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Little change to Erika; Jimena makes landfall as a Category 2 hurricane
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 7:30 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009 +2
Tropical Storm Erika remains weak and disorganized, and the future track and intensity of the storm remain highly uncertain. The center has jumped several times over the past 12 hours, and now lies exposed to view, west of the main area of heavy thunderstorms. Radar animations out of Martinique show little organization of the echoes, and satellite imagery shows no low-level spiral bands or upper-level outflow. Wind shear analyses from the University of Wisconsin diagnose a moderate 10 - 15 knots of shear over Erika, a decrease from yesterday. SSTs are warm, 29°C. The Hurricane Hunters are in the storm now, and have found a slight increase in the surface winds, up to 45 mph. They noted that the surface center was displaced 12 miles north of the center they found at 1500 feet, which is the sign of a disorganized storm undergoing wind shear.

The forecast for Erika
Erika is embedded in a weak steering current pattern, and the storm's current state of disorganization is allowing the center to make random jumps as it reforms near the heaviest thunderstorm activity. This makes for a low-confidence forecast. The future track of the storm will depend upon how strong the storm gets over the next few days. A stronger Erika will extend higher into the atmosphere and be steered more to the northwest by upper-level winds. A weaker Erika will be steered more by the low-level winds, which will keep the storm on a more westerly track. The intensity forecast models did a poor job with Tropical Storm Danny last week, and appear to be repeating that poor performance with Erika. All of the major intensity forecast models predict substantial strengthening of Erika. This seems unlikely to occur, given the storm's current disorganization, and the predicted increase in wind shear along the path of Erika to 20 - 25 knots 3 - 5 days from now. The more southerly than expected track of the storm also brings the possibility that Erika will encounter the high mountains of Puerto Rico and Hispaniola. The GFS, GFDL, and Canadian models predict Erika will pass near Puerto Rico on Friday, then move over Hispaniola on Saturday. Erika in its current weak state would probably not survive an encounter with these islands. A wide range of scenarios is still possible for Erika, from outright dissipation (as forecast by the GFS, Canadian, and ECMWF models) to intensification to a Category 3 hurricane (as forecast by the HWRF model). Erika is a long-term threat to the Bahamas and U.S. East Coast if it is still around five days from now. Potential landfall locations range from Florida on Tuesday to North Carolina on Wednesday. The NOGAPS model has Erika potentially missing the U.S. entirely, scooting northwards between North Carolina and Bermuda. My current expectation is that Erika will dissipate on Saturday when it encounters Hispaniola.


Figure 1. Afternoon image of Tropical Storm Erika. The swirl of clouds just west of Guadeloupe island is the center. This center was what I had labeled a "false center" in this morning's post, and has taken over as the main center this afternoon.

Hurricane Jimena hits Baja
Hurricane Jimena made lanndfall on Mexico's Baja Peninsula late this morning near Cabo San Lazaro as a Category 2 hurricane with 100 mph winds. Jimena is the 2nd strongest hurricane to hit Baja's west coast since record keeping began in 1949. The only stronger storm was Hurricane Norbert, which made landfall in 2008 on the central Baja coast with sustained winds of 105 mph. Jimena has now weakened to a Category 1 storm, and will continue to weaken as it hits colder waters and interacts with land. No deaths or major damage have been reported from the storm.


Figure 2. Hurricane Jimena on Tuesday, Sep. 1, 2009, as seen by NASA's MODIS instrument. Image credit: NASA Earth Observatory.

California fire webcams
As I discussed in yesterday morning's post, you can use our wundermap for Los Angeles with the fire layer turned on to see where the fire and smoke are located, and track the temperatures and winds during today's air pollution event. We also have two webcams with views of the fire: Altadena and Tujunga.

I'll have an update Thursday morning.

Jeff Masters
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601. stormsurge39 9:43 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
Quoting futuremet:
Stormsurge29, I have inadequate data right now to determine which one will win. I'll now by 21z or 00z.
Ok thanks i thought you might go with your gut this time. Just messing with you.
602. IKE 9:43 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
To any and all....system is in the eastern Caribbean. The John Hope rule applies...."if it hasn't developed by the time it gets in the eastern Caribbean, it won't develop until it reaches the western Caribbean."

Erika has PR and then DR/Haiti to dodge, which I can't see happening. It may fire off some convection near the COC overnight, but it will fade again tomorrow.

98% chance the fat-lady is tuning up for Erika.
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604. MiamiHurricanes09 9:44 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
Good Evening!
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605. midgulfmom 9:44 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
Quoting futuremet:


The TUTT axis still extends somewhat into the Caribbean, which will cause marginal shear if it were to move there. Moreover, it would run into the ragged mountains of Hispaniola. If the southern COC wins, then will likely go to the Caribbean, and toward the Bahamas if the northern one wins.
WOW, Now it's a COC duel. This is real theatre... Ok, team north or team south.
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606. Patrap 9:44 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
Quoting tornadodude:


and you misspelled misspelled.... wow




LOL..OMG..that's the best yet today here..
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607. TheDawnAwakening 9:44 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
Centers are battling it out right now and it could mean a generous fight where they both give in to one another and become one, or it will be rather gruesome as one beats the other one out, or they both dissipate due to the anticyclone being more dominant. If one center was to develop into a vigorous circulation and become more vertically stacked the anticyclone will venture or be forced to accompany the circulations and help ventilate their convection.
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608. Tazmanian 9:44 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
456 whats your in takes on this wave

Quoting Tazmanian:
95L is on the way likey too be are next name storm

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609. Chicklit 9:44 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
#591...For goodness sake. Noticed NHC took yellow off the screen at 5 p.m. for the one in front of it. Time to walk the dog. Once the lights go out expect Erika to come to life. lol. Otherwise, it's crow for breakfast (again!)
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610. Elena85Vet 9:44 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
It's about that time of day for Erika to get jiggy with it again.
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611. Cavin Rawlins 9:44 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
Quoting JadeInAntigua:


