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97L growing more organized, will bring heavy rain to the Lesser Antilles
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 3:55 PM GMT en Julio 19, 2009 +1
The tropical wave near 12N 52W, about 600 miles east of the Lesser Antilles Islands (97 L), has grown more organized this morning as it tracks west at about 20 mph. This wave is surrounded by an area of very dry air from the Sahara Desert, but 97L has been able to steadily moisten a large region of the atmosphere over the past day, insulating itself from the dry air. This moistening process has been aided by sea surface temperatures (SSTs) that have steadily increased from 26.5°C to 27.5°C, plus the presence of only 10 knots of wind shear. The system now has a small area of intense thunderstorms near its center, with some rotation of the cloud pattern evident at mid-levels of the atmosphere. An upper-level outflow channel has opened to the north, and there is evidence that surface spiral bands are beginning to form. This morning's QuikSCAT pass missed 97L, so we don't know what is happening at the surface.

Wind shear is a modest 10 knots over the disturbance, and is forecast to remain in the moderate 10 - 15 knot range through Monday morning. This should allow further development to occur today, and 97L could be approaching tropical depression strength on Monday as it moves through the central Lesser Antilles Islands. Monday night, shear is expected to rise to 20 - 30 knots, thanks to the presence of a trough of low pressure at upper levels of the atmosphere over the eastern Caribbean. Since 97L is a relatively small system, it is very vulnerable to wind shear. This shear may be able to drive some of the dry air west of 97L deep into its interior, significantly disrupting the disturbance. Shear will remain high along 97L's path through Thursday, when the storm should be in the western Caribbean near Cuba. If there is anything left of 97L by then, some development is possible. The National Hurricane Center gave 97L a low (less than 30% chance) of developing into a tropical depression in the next 48 hours in their 8am Tropical Weather Outlook. However, I'd say the odds are now in the medium range (30 - 50%).

None of the computer models are forecasting tropical storm development over the next seven days.


Figure 1. Current satellite image of African wave 97L.

I'll have an update Monday morning. As 97L approaches the islands, you may want to follow local observations there using our wundermap for 97L.

Jeff Masters
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1601. JRRP 12:51 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
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1603. CosmicEvents 12:52 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Seems (generally) to be true that the older folk((myself included..lol) have said consistntly from the start of this on again off again invest, that it's something to keep a wary eye on.
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1604. JRRP 12:52 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
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1605. Nolehead 12:53 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
1603. CosmicEvents 12:52 AM GMT on July 20, 2009
Seems (generally) to be true that the older folk((myself included..lol) have said consistntly from the start of this on again off again invest, that it's something to keep a wary eye on.


couldn't agree anymore......
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1606. SLU 12:54 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Quoting Weather456:



heck, sometimes I lay a night thinking of a Caribbean NWS, establising better weather observing networks, warning systems, etc, across the region. Maybe one day, the resources will show up to start one.


Yeh man .. we'll be the 1st two onboard
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1607. Ossqss 12:54 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
I would offer this, Weather456 and Drakoen, we value your input very much along with many others input. I hope we can continue to enjoy the pleasure of your presence as we move forward. I cannot speak for anyone but myself, but I thank you for what you do for all of us. It is appreciated, desired, and very educational. The same respect to others who provide exceptional input -- :)

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1608. STORMMASTERG 12:56 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
1609. BurnedAfterPosting 12:59 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Quoting STORMMASTERG:


I see 20-30 knots of shear in the southern caribbean in that model too
1610. BahaHurican 1:00 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Evening all. I see 97L has been holding its own. Anyone with thoughts that it might survive the CAR shear?
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1611. Relix 1:00 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
What the heck is up with 97L? =P
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1612. KoritheMan 1:01 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Quoting BahaHurican:
Evening all. I see 97L has been holding its own. Anyone with thoughts that it might survive the CAR shear?


I think it has the potential to, but it's a slim one, given its small size.

I think that it has the best chance to develop at around 75W in the next few days.
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1613. CosmicEvents 1:01 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Quoting Ossqss:
I would offer this, Weather456 and Drakoen, we value your input very much along with many others input. I hope we can continue to enjoy the pleasure of your presence as we move forward. I cannot speak for anyone but myself, but I thank you for what you do for all of us. It is appreciated, desired, and very educational. The same respect to others who provide exceptional input -- :)


What....no love for those who provide common sense input? There's plenty of room for both.
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1614. STORMMASTERG 1:02 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
That shear lifts,play the model run igave the link before.
1615. STORMMASTERG 1:03 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Link 18Z WRF SHEAR.
1616. CaneWarning 1:04 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Bay News 9 has their own model and they show "tropical moisture" going through the Bahamas and off the east coast of Florida.
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1617. IKE 1:07 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Ain't much left, right now...

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1618. KoritheMan 1:07 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
I'm surprised no one has mentioned the northern Gulf of Mexico trough yet. Upper winds may be marginally favorable for slow development over the next few days. But in case anyone is wondering, it is not going to remain in the Gulf for very long, as the steering flow will carry it eastward across the Florida peninsula and into the western Atlantic over the next few days.

This is also climatologically possible, and Edouard last year formed from a similar situation at a similar time of year.
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1619. Ossqss 1:07 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Quoting CosmicEvents:

What....no love for those who provide common sense input? There's plenty of room for both.


You did not get banned for fighting, LoL

No kidding, there is a huge amount of talent here and it should not be stifled by disagreement.

Just my take.


Edit, I asked about the sloppy trough earlier in the GOM. Looks familiar to me.
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1620. Mikla 1:08 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
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1621. alaina1085 1:08 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Quoting KoritheMan:
I'm surprised no one has mentioned the northern Gulf of Mexico trough yet. Upper winds may be marginally favorable for slow development over the next few days. But in case anyone is wondering, it is not going to remain in the Gulf for very long, as the steering flow will carry it eastward across the Florida peninsula and into the western Atlantic over the next few days.

