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TD 2 struggling; new African wave bears watching
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 2:19 PM GMT en Agosto 12, 2009 +2
Tropical Depression Two is struggling. The depression still has a good chance of becoming the Atlantic hurricane season's first named storm this week, but the dry, Saharan air that surrounds the storm, combined with moderately high levels of wind shear, are interfering with the storm's organization. Satellite loops of the storm show that heavy thunderstorm activity is limited to the west side of the depression. This is due to strong winds out of the southeast that are creating a moderate 15 - 20 knots of wind shear. The intensity and coverage of these thunderstorms is meager, thanks to the large amount of dry air to TD 2's north that is getting wrapped into the circulation. This morning's QuikSCAT pass showed a well-formed surface circulation, with top winds of about 30 - 35 mph.

Wind shear over TD 2 is expected to remain in the moderate range, 10 - 20 knots, over the next five days. Sea Surface Temperatures (SSTs) are a marginal 26 - 27°C, and will not change much over the next three days. There is plenty of dry, stable air from the Saharan Air Layer (SAL) to to TD 2's north that will continue to cause the storm problems. The relatively cool SSTs and dry air mean that TD 2 will not be able to intensify quickly. However, it does appear likely that TD 2 has enough going for it that it will eventually be able to become Tropical Storm Ana sometime in the next three days. Most of the computer models show some weak development, but none of them predict TD 2 will become a hurricane. It is unusual for storms forming this far north to make it all the way across the Atlantic to hit the Lesser Antilles Islands. For now, TD 2 doesn't concern me as much as the new tropical wave to its southeast, just off the coast of Africa.


Figure 1. Tropical Depression Two (left center of image) and a new tropical wave (right side of image), newly emerged from the coast of Africa.

Elsewhere in the Atlantic
A strong tropical wave with some rotation and plenty of heavy thunderstorm activity left the coast of Africa yesterday, and is located a few hundred miles south of the Cape Verdes Islands. The GFS and ECMWF models continue to predict the development of this wave late this week. Both of these models indicate that the wave would track further south than Tropical Depression Two, and could impact the Lesser Antilles Islands in about seven days. This storm bears close attention over the coming days.

Two other tropical waves, one that just passed through the Lesser Antilles Islands, and one about 300 miles east of the islands, are mentioned in NHC's Graphical Tropical Weather Outlook. Both of these waves have very limited heavy thunderstorm activity that is not increasing, and are not a threat to develop over the next two days. None of the computer models develop either of these waves.

Felicia moves through Hawaiian Islands as a tropical depression
Tropical Storm Felicia weakened to a tropical depression before passing through the Hawaiian Islands yesterday. The storm brought scattered heavy rains of 1 - 2 inches to the islands, and no damage was reported. Felicia is only the 10th tropical cyclone of tropical depression strength or higher to hit the islands since 1950. Four other tropical cyclones have passed within 75 miles of the islands during that time period.

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2651. 92Andrew 8:54 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
Quoting HurricaneKyle:
TD-2 has served as little more than a dust sweeper for pre-90L and it looks like it has done its part. This will be declared an invest today or tomorrow but it will take slow to fully organize.


"Dust sweeper" nails it on the head. This year's atlantic basin has been dry and relatively moisture less, so the last two week's increase of tropical activity, has precisely been the "dust sweeper" and is paving the wave for more conducive conditions for tropical development in the coming weeks and into September. All in all, the late start of this hurricane season in terms of tropical convective flare ups in the atlantic, caused by unseasonably high levels of saharan layer of dust, is what may have killed Tropical Depression 2's chances.
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2652. Cotillion 9:05 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
The dry air certainly didn't help it, though it was really salt on the wounds and insult to injury after the shear had taken its toll.

