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Little change to Erika; Jimena makes landfall as a Category 2 hurricane
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 7:30 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009 +2
Tropical Storm Erika remains weak and disorganized, and the future track and intensity of the storm remain highly uncertain. The center has jumped several times over the past 12 hours, and now lies exposed to view, west of the main area of heavy thunderstorms. Radar animations out of Martinique show little organization of the echoes, and satellite imagery shows no low-level spiral bands or upper-level outflow. Wind shear analyses from the University of Wisconsin diagnose a moderate 10 - 15 knots of shear over Erika, a decrease from yesterday. SSTs are warm, 29°C. The Hurricane Hunters are in the storm now, and have found a slight increase in the surface winds, up to 45 mph. They noted that the surface center was displaced 12 miles north of the center they found at 1500 feet, which is the sign of a disorganized storm undergoing wind shear.

The forecast for Erika
Erika is embedded in a weak steering current pattern, and the storm's current state of disorganization is allowing the center to make random jumps as it reforms near the heaviest thunderstorm activity. This makes for a low-confidence forecast. The future track of the storm will depend upon how strong the storm gets over the next few days. A stronger Erika will extend higher into the atmosphere and be steered more to the northwest by upper-level winds. A weaker Erika will be steered more by the low-level winds, which will keep the storm on a more westerly track. The intensity forecast models did a poor job with Tropical Storm Danny last week, and appear to be repeating that poor performance with Erika. All of the major intensity forecast models predict substantial strengthening of Erika. This seems unlikely to occur, given the storm's current disorganization, and the predicted increase in wind shear along the path of Erika to 20 - 25 knots 3 - 5 days from now. The more southerly than expected track of the storm also brings the possibility that Erika will encounter the high mountains of Puerto Rico and Hispaniola. The GFS, GFDL, and Canadian models predict Erika will pass near Puerto Rico on Friday, then move over Hispaniola on Saturday. Erika in its current weak state would probably not survive an encounter with these islands. A wide range of scenarios is still possible for Erika, from outright dissipation (as forecast by the GFS, Canadian, and ECMWF models) to intensification to a Category 3 hurricane (as forecast by the HWRF model). Erika is a long-term threat to the Bahamas and U.S. East Coast if it is still around five days from now. Potential landfall locations range from Florida on Tuesday to North Carolina on Wednesday. The NOGAPS model has Erika potentially missing the U.S. entirely, scooting northwards between North Carolina and Bermuda. My current expectation is that Erika will dissipate on Saturday when it encounters Hispaniola.


Figure 1. Afternoon image of Tropical Storm Erika. The swirl of clouds just west of Guadeloupe island is the center. This center was what I had labeled a "false center" in this morning's post, and has taken over as the main center this afternoon.

Hurricane Jimena hits Baja
Hurricane Jimena made lanndfall on Mexico's Baja Peninsula late this morning near Cabo San Lazaro as a Category 2 hurricane with 100 mph winds. Jimena is the 2nd strongest hurricane to hit Baja's west coast since record keeping began in 1949. The only stronger storm was Hurricane Norbert, which made landfall in 2008 on the central Baja coast with sustained winds of 105 mph. Jimena has now weakened to a Category 1 storm, and will continue to weaken as it hits colder waters and interacts with land. No deaths or major damage have been reported from the storm.


Figure 2. Hurricane Jimena on Tuesday, Sep. 1, 2009, as seen by NASA's MODIS instrument. Image credit: NASA Earth Observatory.

California fire webcams
As I discussed in yesterday morning's post, you can use our wundermap for Los Angeles with the fire layer turned on to see where the fire and smoke are located, and track the temperatures and winds during today's air pollution event. We also have two webcams with views of the fire: Altadena and Tujunga.

I'll have an update Thursday morning.

Jeff Masters
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401. hurricane556 8:59 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
18z nam at 84 hrs actually develops 94L compared the 12z that never developed it.
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402. justalurker 8:59 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
just like the commercial says;

"what ever happens in the Caribbean, stays in the Caribbean"
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403. MiamiHurricanes09 8:59 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
IF Erika begins to move WNW/NW soon, then we most monitor Erika closely, if she follows the NHC come dead on, then we will be able to discard Erika in 3 to 5 days time if she is done for and the NHC is no longer posting advisories on her.
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404. AllStar17 8:59 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
Don't know about the latest NHC forecast.
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405. scottsvb 8:59 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
Quoting KimberlyB:
So if that pans out and you have a remnant low in that area, is there no chance of that low redeveloping?

I'm not "wishcasting". Not by a long shot. I just wanted to ask since everyone is saying that if it takes that path then it will be completely gone in 5 days.