Good evening 456.


hey, hows it over in Antigua
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612. tornadodude 9:45 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
Quoting Patrap:




LOL..OMG..that's the best yet today here..


haha you gotta love it, right?
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614. poknsnok 9:45 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
agree fat lady for Erika
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615. Tazmanian 9:45 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
Quoting btwntx08:
we don't have 95L yet



I SAID IT COULD BE COME 95L I DID NOT SAY IT WAS 95L


MY GOD!
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616. sky1989 9:46 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
Chris, Ingrid, Karen, Melissa, Josephine, Ana, oops I mean Erika. These may all have something in common.
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617. Patrap 9:47 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    




"... and the sea will grant each man new hope, as sleep brings dreams of home." Christopher Columbus.
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618. rareaire 9:46 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
One thing thats funny is we are all watching the storms in the atlantic and pacific but am I the only one that finds it very odd it was 53 degrees in Oklahoma last night in September and its only 69 right now! Very Very wierd weather across the US . Im not going to complain its nice change from mid 90's but odd to say the least.
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619. IKE 9:46 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
Quoting caneluver:


Its already formed!


A naked swirl?
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620. FloridaTigers 9:47 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
WHY IS EVERYONE YELLING
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622. tornadodude 9:47 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
Quoting FloridaTigers:
WHY IS EVERYONE YELLING


IDK!!! :O
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623. Elena85Vet 9:47 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
Is the "show/hide" button not working for anyone else or did I get a bug off that trojan earlier?
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624. Relix 9:47 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
North COC should win. Both moving due west though. 16N one seemed to stall and get picked by convection.
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625. hurrizone 9:48 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
Oficial center looks to be dissipating. New center appears to be re-forming near deep convection once again.
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626. tramp96 9:48 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
Quoting Patrap:
One Year ago today..

2 Sept 2008..



What happened to Hannah
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627. Cavin Rawlins 9:48 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
Anybody trying to downplay a system like Erika affecting Hispaniola is upsetting.
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628. GeauxGirl 9:48 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
The later it gets, the more entertaining this blog gets. Thanks, Erica!! ;)

The "convection" has really expanded in the last couple of frames.
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629. IKE 9:48 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
Quoting Hurricane009:
When should we expect the next tropical depression from the wave exiting off africa??


And when a TD or TS comes from that, I can see the arguments over....it's a fish, it's not a fish starting up.

Get ready!
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633. CaribBoy 9:49 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
It looks like a new center is developping just east of barbuda in the northern leeward islands near 17.7N 60.5W. Do you see that?
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635. Tazmanian 9:49 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
Quoting Hurricane009:
When should we expect the next tropical depression from the wave exiting off africa??



it sould be vary soon
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637. msphar 9:49 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
Erika is firing off convection over the "FALSE" COC! Could be setting up for a jump Westward tonight.
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638. stormsurge39 9:49 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
Quoting IKE:
To any and all....system is in the eastern Caribbean. The John Hope rule applies...."if it hasn't developed by the time it gets in the eastern Caribbean, it won't develop until it reaches the western Caribbean.

Erika has PR and then DR/Haiti to dodge, which I can't see happening. It may fire off some convection near the COc overnight, but it will fade again tomorrow.

98% chance the fat-lady is tuning up for Erika.
Theres a big black crow in my front yard, ill save it for you. If you dont need it ill probably need it because the way this storm is weak and how far S it is and traveling W still, it will be in the NE Caribbean tomorrow. Its already a TS so im sure it can handle it self in the NW Caribbean.
639. Patrap 9:51 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
Quoting tramp96:


What happened to Hannah


Google Hurricane Hannah 2008 and you will have a lot to digest
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641. tramp96 9:50 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
Quoting IKE:


And when a TD or TS comes from that, I can see the arguments over....it's a fish, it's not a fish starting up.

Get ready!


And you will be right in the middle of it
lol
p.s. love your avatar
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642. TheDawnAwakening 9:50 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
Quoting CaribBoy:
It looks like a new center is developping just east of barbuda in the northern leeward islands near 17.7N 60.5W. Do you see that?


That could be the new mean center correcting both coc off to the northeast and southwest.
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644. Grothar 9:51 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
It would appear that Erika is going to be going through the Mona passage rather than interact with much land. While the shear is reported to be high there, as soon as it passes, the shear is to be lower and will be heading in much warmer water. I do not think we should write this one off too quickly. Opinion only. I haven't said much here today. Just allow me to have my moment of glory so I can strut my stuff.
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646. IKE 9:51 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
Quoting caneluver:


By my understanding her name is TS Erica, so the hope rule is out.


Sorry, it isn't. It's a naked swirl with a blob of convection well east of the swirl that even the NHC said in their latest discussion wasn't part of the circulation.

The John Hope rule does apply.
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647. Tazmanian 9:51 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
Quoting btwntx08:

sorry about i get confused of the way u type it



that ok but Please read my commets more befor you post them
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648. Patrap 9:52 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    



We call it "Crazy Ivan." The only thing you can do is go dead. Shut everything down and make like a hole in the water
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649. sky1989 9:52 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
We'll probably have both Fred and Grace in the Atlantic next week.
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650. Cavin Rawlins 9:52 PM GMT en Septiembre 02, 2009    
Quoting caneluver:


By my understanding her name is TS Erica, so the hope rule is out.


exactly, this constant back and forth is ridiculous. The system has already done everything "some" have predicted and it is my prediction that it will continue.

NB, she was forecast to go out sea into the hurricane graveyeard.
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