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97L growing more organized, will bring heavy rain to the Lesser Antilles
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 3:55 PM GMT en Julio 19, 2009 +1
The tropical wave near 12N 52W, about 600 miles east of the Lesser Antilles Islands (97 L), has grown more organized this morning as it tracks west at about 20 mph. This wave is surrounded by an area of very dry air from the Sahara Desert, but 97L has been able to steadily moisten a large region of the atmosphere over the past day, insulating itself from the dry air. This moistening process has been aided by sea surface temperatures (SSTs) that have steadily increased from 26.5°C to 27.5°C, plus the presence of only 10 knots of wind shear. The system now has a small area of intense thunderstorms near its center, with some rotation of the cloud pattern evident at mid-levels of the atmosphere. An upper-level outflow channel has opened to the north, and there is evidence that surface spiral bands are beginning to form. This morning's QuikSCAT pass missed 97L, so we don't know what is happening at the surface.

Wind shear is a modest 10 knots over the disturbance, and is forecast to remain in the moderate 10 - 15 knot range through Monday morning. This should allow further development to occur today, and 97L could be approaching tropical depression strength on Monday as it moves through the central Lesser Antilles Islands. Monday night, shear is expected to rise to 20 - 30 knots, thanks to the presence of a trough of low pressure at upper levels of the atmosphere over the eastern Caribbean. Since 97L is a relatively small system, it is very vulnerable to wind shear. This shear may be able to drive some of the dry air west of 97L deep into its interior, significantly disrupting the disturbance. Shear will remain high along 97L's path through Thursday, when the storm should be in the western Caribbean near Cuba. If there is anything left of 97L by then, some development is possible. The National Hurricane Center gave 97L a low (less than 30% chance) of developing into a tropical depression in the next 48 hours in their 8am Tropical Weather Outlook. However, I'd say the odds are now in the medium range (30 - 50%).

None of the computer models are forecasting tropical storm development over the next seven days.


Figure 1. Current satellite image of African wave 97L.

I'll have an update Monday morning. As 97L approaches the islands, you may want to follow local observations there using our wundermap for 97L.

Jeff Masters
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2151. TheWeatherMan504 7:49 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Quoting weatherwatcher12:
The convergence has increased too


The increase in convergence is likely diurnal.
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2152. weatherwatcher12 7:52 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Quoting TheWeatherMan504:


The increase in convergence is likely diurnal.

Probably, but last time we had none so it must be improving
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2153. weatherwatcher12 7:56 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
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2154. weatherwatcher12 7:58 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
We got a buoy dropping like a rock just wnw of our invest:
Wind Direction (WDIR): ENE ( 70 deg true )
24-hour plot - Wind Speed Wind Speed (WSPD): 22.9 kts
24-hour plot - Wave Height Wave Height (WVHT): 7.9 ft
24-hour plot - Dominant Wave Period Dominant Wave Period (DPD): 8 sec
24-hour plot - Atmospheric Pressure Atmospheric Pressure (PRES): 29.88 in
24-hour plot - Pressure Tendency Pressure Tendency (PTDY): -0.04 in ( Falling )
24-hour plot - Air Temperature Air Temperature (ATMP): 80.8 F
24-hour plot - Water Temperature Water Temperature (WTMP): 81.1 F
24-hour plot - Dew Point Dew Point (DEWP): 75.7 F
24-hour plot - Heat Index Heat Index (HEAT): 86.7 F
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2155. weatherwatcher12 7:59 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
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2156. weatherwatcher12 8:05 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
A ship just reported a pressure of 1010 millibars near the invest
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2157. TampaSpin 8:07 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
its pouring at the house
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2158. weatherwatcher12 8:07 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
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2159. weatherwatcher12 8:08 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Quoting TampaSpin:
its pouring at the house

That was a pretty big shower
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2160. weatherwatcher12 8:10 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Approaching DMAX
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2161. homelesswanderer 8:12 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Sheap Lol. I mean shear. Comparisons. Depending on which you choose. It may get better or worse. Lol. Didn't realize they were so different.

http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~gadomski/COMPSHEARATL_0z/comploop.html

That wind/pressure chart sre shows that pressure tanking. Kinda hard to deny that.
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2162. weatherwatcher12 8:15 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Quoting homelesswanderer:
Sheap Comparisons. Depending on which you choose. It may get better or worse. Lol. Didn't realize they were so different.

http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~gadomski/COMPSHEARATL_0z/comploop.html

That wind/pressure chart sre shows that pressure tanking. Kinda hard to deny that.