Not too bad right now:

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2653. 92Andrew 9:05 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
Last time I saw the weather maps of continental africa, I was so sure that "Bill" (before we realized what should have been Anna is now on life support) is the african wave yet to emerge into the atlantic but is next in line. The wave that just came out from the coast is not so impressive and should not have been labeled "pre bill" and may encounter an even quicker death to that of Anna.
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2654. HadesGodWyvern 9:06 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
National Hurricane Center
Tropical Cyclone Advisory #4
TROPICAL CYCLONE GUILLERMO (EP102009)
9:00 AM UTC August 13 2009
====================================

At 6:00 AM UTC, Tropical Storm Guillermo (999 hPa) located at 16.9N 120.5W or 700 NM west-southwest of the southern tip of Baja California Peninsula has sustained winds of 45 knots with gusts of 55 knots. The cyclone is reported as moving west-northwest at 14 knots.

Gale-force Winds
================
75 NM from the center

Forecast and Intensity
======================
12 HRS: 17.2N 122.6W - 50 knots (Tropical Storm)
24 HRS: 17.6N 125.2W - 55 knots (Tropical Storm)
48 HRS: 18.4N 130.5W - 60 knots (Tropical Storm)
72 HRS: 19.1N 135.8W - 50 knots (Tropical Storm)
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2655. KoritheMan 9:07 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
Quoting 92Andrew:
Last time I saw the weather maps of continental africa, I was so sure that "Bill" (before we realized what should have been Anna is now on life support) is the african wave yet to emerge into the atlantic but is next in line. The wave that just came out from the coast is not so impressive and should not have been labeled "pre bill" and may encounter an even quicker death to that of Anna.


Why then, is the NHC monitoring it, and giving it a decent shot at becoming a tropical cyclone within 48 hours?
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2656. HadesGodWyvern 9:08 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
the cyclone warning page is getting smaller now with only 2 cyclone current, ^_^
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2657. HadesGodWyvern 9:10 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
20090813.0815.msg-2.vis.90L.INVEST.25kts.1009mb.11.5N.22W.100pc.jpg
New Atlantic invest 11.5N 22.0W
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2658. Cotillion 9:12 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
'Bout time 90L came again.
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2659. HadesGodWyvern 9:13 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
METEO France
High Sea Forecast For The Eastern Atlantic

Tropical depression TWO, 1006, near 14.0N36.3W AT 13/03 UTC, moving
West 12 kt.
Low 1004 over north of Mauritania.
Low 1003 by 13N 19W, moving west, forecast 1010 by 11N 23W at 14/12 UTC.

90L is being monitored by Meteo France
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2660. 92Andrew 9:16 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
Quoting KoritheMan:


Why then, is the NHC monitoring it, and giving it a decent shot at becoming a tropical cyclone within 48 hours?


"I was so sure" implied I knew what the NHC has been saying. I merely said the wave behind pre Bill had been consistently appearing more ferocious.
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2661. HurricaneKyle 9:22 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
I see 90L is up.
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2662. HurricaneKyle 9:23 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
Quoting 92Andrew:


"I was so sure" implied I knew what the NHC has been saying. I merely said the wave behind pre Bill had been consistently appearing more ferocious.


The models are developing a system behind 90L..
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2663. nrtiwlnvragn 9:33 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
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2664. weatherblog 9:37 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
The NHC is still saying TD2 will become a tropical storm, so discount it yet.

I think 90L will become Bill and potentially threaten the Antilles. While there is a chance of a Carolina hit or a recurvature out to sea, I think a Florida hit is definitely possible. With late starting seasons, an Andrew must always be kept in close mind.
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2665. Cavin Rawlins 9:40 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
Good morning, I see we have 90L

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2666. nrtiwlnvragn 9:42 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
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2667. stoormfury 9:45 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
morning 456
islands seem under the gun we just cannot affoed that now
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2668. Cotillion 9:48 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
Those models are keeping low... right through the Caribbean.

Right now, anyway.

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2669. IKE 9:48 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
Quoting stoormfury:
morning 456
islands seem under the gun we just cannot affoed that now



Latest 00Z ECMWF curves it east of the islands.

