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TD 2 struggling; new African wave bears watching
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 2:19 PM GMT en Agosto 12, 2009 +2
Tropical Depression Two is struggling. The depression still has a good chance of becoming the Atlantic hurricane season's first named storm this week, but the dry, Saharan air that surrounds the storm, combined with moderately high levels of wind shear, are interfering with the storm's organization. Satellite loops of the storm show that heavy thunderstorm activity is limited to the west side of the depression. This is due to strong winds out of the southeast that are creating a moderate 15 - 20 knots of wind shear. The intensity and coverage of these thunderstorms is meager, thanks to the large amount of dry air to TD 2's north that is getting wrapped into the circulation. This morning's QuikSCAT pass showed a well-formed surface circulation, with top winds of about 30 - 35 mph.

Wind shear over TD 2 is expected to remain in the moderate range, 10 - 20 knots, over the next five days. Sea Surface Temperatures (SSTs) are a marginal 26 - 27°C, and will not change much over the next three days. There is plenty of dry, stable air from the Saharan Air Layer (SAL) to to TD 2's north that will continue to cause the storm problems. The relatively cool SSTs and dry air mean that TD 2 will not be able to intensify quickly. However, it does appear likely that TD 2 has enough going for it that it will eventually be able to become Tropical Storm Ana sometime in the next three days. Most of the computer models show some weak development, but none of them predict TD 2 will become a hurricane. It is unusual for storms forming this far north to make it all the way across the Atlantic to hit the Lesser Antilles Islands. For now, TD 2 doesn't concern me as much as the new tropical wave to its southeast, just off the coast of Africa.


Figure 1. Tropical Depression Two (left center of image) and a new tropical wave (right side of image), newly emerged from the coast of Africa.

Elsewhere in the Atlantic
A strong tropical wave with some rotation and plenty of heavy thunderstorm activity left the coast of Africa yesterday, and is located a few hundred miles south of the Cape Verdes Islands. The GFS and ECMWF models continue to predict the development of this wave late this week. Both of these models indicate that the wave would track further south than Tropical Depression Two, and could impact the Lesser Antilles Islands in about seven days. This storm bears close attention over the coming days.

Two other tropical waves, one that just passed through the Lesser Antilles Islands, and one about 300 miles east of the islands, are mentioned in NHC's Graphical Tropical Weather Outlook. Both of these waves have very limited heavy thunderstorm activity that is not increasing, and are not a threat to develop over the next two days. None of the computer models develop either of these waves.

Felicia moves through Hawaiian Islands as a tropical depression
Tropical Storm Felicia weakened to a tropical depression before passing through the Hawaiian Islands yesterday. The storm brought scattered heavy rains of 1 - 2 inches to the islands, and no damage was reported. Felicia is only the 10th tropical cyclone of tropical depression strength or higher to hit the islands since 1950. Four other tropical cyclones have passed within 75 miles of the islands during that time period.

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1901. presslord 12:41 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
I'm gonna have to get voice recognition software...can't type for squat anymore...
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1902. atmoaggie 12:42 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
Quoting Patrap:
Just a Lil Humor,..If a Threat comes to NOLA my Plan starts at the Yucatan..when a System forcasted to Come Close,My Family goes then ahead of the rush.

Then I stay at the Corps of Engineers Building on the Miss River near Audubon Park,way High up on the River Levee.

Know it well!
Quoting Patrap:



The Family goes to Baton Rouge,then as the Storm Closes in,..they go either West or East depending on the Storms Path.

We have friends in various States that take us in.

Huh. You go up, I go down...into the basement in Slidell.
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1903. TreasureCoastFl 12:44 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
Quoting Weather456:


Forecast to continue to build west, with two high pressure centers and a weakness



hmmm so depending on the timing of everything it looks like things could get pushed anywhere from North Carolina south to Miami area?
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1904. Patrap 12:44 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
Hey Press...here comes a few days of Cooler,er..less Humid air ..

Wish that was coming down when we need it,instead of now,

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1905. Cavin Rawlins 12:44 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
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1906. reedzone 12:44 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
This is a map I made 2 months ago concerning this month and September..

Photobucket
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1907. popartpete 12:45 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
Quoting BenBIogger:
Hurricane Donna(1960)





'04's Charley took a similar path, like Donna's. Donna was far bigger, and went up the coast over mainly water, bringing hurricane winds all the way up to Maine. Charley just brought rain, as he had been over land, going through the Carolinas before re-entering the Atlantic as a minimal tropical storm. It's close to Charley's anniversary this week. I think it hit here somewhere during August 14-17...not sure, and too lazy to go to wikipedia.
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1908. futuremet 12:45 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
Quoting Weather456:


Forecast to continue to build west, with two high pressure centers and a weakness



It likely miss the weakness.
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1909. Patrap 12:46 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
Quoting presslord:
I'm gonna have to get voice recognition software...can't type for squat anymore...



