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Fred rapidly intensifies; new wunderground storm surge section launched
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 1:51 PM GMT en Septiembre 09, 2009 +6
Hurricane Fred put on an impressive burst of intensification overnight, and is now a major Category 3 hurricane with 120 mph winds. However, Fred is not a threat to any land areas for at least the next week. Satellite imagery of Fred shows the spectacular signature of a classic Cape-Verdes type major hurricane, with a prominent eye, well-developed low-level spiral bands, and high cirrus clouds denoting excellent upper-level outflow on three sides. It is quite unusual to have such a powerful system so far east in the Atlantic, and Fred is only the third major hurricane to exist east of 35W. Fred is also the strongest hurricane so far south and east in our data record. However, this type of system would have been difficult to document before satellite pictures began in the 1960s.


Figure 1. Visible satellite image of Hurricane Fred at 10:30am EDT 9/9/09. Fred was a Category 3 (120 mph winds) at this time.

The forecast for Fred
Wind shear through Thursday morning is expected to stay in the low range, 5 - 10 knots, and ocean temperatures will be about 1 - 2°C above the threshold needed for tropical cyclone formation. Given these conditions, plus such factors as the temperature at 200 mb and the amount of moisture between 700 mb and 500 mb, this morning's run of the SHIPS model computes that the Maximum Potential Intensity (MPI) Fred can reach tonight is 140 mph (121 knots), which would make it a Category 4 hurricane. This is the strongest a hurricane can get in this region of the atmosphere. Very few hurricanes ever reach their MPI, and it will be interesting to see how close Fred gets to this mark.

Shear will rise to the moderate range, 15 - 20 knots, Thursday through Friday, then increase to the high range, 20 - 40 knots, Saturday through Sunday, thanks to a strong trough of low pressure traversing the North Atlantic. This should weaken Fred to a tropical storm five days from now. The trough will also pull Fred to the northwest and then north. Most of the models foresee that this trough will not be strong enough to fully recurve Fred to the northeast and out to sea. However, another strong trough of low pressure is forecast to traverse the central Atlantic about eight days from now, and this trough should be strong enough to recurve the storm northeastward out to sea. The odds of Fred making it all the way across the Atlantic to threaten land areas appear low at this time.

Elsewhere in the tropics
A weak front is expected to move off the Texas coast Friday and linger along the coast for several days. Beginning on Friday, we will need to watch the Western Gulf of Mexico for possible development of a tropical cyclone along this front. Any storm that develops would likely move northeast or north-northeast and impact Louisiana and northern Texas coast. The models are less enthusiastic this morning about developing such a storm than they were in previous runs, and there will be some high wind shear to the west for a potential tropical system to contend with.

New wunderground storm surge section launched
The Weather Underground is pleased to announce the release of the Internet's most comprehensive hurricane storm surge web pages. The new storm surge section provides more than 500 detailed, zoomed-in storm surge maps from the official storm surge model used by the National Hurricane Center--the Sea, Lake, and Overland Surge from Hurricanes (SLOSH) model. I've created SLOSH model worst-case flood maps for Category 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 hurricanes for the entire U.S. Atlantic coast, plus Hawaii, Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands, and the Bahamas. Zoom-in maps of fifteen important cities such as Miami, New York City, Boston, Tampa, and Corpus Christi are included. To help coastal residents see how past storms have affected their region, the wunderground storm surge pages also include SLOSH model animations of the surge for more than 40 historic storms--from the Great Colonial Hurricane of 1635 to Hurricane Ike of 2008. You can access the new storm surge web pages.from our Tropical/Hurricane page, on the right side of the page under my blog box. I encourage all coastal residents along the U.S. coast to take the time to familiarize themselves with the storm surge risk where they live.


Figure 2. Sample water depth inundation image (left) and storm tide image (right), created using NOAA's SLOSH model. These Maximum of the "Maximum Envelope of Waters" (MOM) plots are for Tampa Bay, Florida, for a mid-strength Category 4 hurricane (sustained winds of 143 mph) hitting at high tide.