Maybe a threat to Bermuda only.
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2670. JRRP 9:49 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
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2671. stoormfury 9:49 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
early models cluster to 50w after which sst is in the 82deg range possibly a major hurricane
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2672. HurricaneKyle 9:49 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
Quoting Weather456:
Good morning, I see we have 90L



Yuck, Dean part 2 if that goes as forecast.

Quoting nrtiwlnvragn:


Elongated COC, but more organized than yesterday, and indication 90L's starting to spin up.
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2673. HurricaneKyle 9:52 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
Speaking of Dean, today is the second anniversary of the Genesis of Dean which was also a 90L, which also the models made into a monster, which also the models said was to track through the Caribbean. Interesting coincidence.
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2674. stoormfury 9:53 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
the B/H is still very strong and i cannot see this being pulled out to sea in this dramatic style
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2675. Cotillion 9:59 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
Quoting stoormfury:
the B/H is still very strong and i cannot see this being pulled out to sea in this dramatic style


I thought the B/H is about normal, 1026mb isn't that strong. Could be wrong, though. Normal is around 1024-25.

It's just hovering around the line between negative/positive for the NAO, most seem to keep it just into the positive.
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2676. stoormfury 10:00 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
METEO France have 90L dropping to 11N at 1400 UTC
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2677. Cavin Rawlins 10:02 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
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2678. WPBHurricane05 10:03 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
The ECMWF has TD 2 redeveloping in the Bahamas.
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2679. Cotillion 10:07 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
Quoting WPBHurricane05:
The ECMWF has TD 2 redeveloping in the Bahamas.


At least it keeps it weak and doesn't send it into the Gulf a la Katrina.
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2680. WPBHurricane05 10:09 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
Quoting Cotillion:


At least it keeps it weak and doesn't send it into the Gulf a la Katrina.


Yup.
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2681. aquak9 10:11 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
good morning

Please- 90L? did they invest the african coast blob?
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2682. HaboobsRsweet 10:11 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
Good morning all, anyone else a little concerned with TD2? I mean it wont be much more than a TS but watching the models they are going farther and farther south it seems each run and the Ensembles have not really changed. They have it going towards the islands as well. I have a hard time going against NHC but I have a funny feeling about this.
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2683. IKE 10:14 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
Quoting aquak9:
good morning

Please- 90L? did they invest the african coast blob?


Yes. But a major model, ECMWF, shows it curving east of the islands now.
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2684. Cotillion 10:18 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
Quoting aquak9:
good morning

Please- 90L? did they invest the african coast blob?


Read that as 'invest in...'

90L shares up for sale! Profits up! Dow up by 3 points! Buy low, sell high!
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2685. IKE 10:19 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
Looks to me like 90L hasn't moved that fast overnight.
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2686. HurricaneJoe 10:20 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
Quoting Cotillion:


At least it keeps it weak and doesn't send it into the Gulf a la Katrina.


Good morning everyone

Look at this. It's an older run, but still scary. Link

2687. HurricaneJoe 10:23 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
Quoting IKE:
Looks to me like 90L hasn't moved that fast overnight.


Morning Ike. What do you think it will do? Any opinions?
2688. aquak9 10:22 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
I'll take ECMWF for 200, please.

BAMS and BAMD almost the same on 90L, that seems a little odd to me, but I guess the ridge is pretty strong.

Unless something miraculous occurs w/TD2, can't really see it being a HUGE problem.
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2689. IKE 10:23 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
Tallahassee,FL....long-term discussion....