Thats in the works for my new system Paul,..my IT guy used his today,..and I said

Dude,Hook me up..Dont care the cost,..get er done,I said
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1910. Cavin Rawlins 12:46 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
Quoting TreasureCoastFl:


hmmm so depending on the timing of everything it looks like things could get pushed anywhere from North Carolina south to Miami area?


yea, i do not think wave is entirely fish with a ridge forecast to be in placed over the SW ATL. But still alot of uncertainty this rstly on.
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1911. CaicosRetiredSailor 12:46 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
1904.
Quoting Patrap:



...AHEM
well now... you moved it off of the top of me

Thanks!
CRS
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1912. TerraNova 12:47 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
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1913. presslord 12:47 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
Quoting Patrap:



Thats in the works for my new system Paul,..my IT guy used his today,..and I said

Dude,Hook me up..Dont care the cost,..get er done,I said


very cool! You be the guinea pig...keep me posted on how you like it...
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1914. TreasureCoastFl 12:47 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
Quoting futuremet:


It likely miss the weakness.


why? Is the high moving faster west?
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1915. zoomiami 12:47 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
One of the things that I've wondered about is if the models may be confused by the the two areas basically coming out of the same area.

A few years ago that was the case with some storms. Anyone?
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1916. sctonya 12:47 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
Press:
Is Portlight gonna have a fundraiser in Chas? If so, when and where? TIA
1917. popartpete 12:48 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
Quoting TampaSpin:


That could be the NYC big one.......
Oh no! For once, my hometown is in possibly more dangerous than my second home, The Tampa Bay area.
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1918. victoria780 12:48 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
Quoting futuremet:
TD2 is moving out of the easterly shear. It may reorganize its COC, if it is able to fend off dry air.

looks like dry air is shrinking in the Atlantic..
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1919. stormpetrol 12:48 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
I think the COC for TD2 is around 13.5N/36W, actually more colocated with the convection now even though the convection has waned considerably, my guess is it will be in full bloom again in the morning and will be upgraded by 11 am ,jmo.
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1920. TreasureCoastFl 12:48 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
Quoting Weather456:


yea, i do not think wave is entirely fish with a ridge forecast to be in placed over the SW ATL. But still alot of uncertainty this rstly on.

I see.. okay , thanks for the lesson! I'm understanding a bit more now!
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1921. reedzone 12:49 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
DMIN literally striped both of these systems down to the bone, I'm sure DMAX will blow them up later on tonight and we might have TS Ana and Invest 90L by morning.

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1922. popartpete 12:50 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
Quoting LPStormspotter:


What day is the anniversary?
Katrina came on the one of the last days of August, maybe the 28th.
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1923. Patrap 12:52 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
anytime CRS,..
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1924. TreasureCoastFl 12:50 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
Quoting Weather456:


yea, i do not think wave is entirely fish with a ridge forecast to be in placed over the SW ATL. But still alot of uncertainty this rstly on.


Oh one more thing.. How long does the high sit there once it moves west? Does it move back and forth or do we know? I remember one year it stayed in place for it seemed all season.
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1925. Chucktown 12:50 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
Hey Press, its ironic that every 10 years on the 9, Charleston has dealt with a major 'cane. 1979 David, 89 of course Hugo, 99 was Floyd (near miss) and who knows for 09

Check out David's path - look familiar?

Link
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1926. hurricanehanna 12:50 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
Quoting Patrap:
Hey Press...here comes a few days of Cooler,er..less Humid air ..

Wish that was coming down when we need it,instead of now,

Timing of it really sucks
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1927. presslord 12:51 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
Quoting sctonya:
Press:
Is Portlight gonna have a fundraiser in Chas? If so, when and where? TIA



we had on in Summerbville in May...and have one planned for Danile Island @ Bishop England HS in October...don't recall the date right now...will post it tomorrow....
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1928. G35Wayne 12:51 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
The convection with 02 is just fading. Cant believe that the storms are not able to fire up this year.
1929. adjusterx 12:52 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
Just tuning in for a quick daily dose.Is the thing Pat posted #1891 trying or gonna be trouble?Don't have time to investigate,just saw it.By the Pat how did the shrimp Lb numbers turn out?
1930. missmaxi 12:52 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
I'm learning and I'm getting a little confused since the models are all over the place. Yesterday Miami was in the middle of the monster storm, this morning it was the Carolina's and tonight it's Louisiana....

