent of uneasiness to our cheerful preparations. We knew that a Cape Verdes-type hurricane like Hugo that was still 2 - 3 days from the Lesser Antilles would probably kill a lot of people--perhaps even close to home, here in Florida.

In a letter I wrote that night to my soon-to-be-fiancee, Diane, in Michigan, I said: "Well, that dark enveloping death feeling is back again, much stronger than before. I know Hugo the hurricane will kill people and I feel it coming close to here".


Figure 2. GOES visible satellite image of Hurricane Hugo taken on September 13, 1989. Image credit: Google Earth rendition of the NOAA HURSAT data base.

Jeff Masters


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301. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 8:46 PM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2009    
some info i found

Ryan Maue's Seasonal Tropical Cyclone Activity Update


September 11: After two years (2007-2008) of dramatically below normal Northern Hemisphere and Global hurricane activity, 2009 has actually (year-to-date) managed LESS Accmulated Cyclone Energy! 2009 is currently the second slowest Northern Hemisphere ACE year-to-date behind 1981 in the past 30-years. Here is a text list of the previous September 11 to-date totals for NH ACE. LIST

Note: While the best-track data quality is significantly poorer prior to 1979, only 1973 and 1977 had less Northern Hemisphere ACE since 1959 than 2009. Indeed, the 1960s were very active in the Western Pacific


September 7: As the peak of the Northern Hemisphere Season approaches, activity globally has become uncharacteristically quiet. The global forecast models are predicting several hurricane formations but so far nothing has panned out. The climatological ACE for the NH (thru Sept 7, based upon 1979-2008 averages) is 282. Currently the NH ACE is 188. Here is a text list of the previous September 7 to-date totals for NH ACE. LIST


Northern Hemisphere ACE through September 7

1979 252.205
1980 261.442
1981 174.685
1982 342.506
1983 237.615
1984 244.547
1985 313.388
1986 245.140
1987 309.823
1988 218.174
1989 293.777
1990 361.638
1991 258.850
1992 421.380
1993 359.823
1994 387.955
1995 301.628
1996 366.117
1997 395.803
1998 221.305
1999 230.620
2000 292.740
2001 241.100
2002 397.985
2003 317.520
2004 495.683
2005 365.705
2006 311.025
2007 237.020
2008 279.615
2009 206.080

AVERAGES: (1979-2008)
EPAC WPAC IO ATL NH
88.2770 155.691 7.00692 53.5851 304.560


2009 is currently at 68% of normal and is so far the second slowest ACE year in the past 30-years (1981 at 174 is less)

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302. CybrTeddy 8:46 PM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2009    
A Special TWO has just been issued on ex-Fred, up to Orange alert. That was unexpected.

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303. taco2me61 8:46 PM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2009    
Quoting Tazmanian:
Fred is dead

the blog is dead

hurricane season is dead


the E PAC is where you need too watch if you want too track name storms and the W PAC


Ok Taz listen you donot live on the Gulf Coast and nor the Atlantic Coast..... Hurricane Season does not end untill Nov 30. We that live here cannot say it is over.... There is still a possible chance for just 1 to hit and I mean anywhere on either coast..... Now you have been here for a long time as myself.... With all due respect there still going to have a storm form sometime this week from the stalled front thats in the GOM going over Florida..... So Please stop saying that untill November 30th.... OK

Taco :0)
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304. weathermancer 8:46 PM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2009    
Dunno. Is Freddy now a Zombie or a Vampire?
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306. IKE 8:47 PM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2009    
Quoting help4u:
agree,taz.this season is over.Stick a fork in it.vbg


You might want to take that fork out.

LMAO!
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307. Dakster 8:48 PM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2009    
Attention Wunderground Bloggers, we have a Code ORANGE in the Eastern Atlantic...

Repeat. We have a Code ORANGE in the Eastern Atlantic.

How's that for exciting???
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310. Tazmanian 8:49 PM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2009    
oh ok



but if i trun out to be right by OCT 15th then am going to say i was right all a long
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311. JLPR 8:49 PM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2009    
Quoting CybrTeddy:
A Special TWO has just been issued on ex-Fred, up to Orange alert. That was unexpected.



well yep
this is interesting
wasn't expecting a special update
so they think it looks good? xD
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312. CybrTeddy 8:49 PM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2009    
Quoting IKE:


You might want to take that fork out.