Yeah, and so does that ship report
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2163. homelesswanderer 8:16 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Quoting weatherwatcher12:

Yeah, and so does that ship report


yep.
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2164. weatherwatcher12 8:17 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Good night. We will see what is happening with our invest in the morning.
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2165. natrwalkn 8:19 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Quoting weatherwatcher12:
Approaching DMAX


What is DMAX?
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2166. weatherwatcher12 8:23 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Quoting natrwalkn:


What is DMAX?

When cloud tops cool and convection explodes. Strongest just before suunrise
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2167. homelesswanderer 9:02 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Now I could be completely wrong about this. And I know its dmax. But it looks like 97L is pulling the clouds/convection from the NW trying to wrap them around itself. Anyway its interesting. :)
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2168. willdunc79 9:22 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Is shear suppose to be high in the carib.? If it's as high as they say it's suppose to be then this is the final hoorah for 97L and the wave out behind it could maybe become 98L.
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2169. victoria780 9:23 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Quoting weatherwatcher12:

When cloud tops cool and convection explodes. Strongest just before suunrise
DMAX is this Dirunal Maximum ?
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2170. victoria780 9:26 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Quoting willdunc79:
Is shear suppose to be high in the carib.? If it's as high as they say it's suppose to be then this is the final hoorah for 97L and the wave out behind it could maybe become 98L.
Looks like the upper level feature to the north is slightly pulling away,in which 97l might enter a area of favorable conditions???
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2171. victoria780 9:30 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Quoting weatherwatcher12:
I think I see what could be an anti-cyclone forming in the central Caribbean
Looks like this is true,after 97L goes by the upper air feature it might make it into a anticyclone,which may at 1st be detrimental then more positive for growth..I post at this time of the morning in case Im wrong ,not many viewers..LOL
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2172. stormdude77 9:38 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
good morning from Barbados

It's raining very heavily here now along with occasional gusty winds. Will get worse as the day goes on....
2173. AstroHurricane001 10:20 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
The NHC says 97L is becoming less organised. What are they talking about? Convection seems to have flared up in just the last two hours.
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2174. HadesGodWyvern 10:21 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
India Meteorological Department
Tropical Cyclone Bulletin Number TWO
DEPRESSION BOB03-2009
11:30 AM IST July 20 2009
===================================

Subject: Depression over northwest Bay of Bengal

At 6:00 AM UTC, Depression BOB03-2009 over northwest Bay of Bengal remained practically stationary and lay centered near 21.0N 88.5E, about 120 km southeast of Digha, 160 km east-southeast of Balasore and 200 km southwest of Khepupara (Bangladesh).

The system is likely to intensify further and move in a west-northwesterly direction and cross north Orissa-West Bengal coast between Balasore and Digha today

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2175. MahFL 10:22 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Dr M says conditions will improve then get a lot worse, 30 kts of shear will kill 97.
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2176. HadesGodWyvern 10:27 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
don't think it is going to become a deep depression with the way it looks now.
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2177. futuremet 10:29 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Quoting AstroHurricane001:
The NHC says 97L is becoming less organised. What are they talking about? Convection seems to have flared up in just the last two hours.


