Area forecast discussion National Weather Service Albany New York 321 am EDT Wednesday may 22 2013 Synopsis... low pressure will move from the Great Lakes region today into the Saint Lawrence valley Thursday. Warm humid conditions will persist into Thursday with showers and thunderstorms. Thursday a strong cold front will push slowly through New York and New England. Low pressure will form along this front on the coast Friday...as much colder air pours into the region. Friday night the storm will move offshore as high pressure builds into the Great Lakes region for the Memorial Day weekend. It will bring fair weather with unseasonably cool temperatures for the weekend. && Near term /through tonight/... line of thunderstorms east of I-88 corridor moving through fca at this time. Mainly heavy rain and freq lightning. Areas of moderate rain extend behind it. Most areas to be impacted will see another 0.5 to 1.O inch of rain bringing totals for today up to 2-3 inches in most areas impacted with some isolated 4 inch amounts. Areal Flood Advisory has been issued from mhwk valley and adjacent areas into S Vermont/Berkshire County for overnight to cover any small stream and urban flooding. This line should exit most of upstate New York/Vermont and west Massachusetts next 1.5 to 2 hours...except Catskills and middle Hudson Valley where it is just arriving in areas that have not had much precipitation at all or since since late Tuesday afternoon. It should then diminish and end overnight At surface warm front is lifting NE through fca overnight and will be along north tier or north of region Wednesday morning. It will move to St Lawrence Valley to Michigan line...as weak low pressure forms along and propagates up it today. This leaves fca in warm sector with alot of residual low level moisture/clouds from Tuesday convection With dew point in 60s...temperatures rebounding to 80s...variable clouds the threat of thunderstorms increases through the day. Local WRF/hrrr which handled todays event well...show a mainly cellular and pulse response today in simulated refl. GFS produces surface convective available potential energy on the order of 1000-2000 j/kg the NAM 2000-4000 j/kg with a define preference from the capital district S & east and the mhwk valley. NAM and GFS show h850-700 lapse rates around 6.5 this afternoon. Going to hrrr for the late aftn: Pou/alb/gfl cape 2000/1812/1777 j/kg maximum wind 33/33/40 ehi of 1.6/1.5/1.2 storm speed 24/18/18 srh 175/156/106 maglenta 1.75/2.17/2.44 all major severe Which is considerably stronger looking than hrrr refl. The NAM model soundings and WRF model soundings are considerably lower in cape around 1000-1200 j/kg. Precipitable waters will continue to run a few Standard deviations above normal with values of 1.50-1.8 inches. Some other considerations low level jet at h850 hpa is 25-35kts...and bulk of it may pass west of fca. There is little additional upper forcing. Storm Prediction Center has outlooked New York portions of fca at this point will not try to get specific...will go with enhanced wording today. If theres a preferred area it would mhwk valley and S...and a preferred time of later in the afternoon and evening. Convection will continue into the evening hours and dim overnight as fca is firmly in warm section. Lows and dew point will be in the 60s...and areas of patchy fog possible in the morning. && Short term /Thursday through Saturday night/... Thursday and Thursday nt 500hpa trough starts moving east through Great Lakes as surface low organizes along semi-stalled front from from Lake Erie up St Lawrence Valley. This system pushes slowly east dragging a cold front to btv-syr line Thursday afternoon...and through fca by 12utc Friday. NAM/GFS in pretty close agreement with this timing. While there is increasing dynamics with approaching jet and trough...convective available potential energy 1000-1500 ... will be widespread holding maximum temperatures to middle 70s to around 80. Storm Prediction Center has only put area in see text at this time...with low probs due to limited instability. Regardless area will see period of -shra/thunderstorms increasing Thursday...transitioning to -shra/-ra behind the cold front overnight. By Friday morning cold front will be in I-95 corridor along the Atlantic coast. 500hpa trough will be moving into NE USA...and both models develop a modest surface low over New Jersey. The warmth of past few days will give way to a cool breezy with -shra Friday. Finally surface low moves offshore Friday nt as high pressure builds into the Great Lakes. However the 500hpa trough lingers and cuts off over new eng Sat. Between these two systems a brisk northwest gradient will drive some pretty cool air into the region for late may. With 500hpa cut off lingering skies may only be plus Sat in GFS. Temperatures will probably go nowhere Friday...only coming off morning lows a few degree...or holding steady. The weekend forecast is deteriorating... the GFS is progressive with surface low departing the coast Friday nt...with its 500 hpa trough crossing