LMAO!


Yea, his logic was pretty much slaughtered just now. 'Season over season over!' then the NHC issues a special TWO upping Ex-Fred to Orange alert.
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313. 21N71W 8:49 PM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2009    
FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

SPECIAL OUTLOOK ISSUED FOR THE REMNANTS OF FRED.

1. UPDATED...SHOWER AND THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY HAS INCREASED TO THE
NORTH OF THE CENTER OF THE REMNANT CIRCULATION OF FRED...WHICH IS
LOCATED ABOUT 700 MILES WEST-NORTHWEST OF THE NORTHERNMOST CAPE
VERDE ISLANDS. WHILE UPPER-LEVEL WINDS ARE EXPECTED TO REMAIN
UNFAVORABLE FOR RE-DEVELOPMENT AS THIS SYSTEM MOVES SLOWLY WESTWARD
OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS...REGENERATION INTO A TROPICAL CYCLONE
IS POSSIBLE IF SHOWER AND THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY CONTINUES TO BECOME
BETTER ORGANIZED. THERE IS A MEDIUM CHANCE...30 TO 50 PERCENT...OF
THIS SYSTEM BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS.
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314. Tazmanian 8:49 PM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2009    
306. IKE 1:47 PM PDT on September 13, 2009 Hide this comment.

Quoting help4u:
agree,taz.this season is over.Stick a fork in it.vbg



You might want to take that fork out.

LMAO!


lol
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315. JLPR 8:49 PM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2009    
Quoting Tazmanian:
oh ok



but if i trun out to be right by OCT 15th then am going to say i was right all a long


if your wrong will you admit it =]?
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317. Tazmanian 8:50 PM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2009    
its under 50kt of shear lol
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318. HIEXPRESS 8:51 PM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2009    
Quoting Tazmanian:
...as far has i no of there has nevere been a hurricane in OCT in a EL Nino year


http://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/at19638.asp
There's one. And in an ENSO| Analog year.
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319. Tazmanian 8:51 PM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2009    
315. JLPR 1:49 PM PDT on September 13, 2009 Hide this comment.

Quoting Tazmanian:
oh ok



but if i trun out to be right by OCT 15th then am going to say i was right all a long



if your wrong will you admit it =]?


yup feel free too save that commet on your not pad
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322. ElConando 8:53 PM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2009    
Quoting IKE:
If this verifies, this should just about finish it for the northern GOM. I sense a major pattern change coming....

6-10 day temperature outlook....




and the 8-14 day temperature outlook which just about gets it to October....



Woah. I hope that won't a permanent pattern for the Fall/Winter Season. Or it is going to be pretty chilly. I don't care if el nino makes it less likely for Frost,rain, etc. I hate the cold as do many Floridians.
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323. Tazmanian 8:53 PM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2009    
318. HIEXPRESS 1:51 PM PDT on September 13, 2009 Hide this comment.

Quoting Tazmanian:
...as far has i no of there has nevere been a hurricane in OCT in a EL Nino year



http://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/at19638.asp
There's one. And in an ENSO| Analog year


oh cool and what kind of a track you called that
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324. JLPR 8:53 PM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2009    
Quoting Tazmanian:
315. JLPR 1:49 PM PDT on September 13, 2009 Hide this comment.

Quoting Tazmanian:
oh ok



but if i trun out to be right by OCT 15th then am going to say i was right all a long



if your wrong will you admit it =]?


yup feel free too save that commet on your not pad


sure, will do XD
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325. Bordonaro 8:53 PM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2009    
Quoting antonio28:
000
ABNT20 KNHC 132035
TWOAT
SPECIAL TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
435 PM EDT SUN SEP 13 2009

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

SPECIAL OUTLOOK ISSUED FOR THE REMNANTS OF FRED.