Once a tropical system becomes a remnant low...its chance of redeveloping is under 10%...if it does have the perfect ideal conditions...it happens..but rarely... more often a midlevel center works its way down to the surface and kicks out the old center.
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406. OSUWXGUY 9:00 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
The NHC cone keeps going further and further south...

Now the southern portion of the cone bypasse all land to the south. Only way Erika survives past 72 hours IMHO...

If she were to go north of the islands, the westerlies are forecast to be quite strong = sheared to death.

Over the islands of Puerto Rico or Hispaniola = land induced dissipation
407. IKE 9:00 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
Quoting reedzone:


Yep, land interaction and wind shear IF it's correct, but confidence is low. If it goes north, I feel it could regenerate. People still need to watch Erika, but again not panic, it's far from being a threat to anyone at this time. The naked swirl is NOT the actual center, it's a fake swirl as Masters pointed out this morning. This storm is so unvertically stacked, it's causing a couple of centers lol.


From his blog above...

"Figure 1. Afternoon image of Tropical Storm Erika. The swirl of clouds just west of Guadeloupe island is the center. This center was what I had labeled a "false center" in this morning's post, and has taken over as the main center this afternoon."
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408. CybrTeddy 9:00 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
Quoting scottsvb:


Not even close to what the NHC said


Do we have to find some sort of reason to always bash someone? Its his opinion, doesn't mean its right. I could say Erika might be bringing green eggs and ham to the Islands, does that automatically make it fact? No, just my opinion.
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409. Floodman 9:00 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
Quoting Patrap:


..."Up on yer feet,Moods are for women and Cattle...
Note the Pressures Mid-Gulf Man"..!


Using the point lacks artistry lad; have you seen the steering?!
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411. Orcasystems 9:01 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
Quoting SykKid:
Another pathetic storm....in what's been a pathetic season.


Oh so true.. no massive property damage.. no ravaged city s... no fatality lists 1000's long... ohhh such a dismal season.. where is the carnage....

Poof.. your gone
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413. Patrap 9:02 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    


What do you call the mouse shadow on the second moon?

We call that one Muad'Dib.
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414. OSUWXGUY 9:02 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
The storm at the 18UTC NAM Develops is not Erika, but the wave behind her...

Oh, and by the way, that's in the face of 30 knots of westerly shear. LMAO.
415. PalmBeachWeatherBoy 9:03 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
Why would Erika not regenerate after sunday in the very warm and low shearing area around the bahamas?
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416. louisianaboy444 9:03 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
Quoting Funkadelic:
Erika will be moving at a slow speed of 10mph over the those tall mountains. Oh well the African wave looks good, but will move out to sea according to the models.


If you are a thrill seeker(which i'm not) this season as been pretty pathetic...with storms going out to sea and non-closed LLC or naked swirls it has just been pathetic thats why downcasting is the way to go be skeptical about every storm until it shows it can hold its own its the only way to be right
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417. Drakoen 9:03 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
Cimss shear tendency map shows decreasing shear. If Erika can avoid Hispaniola moving east of the landmass then it has the potential to become better organized again...
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418. LariAnn 9:03 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
In the updated blog entry above, the good Dr points out that the swirl he referred to as a "false center" this morning is now the real center. So Erika really is going naked, at least for now . . .
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420. Speeky 9:04 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
The storm off of Africa's coast seems to be strong it will become T.S. Fred as soon as it comes offshore
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421. rareaire 9:04 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
The man with a PHD says to close to call but many here are ok its gone, lol I laugh at that optimism. Its doing what its done since it started, grow sheer, die down, grow, go west, go nw, go nnw. How about we wait and see!
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424. reedzone 9:05 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
Here's a scenario, for fun :)

What if Erika keeps moving west? haha.. Longshot but anythings possible.
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425. Tropicaddict 9:05 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
Why has no one mentioned the possibility that Erika may continue to go W and just stay in the Caribbean? Is this not a possibility? Why?
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426. kmanislander 9:05 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
The quikscat for 10N 43W should be interesting this evening

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427. CUBWF 9:05 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
Hey, remember, not always D.R. destroy tropical storms. Fay runs the entire island, from east to west, and everybody knows how she finished.
428. CybrTeddy 9:05 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
Quoting SykKid:


Every storm with the exception of Bill has been a disorganized mess.


Right to the ignore list buddy. Tell that to the family of the person killed in Claudette bub. Or the family of that small boy who was washed out to sea by Danny's waves and who they've still not found. You really have no clue do you?
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429. AllStar17 9:05 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
We could be looking at a whole new situation if Erika bypasses all land masses towards the south (Hispaniola, PR, Cuba, etc.).
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430. LightningCharmer 9:05 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
Quoting Ossqss:
Updated DAT is catching this file each click on this site using IE.

mootools-wu-1.11[1].js

It is the JS/Exploit-Packed.c.gen

I hope some have forwarded this info to Admin.

