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Fred is dead; the Atlantic is quiet
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 1:16 PM GMT en Septiembre 13, 2009 +4
Hurricane Fred is dead, thanks to strong wind shear that finished tearing the storm apart yesterday. While the remains of Fred have generated a burst of heavy thunderstorms this morning, prohibitively high wind shear of 40 - 50 knots today through Monday will prevent regeneration, and should be able to completely disrupt the remnant circulation of Fred.

A tropical wave about 200 miles southeast of the Cape Verdes Islands, just off the coast of Africa, remains disorganized. This morning's QuikSCAT pass showed an elongated circulation, and one spot of 45 mph winds in the small clump of heavy thunderstorms on the south side of the circulation. The wave is under about 20 knots of wind shear, and may show some slow development beginning Monday, when the shear should drop below 20 knots. NHC is giving this system a low (less than 30% chance) or developing into a tropical depression by Tuesday.

A low pressure system that was over the Texas Gulf of Mexico coast has moved inland, and is not a threat to develop into a tropical cyclone. Tropical storm development is possible this week along a frontal zone stretching from Florida to the waters between the Bahamas and North Carolina. However, wind shear will be relatively high in this region, and anything that develops may end up being extratropical in nature.


Figure 1. The remains of Tropical Storm Fred (left) appear as a swirl of low-level clouds with a clump of heavy thunderstorm activity on the north side. A new tropical disturbance near the coast of Africa is disorganized, due to 20 knots of wind shear.

Twenty years ago on this date
On September 13, 1989, Tropical Storm Hugo continued its westward march at 20 mph towards the Lesser Antilles Islands. Shortly after midnight on the 13th, satellite analysts at the National Hurricane Center noted a Central Dense Overcast (CDO) of thick cirrus clouds was forming over the center. The CDO was evidence that Hugo was beginning to build an eyewall. The thunderstorms in the eyewall were now powerful enough to lift large amounts of moisture 45,000 feet high, where the stable air of the stratosphere lay. Unable to penetrate into the stratosphere, the air lifted by Hugo's thunderstorms was forced to spread outward into a thick, circular layer of cirrus clouds--the CDO--that hid the storm's core. The mystery of what was happening beneath the Central Dense Overcast became apparent a few hours later, when a murky eye appeared. At 8 am EDT on the 13th, the National Hurricane Center upgraded Hugo to hurricane status.

At NOAA's Office of Aircraft Operations--the hurricane hunting division of NOAA--we busily prepared for tomorrow's deployment to Barbados of both of our P-3 Orion hurricane hunting aircraft. There were dropsondes and Air-Expendable Bathythermographs to load, computer checks to make, and calibration data to load. We chatted excitedly about the new hurricane that looked like an excellent case study for the hurricane scientists. But there was also an undercurrent of uneasiness to our cheerful preparations. We knew that a Cape Verdes-type hurricane like Hugo that was still 2 - 3 days from the Lesser Antilles would probably kill a lot of people--perhaps even close to home, here in Florida.

In a letter I wrote that night to my soon-to-be-fiancee, Diane, in Michigan, I said: "Well, that dark enveloping death feeling is back again, much stronger than before. I know Hugo the hurricane will kill people and I feel it coming close to here".


Figure 2. GOES visible satellite image of Hurricane Hugo taken on September 13, 1989. Image credit: Google Earth rendition of the NOAA HURSAT data base.

Jeff Masters


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651. cyclonekid 12:23 AM GMT en Septiembre 14, 2009    
Latest Image of Choiwan

Eye is POPPING!!!!
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652. jurakantaino 12:24 AM GMT en Septiembre 14, 2009    
Quoting JLPR:
I see Fred is till trying
buy its convection remains a comet xD
and its weakening but lets wait and see what happens to d-max tonight, maybe it manages to cover its center temporarily tonight


Fred will have his ups and downs, in the next 24 hours but it seems that the NHC is coming back with him,we will see...
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654. BahaHurican 12:26 AM GMT en Septiembre 14, 2009    
Quoting hurricane23:
18z GFS really does not do much with what was fred,upper conditions(could)become somewhat favorable but regardless dont see this makeing the long trek.