Where is this monster going????
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1931. Patrap 12:53 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
Katrina Made Landfall the Morning of the 29th of August,NOLA at 0515 CST the Eyewall struck proper


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1932. popartpete 12:55 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
Quoting StormW:
12Z Run of the ECMWF showing the "monster"

If this pans out the way it looks on this model, Storm, it reminds me of the following storms: 1903 Atlantic City Hurricane, Great Atlantic Hurricane of 1944, '54's and '55's strikes (Carol, Edna, Hazel, Connie Diane), Hurricane Belle in '76, and Hurricane Gloria in '85.
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1933. hurricane23 12:55 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
Dont see an invest classification this evening with capeverde wave as shower activity is pretty limited. Needs a good diurnal-max boost. structure wise no problems.
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1934. sctonya 12:57 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
Thanks for the info press. Lookin forward to it....

Chucktown, I don't like the irony of the 9's!!
1935. duprk452 12:57 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
Quoting popartpete:
Katrina came on the one of the last days of August, maybe the 28th.


It's August 29th
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1936. originalLT 12:57 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
Maybe big "Bill" will disrupt the TD that was supposed to be Anna and will have a sex change operation and become Anna himself or herself!
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1937. kmanislander 12:58 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
TD2 has thrown a state of depression over the blog by not becoming Ana.

El Nino may be playing a stronger role in this hurricane season than otherwise considered to be the case. Dry air, shear, conditions that never seem to be just right are all conspiring to prevent systems like TD2 from developing.

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1938. TStormSC 12:58 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
Presslord: Clark's Hill??? What side of the line do you live on anyway?? :)

Pat: I've got a place on Hartwell and you can stop by on the way to Presslord's place farther down the Savannah.
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1939. WxLogic 12:59 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
Quoting missmaxi:
I'm learning and I'm getting a little confused since the models are all over the place. Yesterday Miami was in the middle of the monster storm, this morning it was the Carolina's and tonight it's Louisiana....

Where is this monster going????


Simple... too early to tell. Once the disturbance develops and we're about 5 to 7 days from a landfall then we'll know with some degree of accuracy where it could hit (if it doesn't go out to sea).
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1940. Chucktown 12:59 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
Quoting sctonya:
Thanks for the info press. Lookin forward to it....

Chucktown, I don't like the irony of the 9's!!


Hey Tia, yea, sometimes forget how lucky we have been here in the Lowcountry, the thing that sucks is that the law of averages will eventually catch up
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1941. IKE 12:59 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
Quoting StormW:


Actually, if you run the loop, at that point it just starts moving NW


I agree.
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1942. presslord 1:00 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
TStorm...I live on Johns island...near Charleston....the lake house is a getaway...just over the line in Georgia...
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1943. Tazmanian 1:00 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
we now have GUILLERMO
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1944. Patrap 1:00 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
Quoting TStormSC:
Presslord: Clark's Hill??? What side of the line do you live on anyway?? :)

Pat: I've got a place on Hartwell and you can stop by on the way to Presslord's place farther down the Savannah.



Ill make a note right now on that,Thank you
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1945. Patrap 1:01 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
Welcome back Tazaroo,..lotsa things to watch now dude.
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1946. conchygirl 1:01 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
Quoting kmanislander:
TD2 has thrown a state of depression over the blog by not becoming Ana.

El Nino may be playing a stronger role in this hurricane season than otherwise considered to be the case. Dry air, shear, conditions that never seem to be just right are all conspiring to prevent systems like TD2 from developing.

Perhaps they will all die this season...:)
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1947. Tazmanian 1:02 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
this may be the year of olny TDs
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1948. tornadofan 1:02 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
Quoting Tazmanian:
we now have GUILLERMO


Hi Taz - good to see you back!
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1949. Cavin Rawlins 1:03 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
Quoting TreasureCoastFl:


Oh one more thing.. How long does the high sit there once it moves west? Does it move back and forth or do we know? I remember one year it stayed in place for it seemed all season.


the exact nature and behaviour of the high is controlled by mid-lattitude forces and thats why the north atlantic oscillation is used to give an idea of the high. Somes it remains strong all season, 2004, and 2007. Sometimes it changes as the season progresses, 2003 and 2008.
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1951. kmanislander 1:03 AM GMT en Agosto 13, 2009    
Quoting conchygirl:
Perhaps they will all die this season...:)

We wouldn't be that lucky. Actually, I am expecting a few very strong ones to soak up all the TCHP .
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