How to interpret the storm surge images
There are two sets of images available. The first set, titled "Maximum Water Depth", shows the water depth at each grid cell of the SLOSH domain. Thus, if you are inland at an elevation of ten feet above mean sea level, and the combined storm surge and tide (the "storm tide") is fifteen feet at your location, the water depth image will show five feet of inundation. The second set of images, titled "Maximum Storm Tide", shows how high above mean sea level the sum of the storm surge plus the tide reaches. Over the ocean, the storm tide and water depth images will show the same values. The storm tide images contain no information about how deep the water will be inland, and are generally less useful than the water depth images. All of these Maximum of the "Maximum Envelope of Waters" (MOM) images were generated for high tide, and thus show worst-case inundation scenarios for mid-strength hurricanes of each Saffir-Simpson Category (Category 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5). Category 5 hurricanes have never occurred in the Mid-Atlantic or New England regions, so there are no Category 5 images shown there. No single storm will be able to cause the level of flooding depicted in the SLOSH storm surge images along the entire coast. A sample set of storm surge images for a Category 4 hurricane hitting Tampa Bay is shown in Figure 2. Black lines mark the coastline, and also delineate the grid the SLOSH model used. There may be storm surge present outside the boundaries of the grid, so pay attention to where the grid boundaries are. Also, if you see a high surge modeled for a narrow waterway that goes right up to the edge of the grid boundary, don't believe it. The model puts an artificial barrier at the grid boundary, and the surge is piling up against this non-existent barrier. Empty brownish grid cells with no coloration show where no inundation is computed to occur. St. Petersburg becomes two islands in a worst-case scenario Category 4 hurricane, as shown by the brown areas surrounded by colored areas of storm tide (this did occur during the Great Gale of 1848, a Category 4 hurricane that hit the city). The tide level is marked at the bottom of the color legend, and is 1 foot in this example. The left "maximum water depth" image shows how high above each grid cell the storm tide reaches. The storm tide--the combination of the storm surge plus the 1 foot high tide--reaches as much as 27 feet above mean sea level (pink colors) near downtown Tampa (right-hand "maximum storm tide" image). The amount of inundation inland is controlled by the elevation of the land. Some of the inland regions near downtown Tampa being inundated by the 27-foot storm tide are at an elevation of 19 feet, so as much as 8 feet of inundation will occur at those locations (dark blue colors in the left-hand "maximum water depth" image). Interstate highways are the thick grey-green lines, and smaller highways are shown as dark green and light green lines. If a road is inundated by storm surge, it will not appear. County boundaries are shown in red.

Twenty years ago on this date
On September 9, 1989, satellite imagery detected a strong tropical wave with plenty of spin and heavy thunderstorm activity moving off the coast of Africa, just south of the Cape Verdes Islands. The satellite analyst at the National Hurricane Center duly noted the tropical wave, the 35th such wave to move off Africa that year, in his tropical weather discussion. No one could suspect that the routine-looking tropical wave would eventually grow to become Hurricane Hugo--the costliest Atlantic hurricane of all time.

Jeff Masters
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301. Murko 4:47 PM GMT en Septiembre 09, 2009    
Quoting apocalyps:
If we put all the ice of the world in the ocean sea temperatures would be to cold to have hurricanes.


Yes, but sea levels would probably rise by several feet!
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302. NWHoustonMom 4:48 PM GMT en Septiembre 09, 2009    
Ahh! I think lightning just struck something right outside my office... it's really booming today.
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304. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 4:49 PM GMT en Septiembre 09, 2009    
lunch is over back to work for me see ya all around three at break time
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305. truecajun 4:49 PM GMT en Septiembre 09, 2009    
sweet hat Murko! my big brother always wore one to cut the grass down home along the bayou. he's a character!
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306. Bordonaro 4:49 PM GMT en Septiembre 09, 2009    
Quoting NWHoustonMom:
Any word on the Low that's supposed to develop over/near the GOM this weekend? I know S TX is experiencing an awful drought.
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307. pearlandaggie 4:50 PM GMT en Septiembre 09, 2009    
Quoting FloridaTigers:


Is Tip really as big as they say he was? He doesn't appear to be as bad as half of the US as that graphic on Wikipedia shows. It seems to be a myth like the Alicia double eye.