adrian
I could see it making the trek.... in its current weakened form it might scrape through some of the hazards. I have a harder time seeing conditions ease out enough for it to make a serious run on major hurricane, or even hurricane, for that matter.
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655. tornadodude 12:25 AM GMT en Septiembre 14, 2009    
Quoting StormW:


I really don't think we are going to see any re-generation. Shear forecast calls for at least another 72 hours of shear, and by the time it got to where winds are supposed to relax, it would be under the influence of a trof.


ahh, ok, thank you Storm, much appreciated!
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656. MiamiHurricanes09 12:25 AM GMT en Septiembre 14, 2009    
Good Evening!

As we are watching 07L, I believe we will see regeneration in less than 144 hours. As far as where 07L will end up is, if it stays weak (a pressure between 1000 to 1009 millibars) then 07L should continue W and then somewhat WSW at around 45W and then curve out to sea at around 65W IF it stays weak. IF 07L strengthens back to a hurricane or at least an intense tropical storm, then the Caribbean and the eastern U.S coast should monitor this, and yes I do know that 07L is too far to know for sure were it will end up. But for now, there is still a possibility that 07L will not become anything and will die out.

-MiamiHurricanes09
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657. GeoffreyWPB 12:26 AM GMT en Septiembre 14, 2009    
Quoting hurricane23:
18z GFS really does not do much with what was fred,upper conditions(could)become somewhat favorable but regardless dont see this makeing the long trek.

adrian


Agree. It seems like we have been talking about Fred for a long time. And it is still relatively close to the CV Islands. The remnants still have a long haul to affect any land mass.
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660. tornadodude 12:28 AM GMT en Septiembre 14, 2009    
Quoting iceman55:
mmm white cheddar popcorn


good stuff, I just had taco bell :P
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661. Ameister12 12:29 AM GMT en Septiembre 14, 2009    
Choi-Wan is looking like a strong category 2.
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663. Seasidecove 12:31 AM GMT en Septiembre 14, 2009    
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Thank you for your time and thoughts on how to make this a toolbar that could benefit everyone.

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If this is well recieved I will make additional Toolbars for both FL. and TX.

-Reposted from earlier today.
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664. Cavin Rawlins 12:31 AM GMT en Septiembre 14, 2009    
Quoting Ameister12:
Choi-Wan is looking like a strong category 2.


the storm has really done some banding over the past few hrs, with the western eyewall completing the eye formation.
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666. tornadodude 12:32 AM GMT en Septiembre 14, 2009    
Quoting iceman55:
taco bell is fat all that


for sure haha i love it, it is cheap, and good xD
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667. Dakster 12:33 AM GMT en Septiembre 14, 2009    
Lt. Colonel StormW - Have you looked at the MJO forecast.. GFS has Octet 2 in the future...

I'm trying to promote you from within your organization.
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669. Ameister12 12:34 AM GMT en Septiembre 14, 2009    
Thunderstorm activity to the north of ex-Fred has decreased a little.

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670. BahaHurican 12:34 AM GMT en Septiembre 14, 2009    
Quoting hurricaneseason2006:
Me thinks that Drak should go back to lurking. .
Please stop attacking other bloggers!!!

Admin Notice: When using Dr. Masters' blog, please refrain from posting material not relevant to the discussion of tropical weather, or the topic of the blog entry itself. Please do not engage in personal attacks or bickering. Material not conforming to these standards should be flagged with the button and ignored.

I have already reported you, and I will continue to do so if you continue this petty vendetta against the bloggers you don't like. Put them on ignore if you wish; minus them if you like; but don't fill MY blog space with your petty grievances.
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671. Dakster 12:34 AM GMT en Septiembre 14, 2009    
and you can produce your own s&*^ storm afterwards...
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672. cyclonekid 12:35 AM GMT en Septiembre 14, 2009    
Choiwan...has nice spiral bands
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673. BahaHurican 12:38 AM GMT en Septiembre 14, 2009    
Anybody with SST maps of the WPac?