This is also climatologically possible, and Edouard last year formed from a similar situation at a similar time of year.


I been watching it!
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1622. CosmicEvents 1:09 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Quoting Ossqss:


You did not get banned for fighting, LoL

No kidding, there is a huge amount of talent here and it should not be stifled by disagreement.

Just my take.

I agree...and also your own input this year has been a good addition.
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1623. Sockets 1:10 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
I see 97l has felt the wrath of Bill Gates
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1624. StormJunkie 1:11 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Evening all

Ike, I agree...Looks pretty ragged right now and it won't survive shear looking like that. It is going to have to really take advantage of diurnal cooling if it is going to make it through any significant shear.
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1625. BenBIogger 1:12 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Quoting STORMMASTERG:
Link 18Z WRF SHEAR.


Please enough with the wrf model
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1626. CaneWarning 1:12 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Could we be witnessing RIP #2?
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1627. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 1:12 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    


latest 901 pm edt wv image enhanced
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1628. alaina1085 1:13 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Quoting StormJunkie:
Evening all

Ike, I agree...Looks pretty ragged right now and it won't survive shear looking like that. It is going to have to really take advantage of diurnal cooling if it is going to make it through any significant shear.


I have been wanting to say how adorable I think your son is. I have a 2 year old son as well. Arent they just so much fun? (and work lol)
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1630. stormwatcherCI 1:14 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
I think we need to watch the wave(blob)east of 30 w although it is pretty far south looks pretty healthy.
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1631. BurnedAfterPosting 1:14 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
97L still has good rotation, it lost some convection, some is starting to build already, it is a long way away from DMAX, if it can keep building it might be able to survive

structure of the system still looks good, just an hour ago the NHC said it "continued to get better organized", so lets go with that for now.
1632. alaina1085 1:14 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Quoting StormW:


1544. StormW 8:21 PM EDT on July 19, 2009
Quoting Nolehead:
StormW

what's your feel on the convection in the GOM...

Looks like the energy that's supposed to be left behind when the trof split occurs. The upper level environment is forecast at the moment not to be that conducive over the GOMEX.



Thanks Storm, I missed this post.
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1633. StormJunkie 1:14 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Thanks alania! He is a blast :~) He is 7.5 months and just started saying umamma and igda (daddy) I think...lol
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1634. KoritheMan 1:14 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Quoting StormW:


1544. StormW 8:21 PM EDT on July 19, 2009
Quoting Nolehead:
StormW

what's your feel on the convection in the GOM...

Looks like the energy that's supposed to be left behind when the trof split occurs. The upper level environment is forecast at the moment not to be that conducive over the GOMEX.



I should have known you would notice it before me, Storm. :P
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1635. Barbados 1:14 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Come on 97L. At least bring us something to cool us down.
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1636. BenBIogger 1:15 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Quoting CaneWarning:
Could we be witnessing RIP #2?


Yep and than "omg its a td" tomorrow morning

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1637. KoritheMan 1:16 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Quoting StormJunkie:
Thanks alania! He is a blast :~) He is 7.5 months and just started saying umamma and igda (daddy) I think...lol


Your son is adorable, SJ. :)
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1638. surfmom 1:16 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Quoting Sockets:
I see 97l has felt the wrath of Bill Gates
Mr. Gates needs to keep his hands on his Motherboard --not Mother Nature . 'cause she'll spit him and the rest of us out out in heartbeat --should she be in the mood
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1639. IKE 1:16 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Quoting CaneWarning:
Could we be witnessing RIP #2?


Yes.

BREAKING NEWS: It's raining at my house as cloud tops are cooling.

Rain and 76.3 outside my window as I type.
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1640. alaina1085 1:17 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Quoting StormJunkie:
Thanks alania! He is a blast :~) He is 7.5 months and just started saying umamma and igda (daddy) I think...lol


LOL! I miss Julian being that small. Well at least your son is attempting daddy. Julian calls his daddy by his name! LOL. Something he picked up on his own from hearing everyone call him by his name instead of daddy.
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1641. surfmom 1:17 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Quoting Barbados:
Come on 97L. At least bring us something to cool us down.


perhaps some ground swell - I like
'dem TS's not 'canes ..but a little TS would make me happy
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1642. StormJunkie 1:18 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Evening BAP...

I agree, the structure is much improved over yesterday and it did manage to keep at least some convection for most of the day. All up to the night time cooling now.Also looks like it might be starting to feel the shear a little more.
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1643. pcolasky 1:18 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Ode to 97L?
1644. weatherwatcher12 1:19 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
New CIMSS maps in 21 minutes
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1645. Ossqss 1:19 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
StormW, when was the last time you saw a sat with the hard turn over the GoM like this ?

It looks impressive now, and I really don't remember a time as such.

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1646. WxLogic 1:19 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Quoting IKE:


Yes.

BREAKING NEWS: It's raining at my house as cloud tops are cooling.

Rain and 76.3 outside my window as I type.


lol!!!
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1647. pottery 1:21 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Greetings.
No rains for me today in central Trinidad, but some heavy showers, for long periods, along the north of the island, and heavy rains in Tobago, Grenada, St.Vincent.
The system looks pretty unhealthy now, at d-min, will it pull itself back together tonight?
I have my doubts, now.
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1648. StormJunkie 1:21 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Pretty weak, but well defined...



Microwave pass that is under 2 hours old.
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1650. WxLogic 1:22 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Hi Pot...
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1651. barbadosjulie 1:22 AM GMT en Julio 20, 2009    
Should Barbados get any rain out of this?
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