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97L growing more organized, will bring heavy rain to the Lesser Antilles
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 3:55 PM GMT en Julio 19, 2009 +1
The tropical wave near 12N 52W, about 600 miles east of the Lesser Antilles Islands (97 L), has grown more organized this morning as it tracks west at about 20 mph. This wave is surrounded by an area of very dry air from the Sahara Desert, but 97L has been able to steadily moisten a large region of the atmosphere over the past day, insulating itself from the dry air. This moistening process has been aided by sea surface temperatures (SSTs) that have steadily increased from 26.5°C to 27.5°C, plus the presence of only 10 knots of wind shear. The system now has a small area of intense thunderstorms near its center, with some rotation of the cloud pattern evident at mid-levels of the atmosphere. An upper-level outflow channel has opened to the north, and there is evidence that surface spiral bands are beginning to form. This morning's QuikSCAT pass missed 97L, so we don't know what is happening at the surface.

Wind shear is a modest 10 knots over the disturbance, and is forecast to remain in the moderate 10 - 15 knot range through Monday morning. This should allow further development to occur today, and 97L could be approaching tropical depression strength on Monday as it moves through the central Lesser Antilles Islands. Monday night, shear is expected to rise to 20 - 30 knots, thanks to the presence of a trough of low pressure at upper levels of the atmosphere over the eastern Caribbean. Since 97L is a relatively small system, it is very vulnerable to wind shear. This shear may be able to drive some of the dry air west of 97L deep into its interior, significantly disrupting the disturbance. Shear will remain high along 97L's path through Thursday, when the storm should be in the western Caribbean near Cuba. If there is anything left of 97L by then, some development is possible. The National Hurricane Center gave 97L a low (less than 30% chance) of developing into a tropical depression in the next 48 hours in their 8am Tropical Weather Outlook. However, I'd say the odds are now in the medium range (30 - 50%).

None of the computer models are forecasting tropical storm development over the next seven days.


Figure 1. Current satellite image of African wave 97L.

I'll have an update Monday morning. As 97L approaches the islands, you may want to follow local observations there using our wundermap for 97L.

Jeff Masters
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2251. canesrule1 12:10 PM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Good Morning, Looking at 97L now and winds are up on the quikscat and convection is definitely up on the DMAX even though its in a unfavorable area lets wait and see this just might surprise us.
2252. SLU 12:11 PM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Quoting victoria780:
Is this a Invest anymore?Do they drop it when they dont update the graphics?


Yeh it will be reclassified at 12Z. Don't be surprised if the winds are increased to at least 30kts.
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2253. alaina1085 12:12 PM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Quoting StormW:


I'm good! How about you and that cute little guy?


Oh he is good now, we had a rough night tho :/
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2254. SLU 12:12 PM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Quoting alaina1085:

Sun seems to be rising as we speak, should be another pleasent day... definite lay out weather! LOL



Good Morning Storm! How are you?


lol ok. it's sunny over here for now... waiting to see what 97L has to offer.
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2255. willdunc79 12:13 PM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
SLU what time is 12Z in EST?
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2256. alaina1085 12:13 PM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Quoting SLU:


lol ok. it's sunny over here for now... waiting to see what 97L has to offer.


Where are you located?
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2257. wunderkidcayman 12:15 PM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Quoting canesrule1:
Good Morning, Looking at 97L now and winds are up on the quikscat and convection is definitely up on the DMAX even though its in a unfavorable area lets wait and see this just might surprise us.

you got a point
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2258. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 12:15 PM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
033

WHXX04 KWBC 200523

CHGQLM

ATTENTION...NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER



NCEP COUPLED GFDL HURRICANE MODEL FORECAST MADE FOR



TROPICAL DEPRESSION INVEST 97L



INITIAL TIME 0Z JUL 20



DISCLAIMER ... THIS INFORMATION IS PROVIDED AS GUIDANCE. IT

REQUIRES INTERPRETATION BY HURRICANE SPECIALISTS AND SHOULD

NOT BE CONSIDERED AS A FINAL PRODUCT. PLEASE SEE THE TPC/NHC

OFFICIAL FORECAST.





FORECAST STORM POSITION



HOUR LATITUDE LONGITUDE HEADING/SPEED(KT)



0 12.1 54.2 280./17.1

6 11.2 56.6 250./25.8



STORM DISSIPATED AT 6 HRS AT THE ABOVE PSN.
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2259. stormsurge39 12:15 PM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
It looks like its leaving shear behind?
2261. SLU 12:16 PM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
I am in St. Lucia. 12z is 8:00am EST
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2262. stormsurge39 12:18 PM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
What does 12z mean?
2263. canesrule1 12:18 PM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Quoting stormsurge39:
It looks like its leaving shear behind?
no it's not, this is heading WNW (well at least the latitude is increasing northward) its only going to get itself in even more shear.
2264. alaina1085 12:19 PM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Quoting StormW:


Rough night...weatherwise?


No LOL.. I wish. Julian had an upset stomach, just put it at that..LOL.
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2265. stoormfury 12:20 PM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
the mid level circulation is now under the heaviest convection. leadind edge of 97L about 4 hrs away from SLU
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2266. alaina1085 12:20 PM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Quoting SLU:
I am in St. Lucia. 12z is 8:00am EST


Ugh, your so lucky. You get to live in paradise everyday...
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2268. louisianaboy444 12:21 PM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Shear does't look to be favorable for a good while and i see no evidence of an anticyclone developing so this thing would need a prayer don't get me wrong i've seen it happen before (We all remember Barry lol) It is pretty much a wait and see game...how is everyone this morning
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2269. stormsurge39 12:21 PM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
It also looks like the whole system is still turning with alot of convection! Does its chances get any better if it survives today? someone please enlighten me.
2270. barbadosjulie 12:22 PM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
How far away is the leading edge from Barbados? When should we start to see the effect? Right now it is a bit overcast but i can still see the sun here. It was pouring earlier but that has stopped.
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2271. alaina1085 12:22 PM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Quoting StormW:


Hope he feels better.