Ta.
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675. Cavin Rawlins 12:38 AM GMT en Septiembre 14, 2009    
Quoting cyclonekid:
Choiwan...has nice spiral bands


remnants of Erika sure blew up.
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676. Cavin Rawlins 12:39 AM GMT en Septiembre 14, 2009    
Quoting BahaHurican:
Anybody with SST maps of the WPac?

Ta.


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677. hurricane23 12:40 AM GMT en Septiembre 14, 2009    
Pretty hostile condtions across the central atlantic...ull's, sinking air, you name it quite a shear zone across the eastern most islands with some pretty signficant easterly windshear.

PICK ONE

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678. GeoffreyWPB 12:41 AM GMT en Septiembre 14, 2009    
Quoting WeatherStudent:
Good evening, my friends! :)


Good evening my friend. Ex-fred is not going to hit Florida.
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679. GeoffreyWPB 12:43 AM GMT en Septiembre 14, 2009    
Central Atlantic WV
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681. Cavin Rawlins 12:45 AM GMT en Septiembre 14, 2009    
Next Generation loop

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682. Dakster 12:45 AM GMT en Septiembre 14, 2009    
Stormw - YES, I agree!!

How's the weather on your end, it is a nice lightning/rain storm here at the moment. I think I am getting what you went through earlier.
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683. hurricane23 12:45 AM GMT en Septiembre 14, 2009    
GeoffreyWPB that image says it all.
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684. BahaHurican 12:45 AM GMT en Septiembre 14, 2009    
Quoting Weather456:


Thanks, 456. I wanted to see how warm waters were in Choi-wan's projected path. Looks like a lot of fuel out there. And I don't think there's much in the way of shallow water between the Marianas and Japan....
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685. Dakster 12:46 AM GMT en Septiembre 14, 2009    
Weather456 - What and where is that?
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686. pottery 12:46 AM GMT en Septiembre 14, 2009    
Baha, post 670.
Excellent post.
That stuff is so utterly boring....
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689. TriniGirl26 12:50 AM GMT en Septiembre 14, 2009    
Good Night Guys :)
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690. Cavin Rawlins 12:50 AM GMT en Septiembre 14, 2009    
Quoting Dakster:
Weather456 - What and where is that?


WPAC's CHOI-WAN

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691. Dakster 12:52 AM GMT en Septiembre 14, 2009    
Quoting Weather456:


WPAC



Thanks.. Sometimes when you post the close-ups the lat/lons get cut off and I don't know whether you are posting current or old storms.

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692. cyclonekid 12:54 AM GMT en Septiembre 14, 2009    
Quoting Weather456:


remnants of Erika sure blew up.
where is that...the blow up E of FL???
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693. hydrus 12:54 AM GMT en Septiembre 14, 2009    
Quoting JLPR:


yes it does xD
Looks Like a smoke plume.
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694. tornadodude 12:55 AM GMT en Septiembre 14, 2009    
Quoting TriniGirl26:
Good Night Guys :)


goodnight :)
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695. Cavin Rawlins 12:55 AM GMT en Septiembre 14, 2009    
Quoting cyclonekid:
where is that...the blow up E of FL???


the typhoon in the WPAC. But I was kidding, lol.

Part of Erika remnants was incorporated in the Jersey low.
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696. BahaHurican 12:57 AM GMT en Septiembre 14, 2009    
Quoting pottery:
Baha, post 670.
Excellent post.
That stuff is so utterly boring....
Hey, pott... haven't seen u for a while. Is it still raining down there??? LOL

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697. hcubed 12:57 AM GMT en Septiembre 14, 2009    
Quoting Hurricane009:
You seem like a good weather forecaster stormno :)


Now THAT made me laugh.

Stormtop/stormkat/stormt/stormno is a good weather forcaster?

HA!!
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698. TexasHurricane 12:58 AM GMT en Septiembre 14, 2009    
wow... we are at the peak of hurricane season, and this is all there is...

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699. cyclonekid 12:59 AM GMT en Septiembre 14, 2009    
Quoting Weather456:


the typhoon in the WPAC. But I was kidding, lol.

Part of Erika remnants was incorporated in the Jersey low.


OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! Okay...
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701. TexasHurricane 1:00 AM GMT en Septiembre 14, 2009    
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