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Late-starting hurricane seasons
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 2:01 PM GMT en Julio 29, 2009 +2
Late-starting hurricane seasons--ones where the first named storm of the year doesn't occur until August--have happened in eleven of the fifty years between 1960 - 2009 (a 22% occurrence.) Only two of these eleven seasons ended up with more hurricanes than average (seven or greater). The record for the latest starting hurricane season since 1851 was set in 1914, when the only storm of the season formed on September 15. The year 1941 was also late starting, with the season's first storm arriving on September 11. Of course, we didn't have satellites back then, so it's a good bet there were storms earlier in these seasons that got missed. However, there's a good possibility that 1914 really did have only one storm. A re-analysis of the hurricane activity in the decade 1911-1920 (Landsea et al., 2008) found 1.3 missing tropical cyclones per year, thanks to the inclusion of a new database of ship weather reports called COADS. However, 1914 was not one of those years. Various authors have estimated that we missed an average of between one and three tropical cyclones per year during that time period, so it is quite possible 1914 had only one storm.


Figure 1. The hurricane season of 1914 featured only one tropical storm, and was the latest-starting hurricane season on record (September 15).

The latest dates for the first named storm of the season in the recent past, followed by the number of named storms, hurricanes, and intense hurricanes that year are:

2009 (August 15) 9,3,2
2004 (August 1) 15,9,6
2000 (August 4) 15,8,3
1988 (August 7) 12,6,3
1987 (August 9) 7,3,1
1984 (August 18) 13,5,1
1983 (August 15) 4,2,1
1977 (August 30) 6,5,1
1967 (August 30) 8,6,2
1963 (August 2) 9,6,2
1962 (August 22) 5,3,1

We can also add 1992 to the list if we ignore the unnamed subtropical storm that formed in April of that year. That year had the notorious Hurricane Andrew as its first named storm. Andrew formed on August 17 of that year, and was the only major hurricane in a year that had only seven named storms and four hurricanes. For comparison, an average Atlantic hurricane season has 10 named storms, 6 hurricanes, and 2 intense hurricanes. So, it is a good bet that 2009 will be a below-average season.

References
Landsea, C. W. , D. A. Glenn, W. Bredemeyer, M. Chenoweth, R. Ellis J. Gamache, L. Hufstetler, C. Mock, R. Perez, R. Prieto, J. Sanchez-Sesma, D. Thomas, and L. Woolcock, 2008, A Reanalysis of the 1911-20 Atlantic Hurricane Database", Journal of Climate, 21, p.2138-2168.

Jeff Masters
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1151. BurnedAfterPosting 7:50 PM GMT en Julio 30, 2009    
Looks like we officially have Lana, dont expect more than a 50mph TS, if that

Navy site has it as a 40mph storm
1153. hurricane23 7:52 PM GMT en Julio 30, 2009    
Donna, Betsy, Andrew, and the Labor Day 1935 cane just to name a few in regards to florida impacts during slow seasons. Its all just basically comes down to luck and chance at where the long wave pattern just happens to be when a hurricane just happens to come along.

Flip a coin.
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1154. CycloneOz 7:53 PM GMT en Julio 30, 2009    
Quoting mikatnight:
Not a bad video Brian. A little long for a PS message. Think you should place special emphasis on “those affected” (by the evac order).


Quoting mikatnight:
Of course, you should not stay home if you live in an evacuation area.


It's mentioned twice in the video (neighborhood under a mandatory evacutation.) Not enough, huh?
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1156. reedzone 7:55 PM GMT en Julio 30, 2009    
My youth group is heading down to Jamaica for a Mission Trip. I'm confident to say that a Tropical System will NOT affect them next week. Also I see where some are saying a recurvature pattern is coming.. However, the GFS has been flipping back and forth from strong high to strong east coast troughs. So we will have to wait and see what the pattern brings next month.
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1157. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 7:56 PM GMT en Julio 30, 2009    


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1158. reedzone 7:57 PM GMT en Julio 30, 2009    
Quoting BurnedAfterPosting:
Looks like we officially have Lana, dont expect more than a 50mph TS, if that

Navy site has it as a 40mph storm


L??? We should be at E on the East Pacific, why L? Seems like Invests aren't the only ones getting mixed up lol.
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1160. BurnedAfterPosting 7:58 PM GMT en Julio 30, 2009    
Quoting reedzone:


L??? We should be at E on the East Pacific, why L? Seems like Invests aren't the only ones getting mixed up lol.