region Sat and departing Sat nt with pc skies and a rather brisk wind gradient. The 00utc European model (ecmwf) cuts off the 500hpa low over New Jersey...develops a coastal low...which lingers along the East Coast for the weekend with periods of raw chilly rain. The GFS temperatures would bring mins Sat morning into the middle 30s to middle 40s with some near 30 and potential frost/freeze issues in adrndks. Highs Sat will only rebound even with the strong sun to the 60s. Lows Sat night would again be in the 30s. Winds will remain brisk. European model (ecmwf) would result in slightly warmer night time temperatures and cooler yet daytime temperatures in middle 50s to low 60s. HPC leans toward a blend with chance probability of precipitation lingering into Sat. It will be a fall like Memorial Day weekend. Will lean toward GFS/HPC blend through Sat. At this time will make no changes beyond Sat nt to minimize flip flopping given the spread in models solutions at this time. && Long term /Sunday through Tuesday/... Canadian high pressure will build into the region Sunday. The high will shift eastward across the region and offshore early next week. Temperatures will gradually moderate as the high shifts to the east with near seasonable temperatures for Monday. The growing season is underway across the middle Hudson Valley... greater capital district...Lake George Saratoga region...the Mohawk Valley...eastern Catskills...Taconics...Berkshires...Bennington and eastern Windham counties Vermont and Litchfield County. It will start on may 25th for the southern Adirondacks and western Windham County. && Aviation /07z Wednesday through Sunday/... accounting for current shower and thunderstorm activity that should continue at kgfl through about 06z...at kalb through about 07z-08z...and kpsf through about 08z. Some MVFR and occasional IFR conditions in the showers and thunderstorms. Some other isolated thunderstorms well west of the area could approach the area between kalb and kpou through sunrise...but with continued stabilization of the atmosphere the thunderstorms could dissipate by then. Once the rain ends early this morning...there could be periods of MVFR fog and VFR ceilings...but scattered clouds could develop below 1000 feet. Will have to monitor for any better clearing toward sunrise that could result in IFR fog and/or ceilings below 1000 feet. For now not indicating any IFR conditions at any taf sites through the early morning hours...but will amend if conditions and trends change. VFR conditions should prevail through most of the day after 12z until new convection develops later in the afternoon and evening. Mixed signals about where the concentration of thunderstorms will be later today so putting vcsh in all tafs after 22z...but more thunderstorm activity expected scattered across the region late tomorrow afternoon and evening. Winds should be light south through sunrise...then become variable at less than 10 knots through the day tomorrow...mainly south to southwest. Winds should be light again tomorrow evening. Winds could be quite gusty in thunderstorms tomorrow afternoon and evening. Outlook... Wednesday...VFR/MVFR. Chance -shra/-tsra especially during the afternoon. Wednesday night...VFR/MVFR. At kgfl and kalb -shra/-tsra likely. At kpsf and kpou chance -shra/-tsra. Thursday...MVFR with IFR possible. -Shra/-tsra likely. Thursday night...VFR/MVFR. Chance -shra/-tsra especially in the evening. Friday...mainly VFR. Chance -tsra mainly in the am. Sat-sun...VFR. No sig weather. && Fire weather... no fire weather concerns through Friday. Occasional showers and thunderstorms will continue through Thursday night. Showers will continue into Friday. Relative humidity values will increase to 85 to 100 percent tonight...and Thursday night...and lower to 45 to 60 percent this afternoon. Winds will mainly less than 10 miles per hour through tonight...becoming southwest around 10mph Thursday. && Hydrology... precipitable waters on the order of 1.5 to 2.0 inches next few days. While widespread flooding is not anticipated...locally heavy rainfall in thunderstorms and training could result in small stream and urban flooding overnight and again this afternoon. Significant within bank rises are likely in larger rivers. 3-hour zonal ffg values are generally in the 2.5-3.0 inch range at this time...which are high for middle to late may. Due to the scattered nature of the showers and thunderstorms... basin average quantitative precipitation forecast will be highly variable this week. The best threat for seeing significant amounts of showers or thunderstorms will this afternoon into Thursday night. For details on specific area rivers and lakes...including observed and forecast river stages and lake elevations...please visit the advanced hydrologic prediction service /ahps/ graphs on our website. && Aly watches/warnings/advisories... CT...none. New York...none. Massachusetts...none. Vermont...none. && $$ Synopsis...Snyder near term...Snyder short term...Snyder long term...iaa aviation...NAS fire weather...Snyder hydrology...Snyder