I will also as I depart.


I've noticed occasionally some of the ads on this site have questionable active scripting. This problem is not just unique to this site. The pay per click ad suppliers like Google Adwords need to start vetting their ads better from their clients.
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431. F5Tornado 9:05 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
GFDL run is corrupt:

Link
432. cirrocumulus 9:06 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
Is anyone else getting trojan alerts from McAfee when they click on this website?
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433. Patrap 9:06 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
As i explained this morning in the other entry. Erika is a Large CV circulation,..always has been. And She can develop a Central CoC due to the Ongoing shear at different Levels.

She has a Good Up Pulse Like Last Night that had even the featured Bloggers crying Havoc,but unless she can Find a way to Maintain a CENTRAL CoC within the Overall Cyclonic Flow,..well
Shes never going to be all that some would Like her to Be.
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434. southfla 9:06 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
Quoting rareaire:
The man with a PHD says to close to call but many here are ok its gone, lol I laugh at that optimism. Its doing what its done since it started, grow sheer, die down, grow, go west, go nw, go nnw. How about we wait and see!


I have to admit that Erika's chances of strengthening are not looking good -- but I will continue to watch just in case.
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435. reedzone 9:06 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
Oh and apologies about the center relocation.. I read the NHC discussion a bit fast. Thought it said the center was not west of that Island. The center is surely that naked low level swirl. We'll see what Erika can do tonight.
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436. MiamiHurricanes09 9:06 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
The wave coming off of Africa is impressive, even though models curve it out to sea you have to remember models are useless when it is not a TD or higher. Here is the wave:
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437. SQUAWK 9:06 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
can't wait and see. that would not be consistent with this blog's attitude.
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438. scCane 9:06 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
This storm is a mess if you look on the visible you can see two naked swirls that seem to be rotating around each other. Its to the ne of the one that went through guadeloupe And a possible third on the eastern side.
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439. hurricane556 9:06 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
i was just thinking the same thing. its possible the way shes been moving
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440. JupiterFL 9:06 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
Quoting OSUWXGUY:
The storm at the 18UTC NAM Develops is not Erika, but the wave behind her...

Oh, and by the way, that's in the face of 30 knots of westerly shear. LMAO.


It almost looks as if the wave behind it absorbs what is left of Erika on its way by.
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442. cirrocumulus 9:07 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
I did forward this to tech support, but apparently they are unaware of the problem or unable to remove the trojan.
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443. Drakoen 9:07 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
Look at the satellite loop and you can see two circulations with Erika. The focus will be which one becomes dominant
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445. Patrap 9:07 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
Quoting cirrocumulus:
Is anyone else getting trojan alerts from McAfee when they click on this website?


All frigging day,.. Ive spoken again,to the Sites Highest authority on it. Id expect we may see some words on that soon,here.

Hopefully.

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446. ConchHondros 9:07 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
All we need now Rare is a stall or a loop
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447. tropics21 9:08 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
Quoting Patrap:
As i explained this morning in the other entry. Erika is a Large CV circulation,..always has been. And She can develop a Central CoC due to the Ongoing shear at different Levels.

She has a Good Up Pulse Like Last Night that had even the featured Bloggers crying Havoc,but unless she can Find a way to Maintain a CENTRAL CoC within the Overall Cyclonic Flow,..well
Shes never going to be all that some would Like her to Be.
Ana 2
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448. reedzone 9:08 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
Quoting southfla:


I have to admit that Erika's chances of strengthening are not looking good -- but I will continue to watch just in case.


Exactly what I've said, will continue to monitor Erika
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449. AllStar17 9:08 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
It is also important to note that the center of Erika could relocate under the large ball of deep convection at any time.
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450. Patrap 9:08 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
Quoting reedzone:
Oh and apologies about the center relocation.. I read the NHC discussion a bit fast. Thought it said the center was not west of that Island. The center is surely that naked low level swirl. We'll see what Erika can do tonight.



Good to see ya coming around to reality reed.
Always read the er,NHC words ,..that helps a great deal as to whats occurring always.
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451. hurricanejunky 9:09 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
Quoting reedzone:
All these self righteous people need to stop making bold predictions. WE DON'T KNOW!! Give it a few days. Erika is a complicated storm and still will remain a TS at 5 p.m. with 40-45 mph. winds. So many downcasters in here tonight, figured I'd see this.
For the people lurking..
Continue to monitor Tropical Storm Erika. Models have no clue on strength and track as of today, really depends if it can grab that next Anticyclone. The NHC has low confidence but they're right, Erika may dissipate, a 50/50 chance. Give it time and don't listen to the people who are declaring it gone. :)

Amen brother!
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