No cuz it is in the Central Pacific now so it gets that name

No mix up
1161. MrNatural 7:58 PM GMT en Julio 30, 2009    
With the ridge in the west building back east and shear at a manageable level in the GOM, the wave in the central Caribbean at least has a fighting chance once it leaves the Caribbean. If it can hold together that long. And that is a big if...On a more long term basis, 7 - 10 days out, the movement of the deep trough that has been the central theme of the weather for the East coast is going to be key. I do not see any long range maps that make any major changes to the upper air wind patterns. Anyone out there have any thoughts on when this may change?? While this season is just getting started, I am keenly aware of how much 2009 resembles 2004 - a mild to moderate El Nino was developing and there was a stubborn deep trough located over the eastern half of the country.
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1162. hurricanejunky 7:58 PM GMT en Julio 30, 2009    
Quoting WeatherStudent:


Thank you very much for that thorough explination there, Adrian. Should we here in SF keep our eyes peeled out for the remainder of the cane season, Hurricane23?


Everyone in a hurricane prone area should keep their eyes "peeled out".
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1164. WPBHurricane05 7:59 PM GMT en Julio 30, 2009    
As long as the ECMWF forecast's that yellow in the Caribbean, you will get NOTHING there...you will have to look elsewhere.
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1165. Ossqss 7:59 PM GMT en Julio 30, 2009    
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1167. TampaSpin 8:04 PM GMT en Julio 30, 2009    
Quoting StormW:


No...I meant easterlies...there's some covergence going on now, but...

If you go here ECMWF

Watch the yellow in the Caribbean. This represents a low level easterly jet. As long as that is there, it pulls air out of the Caribbean, and doesn't really allow for convergence to take place.

Go here, and look at the wind barbs in the central and western Caribbean:

LOW LEVEL STEERING


StormW i seen what your saying but, is the low level steering really that bad. Guess it could cause the clouds to outrun any developing possible low....HUM

I think the dry environment is the biggest obstacle currently....lets give it 24hrs.
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1169. futuremet 8:08 PM GMT en Julio 30, 2009    
ECMWF-GFS troughing/ridging anomalies mean shows troughing over the east coast--an out-to-sea pattern.

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1170. TampaSpin 8:10 PM GMT en Julio 30, 2009    
Quoting StormW:


The jet is pulling air out at around 35-40 kts.


Thats the reason i'm an amuature and your the professional......i just don't see that...thanks.
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1172. hurricanejunky 8:12 PM GMT en Julio 30, 2009    
Seems nothing is favorable for TC development this season, except SST's which are what so many people make such a big deal over. Granted, it is one factor but only one of many. A quiet season does have its benefits...

El Nino...spanish for..."The Nino".
- Chris Farley

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1173. futuremet 8:12 PM GMT en Julio 30, 2009    
Quoting jasoniscoolman09:
FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE NEXT 72 HOURS.



Enough with the fakes Jason.

Genuine NHC outlooks

000
ABNT20 KNHC 301733
TWOAT
TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
200 PM EDT THU JUL 30 2009

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS.

$$
FORECASTER BERG

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1174. mikatnight 8:15 PM GMT en Julio 30, 2009    
Quoting CycloneOz:




It's mentioned twice in the video (neighborhood under a mandatory evacutation.) Not enough, huh?


No, on second thought I think you did fine. Too much emphasis on not evacuating would just be confusing. I'd just shorten it where possible to try and get it down to 60 or (gulp) 30 seconds (maybe different versions). It's quite dramatic, which is exactly what you want for that kind of message. Get people's attention, keep it, and make 'em remember it.
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1176. futuremet 8:19 PM GMT en Julio 30, 2009    
1171 WeatherStudent

It seems for the first half of August. The GEFS mean plot are expecting the trough to lift during the latter part of August.

More images:




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1177. IKE 8:20 PM GMT en Julio 30, 2009    
Quoting futuremet:


Enough with the fakes Jason.

Genuine NHC outlooks

000
ABNT20 KNHC 301733
TWOAT
TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
200 PM EDT THU JUL 30 2009

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS.

$$
FORECASTER BERG



He must be doing that for attention. I have him on ignore or I would report him. He needs a permanent banning from WU.
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1178. jeffs713 8:21 PM GMT en Julio 30, 2009    
Quoting futuremet:


Enough with the fakes Jason.

Genuine NHC outlooks

000
ABNT20 KNHC 301733
TWOAT
TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
200 PM EDT THU JUL 30 2009

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS.

$$
FORECASTER BERG


But he is cool, man!

Honestly though... he is a good example of why there is an ignore list. I just hope people don't take his fake outlooks/forecasts at face value, especially with a potentially damaging storm.
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1179. IKE 8:21 PM GMT en Julio 30, 2009    
Quoting futuremet:
1171 WeatherStudent

It seems for the first half of August.

More images:






I hope that pattern continues. I'll have an early end to the tropical season.
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1180. TampaSpin 8:22 PM GMT en Julio 30, 2009    
Quoting StormW:


Let's put it in another perspective...what is one of the signs that gives us an indication of a closed low level rotary circulation trying to take place?