Have you ever seen a picture of the infamous "double eye"? I haven't ever been able to locate one! LOL I guess it is just a myth.
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309. truecajun 4:50 PM GMT en Septiembre 09, 2009    
so no one has any comments on the blob that in NE of Puerto Rico????????
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311. beell 4:51 PM GMT en Septiembre 09, 2009    
Quoting gulfcoastdweller:


and will this wave reach the Gulf?
TIA


It would be my guess that this feature rounds the ridge just east of the Bahamas-similar to Bill and Danny and gets tangled up in yet another stalled frontal boundary pushing off the east coast just in front of a CONUS trough.
Not the greatest of upper level conditions for development. It was supposed to dissapate but has kept its naked surface swirl for at least 3 days now.
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312. newenglandnative 4:51 PM GMT en Septiembre 09, 2009    
Only adding the landborn ice sheets and glaciers would cause the sea level to rise. Physics.
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314. tornadodude 4:52 PM GMT en Septiembre 09, 2009    
Quoting truecajun:
so no one has any comments on the blob that in NE of Puerto Rico????????


I commented, I think it bears watching, but idk about the shear in that area. that loop you posted did have a great view of fred.
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316. Bordonaro 4:53 PM GMT en Septiembre 09, 2009    
Quoting truecajun:
so no one has any comments on the blob that in NE of Puerto Rico????????
Have you taken a look at the CIMSS models? That will help you/us get an idea what's going on in the atmosphere over PR!!
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318. tornadodude 4:53 PM GMT en Septiembre 09, 2009    
Lafayette, Purdue University Airport
Lat: 40.43 Lon: -86.93 Elev: 623
Last Update on Sep 9, 11:54 am EDT

Overcast with Haze

68 °F
(20 °C)
Humidity: 81 %
Wind Speed: E 6 MPH
Barometer: 30.15" (1020.6 mb)
Dewpoint: 62 °F (17 °C)
Visibility: 4.00 mi.
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319. Seastep 4:53 PM GMT en Septiembre 09, 2009    
Quoting truecajun:
so no one has any comments on the blob that in NE of Puerto Rico????????


Not much to say, really. Was 1013mb yesterday and hostile shear, atm. If the shear relaxes, it's possible something could get going.

Until then, and you can clearly see it on sat, doesn't have a chance.
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320. Murko 4:54 PM GMT en Septiembre 09, 2009    
305. Thanks!

303. You obviously don't know anything. I was going to say "about physics", but I'll just leave it there.
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321. NWHoustonMom 4:55 PM GMT en Septiembre 09, 2009    
Quoting mrnicktou:


So is the flare up of storms in the northern GOM going to go up into the south east part of texas as just a bunch of storms


it seems the last couple of days the storms have been moving NNW to SSE... could just be a illusion from down here
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323. swampdawg 4:56 PM GMT en Septiembre 09, 2009    
ok ya'll........don't ya see......apocalyps is loving every minute of it. everybody here is crazy in their own way, or we wouldn't be here, honestly. just put him on ignore and quit worrying about who's quoting him. he's getting to you, and your letting him.....
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324. JLPR 4:56 PM GMT en Septiembre 09, 2009    
impressive
Fred is now at 120 MPH
I said if it managed to get to 100pmh it would have my respect, so it has it xD
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325. NWHoustonMom 4:57 PM GMT en Septiembre 09, 2009    
Quoting truecajun:
so no one has any comments on the blob that in NE of Puerto Rico????????


i posted the pic for you, but i don't know enough to comment on what it is... sorry :-)
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326. Buhdog 4:57 PM GMT en Septiembre 09, 2009    
apoc actually makes me laugh out loud sometimes i have to admit....his statements are usually very short and sour. His dry humor (if intended) is at times on point. I got to admit i am saying convention to myself once in a while. That being said....i hope i dont get killed.

Backdoor front coming nw today in swfl...starting to fill in Link
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328. Dakster 4:59 PM GMT en Septiembre 09, 2009    
Hey Floodman, StormW - glad to see you guys around.

Fred is doing the forecasted Norhwest path now I see, which so far is good news. Didn't see the Cat 3 strenght coming though.

I see trolls, there everywhere, some even post here.
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330. pearlandaggie 5:00 PM GMT en Septiembre 09, 2009    
326. i have to, at least in part, agree. he pulls the same old tricks and people still fall for it. i'd bet he could sell the heck out of some Arizona ocean front property! LOL
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331. Murko 5:01 PM GMT en Septiembre 09, 2009    
apocalyps *POOF*
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332. MysteryMeat 5:01 PM GMT en Septiembre 09, 2009    
Quoting NWHoustonMom:


why is BAMS still taking it south?