UPDATED...SHOWER AND THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY HAS INCREASED TO THE
NORTH OF THE CENTER OF THE REMNANT CIRCULATION OF FRED...WHICH IS
LOCATED ABOUT 700 MILES WEST-NORTHWEST OF THE NORTHERNMOST CAPE
VERDE ISLANDS. WHILE UPPER-LEVEL WINDS ARE EXPECTED TO REMAIN
UNFAVORABLE FOR RE-DEVELOPMENT AS THIS SYSTEM MOVES SLOWLY WESTWARD
OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS...REGENERATION INTO A TROPICAL CYCLONE
IS POSSIBLE IF SHOWER AND THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY CONTINUES TO BECOME
BETTER ORGANIZED. THERE IS A MEDIUM CHANCE...30 TO 50 PERCENT...OF
THIS SYSTEM BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS.

ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.

$$
FORECASTER BRENNAN


One thing about meteorology I love is that SOMETIMES it's just unpredictable!! Poor Fred, died and not the NHC said there's a MEDIUM chance he may return to life!! Gotta love it!!

Any recent model runs out yet, that are more credible than playing the roulette wheel in Vegas????
SmileyCentral.com
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326. HIEXPRESS 8:54 PM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2009    
Quoting CybrTeddy:
A Special TWO has just been issued on ex-Fred, up to Orange alert. That was unexpected.



It's all this talk about Hugo.
They stubbed their TWO.
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328. Patrap 8:54 PM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2009    
As per the obs a front may shut done the GOM..the same front/fronts thru Sept into October,can spawn Tropical Development from Cyclogenesis,of the Hanging tail of said fronts,in that GOM.


Thats why the Season has a end date of Nov 30th.
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329. ElConando 8:54 PM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2009    
To upgrade it to orange something in its future outlook seems somewhat good. Because if it was doing that under 40-50 kt shear NHC would not even care.
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330. Tazmanian 8:55 PM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2009    
dran you fat Quote work why wont you
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331. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 8:56 PM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2009    
Quoting Tazmanian:
292. Hurricane009 1:42 PM PDT on September 13, 2009 Hide this comment.

Quoting help4u:
agree,taz.this season is over.Stick a fork in it.vbg


SEASON IS NOT OVER


yes its is its overe. for the USA like IKE said major pattern change coming....
local forecasts are indicating a significant cool down coming by next weekend for entire eastern half of north america and the first outflow coming off gulf coasts and fla pens if things pan out by th 21 of sept highs will be mid 60,s and low high 30's low 40's for grt lakes region south fall coming soon 7 days till the first of autumn and it looks like thats what it will be
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332. Tazmanian 8:56 PM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2009    
324. JLPR 1:53 PM PDT on September 13, 2009 Hide this comment.

Quoting Tazmanian:
315. JLPR 1:49 PM PDT on September 13, 2009 Hide this comment.

Quoting Tazmanian:
oh ok



but if i trun out to be right by OCT 15th then am going to say i was right all a long



if your wrong will you admit it =]?


yup feel free too save that commet on your not pad



sure, will do XD

ok
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334. Tazmanian 8:57 PM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2009    
331. KEEPEROFTHEGATE 1:56 PM PDT on September 13, 2009 Hide this comment.

Quoting Tazmanian:
292. Hurricane009 1:42 PM PDT on September 13, 2009 Hide this comment.

Quoting help4u:
agree,taz.this season is over.Stick a fork in it.vbg


SEASON IS NOT OVER


yes its is its overe. for the USA like IKE said major pattern change coming....

local forecasts are indicating a significant cool down coming by next weekend for entire eastern half of north america and the first outflow coming off gulf coasts and fla pens if things pan out by th 21 of sept highs will be mid 60,s and low high 30's low 40's for grt lakes region south fall coming soon 7 days till the first of autumn and it looks like thats what it will be


cool may be the 1st snow??
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335. HIEXPRESS 8:59 PM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2009    
Quoting Tazmanian:
318. HIEXPRESS 1:51 PM PDT on September 13, 2009 Hide this comment.

Quoting Tazmanian:
...as far has i no of there has nevere been a hurricane in OCT in a EL Nino year



http://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/at19638.asp
There's one. And in an ENSO| Analog year


oh cool and what kind of a track you called that

It's called "nobody's posting in caps".
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336. Tazmanian 8:59 PM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2009    
oh WOW this is the last week of summer and this is the last weekend of summer that where on now
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338. weathermancer 9:00 PM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2009    
Quoting Bordonaro:


One thing about meteorology I love is that SOMETIMES it's just unpredictable!! Poor Fred, died and not the NHC said there's a MEDIUM chance he may return to life!! Gotta love it!!