That convection is induced by diurnal maximum and upper level diffluence. If it can make it through today, then we have something to watch.
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2178. HadesGodWyvern 10:30 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    


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2179. STORMMASTERG 10:36 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
The storm is currently under about 20 to 25kt shear about 10kt more than i expected it to be tonight.Shear has reached its max for the enxt 3 to 4 days over this system.SShear will begin lifting today from the latest runs of wrf model.
2180. stoormfury 10:39 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
morning
convection is once again on the increase with 97L. this morning"s infra red pics are showing that 97L was able to fight off the high shear and retain it"s structure. water vapour loops show that the system is now at the base of the trough which is giving it some breathing space. last night 97L moved southwest for awhile but has resumed a west course shear is still 20 knots over the system and that will prevent much organisation. deveopment or not the system will bring heavy rains to barbados and the central windwards with gusts near storm force, most of today and a portion of tomorrow
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2181. gwadaman 10:41 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Good Morning Barbados, our system seems to have slowed a bit and convection is firing again as we hit DMAX. Rotation is still evident and she's in the sweet spot now, should be an interesting morning.

Current conditions are cloudy with light winds ENE with periods of heavy rain.

Info taken from Station 41101

Wind Direction (WDIR): E ( 80 deg true )
Wind Speed (WSPD): 22.9 kts
Wave Height (WVHT): 6.6 ft
Dominant Wave Period (DPD): 7 sec
Atmospheric Pressure (PRES): 29.90 in
Pressure Tendency (PTDY): +0.02 in ( Rising )
Air Temperature (ATMP): 81.3 °F
Water Temperature (WTMP): 81.5 °F
Dew Point (DEWP): 75.6 °F
Heat Index (HEAT): 87.8 °F
Combined plot of Wind Speed, Gust, and Air Pressure
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2182. stormdude77 10:45 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
raining here with strong wind gusts...
2184. willdunc79 10:48 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
the wave @ 32w 7n could/should become 98L sometime today if it sticks to the trend of how it's doing now.
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2185. willdunc79 10:49 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
true but Leftovers not def. written in stone
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2186. stormdude77 10:50 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
2188. beell 10:53 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Tropical Update:
Quiet.
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2189. PensacolaDoug 10:54 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Quoting leftovers:
remember old rule if tw does not develop before the islands it wont


rgr that.


eastern carrib is the dead zone...
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2190. sullivanweather 10:57 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Whew! Looks like 97L is walking headlong into a gale in November. Look at her hair fly!
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2192. Cavin Rawlins 10:59 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
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2193. stoormfury 11:07 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
bright and sunny with winds of 15 mph this carnival monday. few are are inform about 97L and the impending weather. it will be a total surprise when the weather starts to go down hill
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2194. WxLogic 11:08 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Good Morning...
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2195. sporteguy03 11:10 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Hi Wx,
After more rambling about shear in a day the end result is that 97L is still there effected by shear but there.
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2196. naplesdreamer28 11:13 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
I think we may get a little surprise from 97L. It's still holding on fairly well in my opinion.
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2197. SLU 11:16 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    


No closed surface low but unflagged tropical storm force winds! Plus it appears to be getting better organised on satellite pictures.

Morning guys
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2198. gwadaman 11:17 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Quoting Weather456:
Good Morning;

Tropical Invest 97L heads for the Windward Islands



Good update W456, Have to say I follow your post closely.
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2199. willdunc79 11:23 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
group question. How can you tell when a tropical wave/system has convection that is from shear versus building it's own convection?
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2200. crownwx 11:23 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Crown Weather Tropical Weather Discussion: Link
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2201. WxLogic 11:27 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Seems 97L has finally hit the trough.

Now one interesting thing to note is that the time and location of this meeting point should prove interesting... since in my point of view 97L is in the eastern side of the trough which at this time is the worst part and later today it should a not so head on position with the shear... so should be interesting to see if the DMAX/Diffluence induced convection can stick around while it enters the E/C Carib. Of course not saying conditions are favorable in the CARIB as there's still shear left in there...

Also just in case... I've combined the latest 850MB through 500MB level VORT MAX charts and you can see the mid level shear has been displaced from the low shear VORT MAX due to shear.

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