BAMS is pretty useless for major hurricanes (the S standing for shallow). If it gets sheared and mauled as the forecast indicates, it'll be a more likely component to follow five or six days from now. As of now, it's of no consequence.
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333. NWHoustonMom 5:02 PM GMT en Septiembre 09, 2009    
332. thank you!
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335. superweatherman 5:06 PM GMT en Septiembre 09, 2009    
Quoting truecajun:
so no one has any comments on the blob that in NE of Puerto Rico????????


From weather456 nothing to worry since there is a ULL on top off it.
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336. beell 5:07 PM GMT en Septiembre 09, 2009    
Quoting gulfcoastdweller:


BEELL........where you been?


Workin' 'n lurkin', gcd
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337. msinformed 5:08 PM GMT en Septiembre 09, 2009    
Quoting NWHoustonMom:
Ahh! I think lightning just struck something right outside my office... it's really booming today.


Wish we could have some of that in League City/Brittany Lakes area. All major precip has passed us by since April, ... my poor lawn. :(
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339. truecajun 5:09 PM GMT en Septiembre 09, 2009    
Quoting Seastep:


Not much to say, really. Was 1013mb yesterday and hostile shear, atm. If the shear relaxes, it's possible something could get going.

Until then, and you can clearly see it on sat, doesn't have a chance.


thanks.
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340. jpsb 5:09 PM GMT en Septiembre 09, 2009    
Quoting truecajun:


it's been persistent since Sunday - that's when i started watching it, so it's not "just an afternoon thunderstorm"
Yeah, that blob is interesting. 456 says it is a wave (mll?) (95L?) interacting with an ul. And that it needs to find a more favorable environment to develop. Worth keeping an eye on if you live on the gulf coast/s fla.
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342. msinformed 5:11 PM GMT en Septiembre 09, 2009    
Quoting mrnicktou:

Yea I agree. Its nice to get some rain now though


I'm sooo jealous!
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343. druseljic 5:12 PM GMT en Septiembre 09, 2009    
Wow, Fred is really turning out to be quite something for an E. Atlantic storm

RGB Loop of Hurricane Fred
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344. hydrus 5:12 PM GMT en Septiembre 09, 2009    
Quoting AussieStorm:


Super Typhoon Tip in middle
Typhoon Sarah at left
Thank you for the great satellite pic.
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345. TheCaneWhisperer 5:12 PM GMT en Septiembre 09, 2009    
Quoting IKE:
12Z GFS.....through 162 hours...


A virtual parking lot for cyclones around 40W, lol.
346. truecajun 5:13 PM GMT en Septiembre 09, 2009    
Quoting superweatherman:


From weather456 nothing to worry since there is a ULL on top off it.


thanks.
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347. JLPR 5:13 PM GMT en Septiembre 09, 2009    
Quoting jpsb:
Yeah, that blob is interesting. 456 says it is a wave (mll?) (95L?) interacting with an ul. And that it needs to find a more favorable environment to develop. Worth keeping an eye on if you live on the gulf coast/s fla.


yep that's our meteor xD it has managed to keep itself alive so it is a fighter
if it finds good conditions it could develop
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348. RJT185 5:14 PM GMT en Septiembre 09, 2009    
Quoting TheCaneWhisperer:


A virtual parking lot for cyclones around 40W, lol.


Is this current?
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349. swampdawg 5:14 PM GMT en Septiembre 09, 2009    
ahhhh, apocalyps just got murko...............don't let him do it murko!! heck, we all know u can't suck out all the ocean water........u can't 'freeze' over the entire oceans all over the world or just get rid of the gulf of mexico.........lol.......it's impossible!!
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350. truecajun 5:16 PM GMT en Septiembre 09, 2009    
Quoting jpsb:
Yeah, that blob is interesting. 456 says it is a wave (mll?) (95L?) interacting with an ul. And that it needs to find a more favorable environment to develop. Worth keeping an eye on if you live on the gulf coast/s fla.


i must be looking at the wrong shear maps or old ones or soemething. can someone post a current shear map.
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351. Seastep 5:18 PM GMT en Septiembre 09, 2009    
Currenty 20-30kts over the PR spin.

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