Any recent model runs out yet, that are more credible than playing the roulette wheel in Vegas????
SmileyCentral.com


I agree... Computer Models are digital in their thinking. Weather - climate - storms - and hurricanes, are still thinking in Analog. Got the computers beat by at least 1000 years.

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339. Dakster 9:00 PM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2009    
Bordonaro - Nope. Vegas has better odds.
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340. Patrap 9:00 PM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2009    
As per Fred..never discount a CV remnant with a good surface circ,..and to be sure..the Shear is/was ALOFT,not at the surface level and slightly above where the Swirl remains.



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341. largeeyes 9:01 PM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2009    
BRRRRRRRRRRRRR. Water temp here at Atlantic Beach, NC has dropped from 79-81 the last few weeks to 74. I say again. Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
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342. IKE 9:04 PM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2009    
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
local forecasts are indicating a significant cool down coming by next weekend for entire eastern half of north america and the first outflow coming off gulf coasts and fla pens if things pan out by th 21 of sept highs will be mid 60,s and low high 30's low 40's for grt lakes region south fall coming soon 7 days till the first of autumn and it looks like thats what it will be


Agree.

I was just looking at St. Louis,Missouri extended discussion....

"FOR THE EXTENDED PERIOD FROM THURS INTO NEXT WEEKEND I HAVE
TRENDED THE FCST TOWARDS A ECMWF AND GFS ENSEMBLE MEAN BLEND...OF
AN AMPLIFYING ERN U.S. TROF.
THIS WOULD SUGGEST A COLD FROPA IN
THE FRI/SAT TIME FRAME AND A DECENT SHOT OF COOL AIR. HOWEVER I
HAVE BEEN CONSERVATIVE AT THIS POINT WITH THE AMOUNT OF COOLING...
DUE TO INHERENT UNCERTAINTY AT THESE TIME RANGES AND DUE TO POOR
MODEL PERFORMANCE AS OF LATE."


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343. JLPR 9:04 PM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2009    
Quoting Patrap:
As per Fred..never discount a CV remnant with a good surface circ,..and to be sure..the Shear is/was ALOFT,not at the surface level and slightly above where the Swirl remains.





yep and a CV remnant that is at a relatively low latitude, ex-Fred is looking suspicious
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344. ElConando 9:04 PM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2009    
Just wondering does FF3 have a feature like the new i.e.'s that allows to click open new tabs quickly?
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345. hydrus 9:05 PM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2009    
Quoting HIEXPRESS:


It's all this talk about Hugo.
They stubbed their TWO.
lol.
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346. taco2me61 9:06 PM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2009    
Quoting Patrap:
As per Fred..never discount a CV remnant with a good surface circ,..and to be sure..the Shear is/was ALOFT,not at the surface level and slightly above where the Swirl remains.





Patrap just wondering while I watch what was Fred, does the NHC even know what this thing is going to do????
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347. hydrus 9:06 PM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2009    
Quoting taco2me61:


Ok Taz listen you donot live on the Gulf Coast and nor the Atlantic Coast..... Hurricane Season does not end untill Nov 30. We that live here cannot say it is over.... There is still a possible chance for just 1 to hit and I mean anywhere on either coast..... Now you have been here for a long time as myself.... With all due respect there still going to have a storm form sometime this week from the stalled front thats in the GOM going over Florida..... So Please stop saying that untill November 30th.... OK

Taco :0)
A very good chance!!
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348. Cavin Rawlins 9:06 PM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2009    
Fred is dead?

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350. RitaEvac 9:09 PM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2009    
Fred was never dead anyway, why Masters says that shows he's not that good, I don't listen to him that much anyway, rather hear from others in here.
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351. HIEXPRESS 9:09 PM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2009    
Quoting IKE:


Agree.

I was just looking at St. Louis,Missouri extended discussion....

"...A COLD FROPA..."



Beverages from the sky?
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