"LONG TERM...SAT NIGHT THROUGH THU.
AT THE START OF THE PERIOD...THERE IS DECENT MODEL CONSENSUS THAT A
TIGHTENED GRADIENT WILL EXIST ACROSS THE ERN GULF OF MEXICO AS A
TROPICAL WAVE WORKS ITS WAY WWD ACROSS THE CENTRAL GULF. WHILE
THIS WILL PRIMARILY IMPACT THE COASTAL WATERS WITH EXERCISE CAUTION
CONDITIONS...IT WILL ALSO RESULT IN ELEVATED POPS ACROSS THE WRN
ZONES WITH LOWER POPS E. DURING THE WORK WEEK...THE SURFACE RIDGE
AXIS WILL REMAIN IN PLACE N OF THE FORECAST AREA...WHICH WILL KEEP
US IN AN ELY FLOW REGIME. THIS WILL RESULT IN BELOW NORMAL POPS AND
SLIGHTLY ABOVE NORMAL TEMPS. BY WED OR THU...THE REMNANTS OF WHAT IS
NOW TD TWO MAY REACH FL. THE LATEST 00Z EURO SHOWS IT RECURVING OFF
THE E COAST WHILE THE GFS BRINGS AN OPEN WAVE ACROSS S FL. WE BUMPED
POPS BACK UP TO NORMAL FOR THU TO ACCOUNT FOR THE UNCERTAINTY
ASSOCIATED WITH THIS SYSTEM. LOOKING FURTHER AHEAD...MODELS CONTINUE
TO BE IN GOOD AGREEMENT THAT THE POTENT WAVE NOW ORGANIZING JUST OFF
THE W COAST OF AFRICA WILL MARCH ACROSS THE ATLANTIC OCEAN AS A TC
AND APPROACH N AMERICA. WITH A TROUGH DEEPENING OVER THE ERN U.S.,
THIS SYSTEM COULD RECURVE BEFORE REACHING FL.
HOWEVER...IT IS
CLEARLY TOO EARLY FOR CONJECTURE WITH A SYSTEM THAT IS ONLY NOW JUST
STARTING TO DEVELOP."
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2690. IKE 10:25 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
Quoting HurricaneJoe:


Morning Ike. What do you think it will do? Any opinions?


Odds are it will go east of Florida.

Troughs in the eastern USA.....
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2691. HurricaneJoe 10:27 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
Quoting IKE:


Odds are it will go east of Florida.

Troughs in the eastern USA.....


Good news for us on the Gulf Coast. I hope you're right.
2692. JRRP 10:27 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    

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2693. viman 10:28 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
I think 90L will bw ANA
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2694. HurricaneKyle 10:28 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
Quoting IKE:


Odds are it will go east of Florida.

Troughs in the eastern USA.....


If it follows the current model runs, it will go south and west of Florida. Caribbean tracker. Lets just wait and see what happens first.

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2695. Cotillion 10:28 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
Be nice if it recurves, and misses Bermuda, and doesn't come my way.

Already had enough of rain and cool temps, another spoiled summer. Another 2-4 inches forecasted for tomorrow/Saturday in my part of the world. Ugh. (Higher totals further up North, though, it seems.)
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2696. IKE 10:28 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
Latest GFS is weaker on 90L and slower on it's movement....putting it, at least 600 miles east of the islands in a week.
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2697. stoormfury 10:29 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
with the high in place the track of 90L which i believe will be ANA will have similiar tracks to Allen of 1980 and Dean of 2007 as 456 said the residents of the lesser antilles should stay on top of this developing weather system
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2698. Cavin Rawlins 10:30 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
Quoting IKE:
Latest GFS is weaker on 90L and slower on it's movement....putting it, at least 600 miles east of the islands in a week.


I guess it picked up the fact 90L is barely moving.
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2699. Cotillion 10:30 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
There's a lot of divergence on where this is going. Depends on the high, this supposed trough, and it's overall strength.

A fair few factors right now.
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2700. HurricaneKyle 10:31 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
Quoting stoormfury:
with the high in place the track of 90L which i believe will be ANA will have similiar tracks to Allen of 1980 and Dean of 2007 as 456 said the residents of the lesser antilles should stay on top of this developing weather system


Seems probable at this point with the Bremuda High the way it is. Right now its a wait and see, these things always shift.
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2701. tornadofan 10:32 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
Am I seeing this right? 6z GFS now develops 90L, but it quickly falls apart as it heads toward the Islands.

Link
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