I didn't mean my comment to sound negative at you...i simply mean i didn't understand that until you pointed it out.....LOL
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1181. IpswichWeatherCenter 8:22 PM GMT en Julio 30, 2009    
Quoting reedzone:


L??? We should be at E on the East Pacific, why L? Seems like Invests aren't the only ones getting mixed up lol.


lol, somebody isn't awake.

06E has become a Central Pacific Storm, which means instead of an East pacific name, it gets a CPac name.
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1183. TampaSpin 8:25 PM GMT en Julio 30, 2009    
Quoting StormW:


Let's put it in another perspective...what is one of the signs that gives us an indication of a closed low level rotary circulation trying to take place?


Oh to answer your question....Quikscat...is what i look at..
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1185. sullivanweather 8:25 PM GMT en Julio 30, 2009    
A pattern 118 years in the making...

Table of contents, July 1891 MWR.
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1186. TampaSpin 8:27 PM GMT en Julio 30, 2009    
Quoting StormW:


Oh...no Tim, I didn't take it that way at all! What I basically am trying to do, is go kinda step by step for some of the new folks here...I just wanted to put it in a different manner so other folks can understand what you and I are conversing about.


Had a blonde moment going.....LOL..oops i shouldn't say that...
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1189. SSideBrac 8:28 PM GMT en Julio 30, 2009    
Quoting reedzone:
My youth group is heading down to Jamaica for a Mission Trip. I'm confident to say that a Tropical System will NOT affect them next week. Also I see where some are saying a recurvature pattern is coming.. However, the GFS has been flipping back and forth from strong high to strong east coast troughs. So we will have to wait and see what the pattern brings next month.


Do not know where in Ja u are going, but please be critically aware that even heavy rainfall can bring considerable attendant risks, to parts of Ja, of Flash Floods etc - some of which have tragic consequences - it has already happened this year. Parts of Ja have experienced heavy rainfalls in recent past so any future additional heavy rain could pose problems.
Have a safe and successful trip.
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1190. hurricanejunky 8:29 PM GMT en Julio 30, 2009    
Can someone post a definitive models link? I've got some piece meal but I'd think there was a site that would feature them all in one place. Speaking of models, are any of them showing any development in the next week?

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1191. sullivanweather 8:30 PM GMT en Julio 30, 2009    
Quoting StormW:


Thanks Sulli!



No problem!

Amazing the similarities between July 1891 and July 2009.
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1192. DDR 8:31 PM GMT en Julio 30, 2009    
Hey everyone,
It raining in Trinidad,we've crossed the 300mm mark for the first time in months.
The itcz thinks we're a toilet bowl.
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1193. futuremet 8:33 PM GMT en Julio 30, 2009    
Quoting WeatherStudent:
I hate to continue to bother you here, FM. But that means, that after mid-august or so, the real danger will begin for the conus, sort of speak. true or false?


I don't really know WS...I don't really know. The last of the GEFS forecast shows the trough weakening somewhat, and shows the A/B high ridging in near the east coast. The problem with this is that the forecast is too far away, which makes such an outcome improbable, and we do not if the trough will further weaken.

More images:
288hrs




360hrs
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1194. BurnedAfterPosting 8:35 PM GMT en Julio 30, 2009    
For those wondering the 1891 hurricane season had 10 storms, 7 Hurricanes and 1 Major Hurricane

1 in July, the 2nd storm formed on August 17th

There were 4 US Landfalls

#1 in Texas
#3, #7 and #8 in Florida (#3 was a major in Florida and weakened quickly, other 2 were TS)
#9 hit the Lesser Antilles and Leewards
1195. mikatnight 8:38 PM GMT en Julio 30, 2009    
Quoting hurricanejunky:
Can someone post a definitive models link? I've got some piece meal but I'd think there was a site that would feature them all in one place. Speaking of models, are any of them showing any development in the next week?



Chech the swimsuit addition of SI.
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1196. CycloneOz 8:39 PM GMT en Julio 30, 2009    
Quoting mikatnight:


..I'd just shorten it where possible to try and get it down to 60 or (gulp) 30 seconds (maybe different versions). It's quite dramatic, which is exactly what you want for that kind of message. Get people's attention, keep it, and make 'em remember it.


I actually did the 5 minute length on purpose, too. That length of time makes the video somewhat tedious...and demonstrates how relentless a hurricane experience is. Literally, hour after hour of terrible winds will drive you crazy...and I wanted a bit of that "crazy" feel to the video.

That's why it's so long...I made it purposefully uncomfortable to watch.
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1200. futuremet 8:41 PM GMT en Julio 30, 2009    
1197 WS

Yes, but the TUTT should be in the Caribbean by that time. So, it would be weak if it managed to recurve toward the SE U.S.
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