Thanks Storm, me too.

Quoting louisianaboy444:
Shear does't look to be favorable for a good while and i see no evidence of an anticyclone developing so this thing would need a prayer don't get me wrong i've seen it happen before (We all remember Barry lol) It is pretty much a wait and see game...how is everyone this morning


Im doing fabulous, how about yourself :)
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2272. SLU 12:22 PM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Quoting alaina1085:


Ugh, your so lucky. You get to live in paradise everyday...


lol .... ever been to St. Lucia before?
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2273. sebastianflorida 12:23 PM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
I think Just east of bahamas looks interesting; if I was in Carolinas I'd keep an eye on this area moving your way.
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2274. alaina1085 12:24 PM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Quoting SLU:


lol .... ever been to St. Lucia before?


Sadly no, I havent been out of the country yet. Something on my to do list in life. But I hear its beautiful.
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2275. beell 12:26 PM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
2258. KOG,

Quite the model run. 97L last seen moving SW at 26 knots!



0 12.1 54.2 280./17.1

6 11.2 56.6 250./25.8

STORM DISSIPATED AT 6 HRS AT THE ABOVE PSN.
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2276. SLU 12:26 PM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
The "z" in 12Z stands for Zulu time, its the same as GMT and UTC (Universal Time Coordinated)

Julie

Barbados should get some heavy wind and rains shortly.

The leading edge of the heavy convection is a few hours away from the rest of the islands.
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2277. HIEXPRESS 12:28 PM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Hanging around in SRQ, not fishing.
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2279. louisianaboy444 12:30 PM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Does the GFS do anything with this system because the one i'm looking at drops the system immediately
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2280. IKE 12:32 PM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Quoting louisianaboy444:
Does the GFS do anything with this system because the one i'm looking at drops the system immediately


Nope.

Shows nothing through the rest of July...tropically.
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2281. ftpiercecane 12:33 PM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Quoting sebastianflorida:
I think Just east of bahamas looks interesting; if I was in Carolinas I'd keep an eye on this area moving your way.

Yeah, I was looking at that also. A lot of moisture in that area.
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2282. alaina1085 12:33 PM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Quoting IKE:


Nope.

Shows nothing through the rest of July...tropically.

Ike, so far your prediction for the season is coming true..lol.
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2283. Orcasystems 12:35 PM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    


Shear is having fun with 97
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2284. SLU 12:35 PM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Quoting alaina1085:


Sadly no, I havent been out of the country yet. Something on my to do list in life. But I hear its beautiful.


Ok. try a Caribbean cruise. You'll love it.
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2285. IKE 12:36 PM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Quoting alaina1085:

Ike, so far your prediction for the season is coming true..lol.


It'll ramp up in August. Mid-August through mid-October is when the action is...
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2286. alaina1085 12:37 PM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Quoting SLU:


Ok. try a Caribbean cruise. You'll love it.


I plan on it, thanks.
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2289. Chicklit 12:37 PM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Quoting stormsurge39:
It also looks like the whole system is still turning with alot of convection! Does its chances get any better if it survives today? someone please enlighten me.

97L is not in an environment conducive to tropical development because the shear is just too high. You can expect rain, some gusty winds, but nothing tropical force IMHO.
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2290. Tazmanian 12:38 PM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Quoting Orcasystems:


Shear is having fun with 97


lol
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2291. louisianaboy444 12:39 PM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
This could possibly be 97L's last day of existence we will have to see! I'm out like a fat kid in dodgeball see you guys at noonish!
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2292. stormpetrol 12:41 PM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
97L has proven to be real sneaky, you have to watch anything thats sneaky.
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2293. hurricaneben 12:44 PM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
One possible path takes 97L right towards Southeast Florida.
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2294. weathermanwannabe 12:48 PM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Quoting leftovers:
not that bad it will fill up the cisterns


Thanks......I did not know if you Folks down there needed more rain or not....Hope it's not too bumpy for you however.
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2295. Orcasystems 12:49 PM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Quoting hurricaneben:
One possible path takes 97L right towards Southeast Florida.


The present early Tracks go from as far as south of Cancun to missing Florida to the east... so basically... pick a spot.
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2296. extreme236 12:50 PM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
AL, 97, 2009072012, , BEST, 0, 131N, 576W, 25, 1010,
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2297. HurricaneKing 12:51 PM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Quoting Orcasystems:


The present early Tracks go from as far as south of Cancun to missing Florida to the east... so basically... pick a spot.


I'm thinking missing Florida to the east as it will probably get snatched into the pooling energy over the Bahamas.
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2298. extreme236 12:53 PM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
TAFB, GR, VI, 5, 1515 /////, , , GOES12, CSC, T, DT = 1.5 BASED ON 0.3 BANDING
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2299. Tazmanian 12:53 PM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
this 97L is driveing us all nuts


1st its gos poof



then it comes back then it gos poof so on so on so on
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2300. beell 12:53 PM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
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2301. extreme236 12:54 PM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
00Z GFS shear forecast showed low to moderate shear in 97L's path...even though thats not what it looks like right now...
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