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NWS Discussion
			
				

Area forecast discussion 
National Weather Service Albany New York 
321 am EDT Wednesday may 22 2013 


Synopsis... 
low pressure will move from the Great Lakes region today into the 
Saint Lawrence valley Thursday. Warm humid conditions will persist 
into Thursday with showers and thunderstorms. Thursday a strong 
cold front will push slowly through New York and New England. Low 
pressure will form along this front on the coast Friday...as much 
colder air pours into the region. Friday night the storm will move 
offshore as high pressure builds into the Great Lakes region for 
the Memorial Day weekend. It will bring fair weather with 
unseasonably cool temperatures for the weekend. 


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Near term /through tonight/... 
line of thunderstorms east of I-88 corridor moving through fca 
at this time. Mainly heavy rain and freq lightning. Areas of moderate rain 
extend behind it. 


Most areas to be impacted will see another 0.5 to 1.O inch of rain 
bringing totals for today up to 2-3 inches in most areas impacted 
with some isolated 4 inch amounts. Areal Flood Advisory has been 
issued from mhwk valley and adjacent areas into S Vermont/Berkshire County 
for overnight to cover any small stream and urban flooding. 


This line should exit most of upstate New York/Vermont and west Massachusetts next 1.5 to 
2 hours...except Catskills and middle Hudson Valley where it is just 
arriving in areas that have not had much precipitation at all or since 
since late Tuesday afternoon. It should then diminish and end overnight 


At surface warm front is lifting NE through fca overnight and will be along 
north tier or north of region Wednesday morning. It will move to St Lawrence Valley to 
Michigan line...as weak low pressure forms along and propagates up 
it today. This leaves fca in warm sector with alot of residual 
low level moisture/clouds from Tuesday convection 


With dew point in 60s...temperatures rebounding to 80s...variable clouds the threat 
of thunderstorms increases through the day. Local WRF/hrrr which handled 
todays event well...show a mainly cellular and pulse response 
today in simulated refl. GFS produces surface convective available potential energy on the order of 
1000-2000 j/kg the NAM 2000-4000 j/kg with a define preference 
from the capital district S & east and the mhwk valley. 


NAM and GFS show h850-700 lapse rates around 6.5 this afternoon. 


Going to hrrr for the late aftn: 


Pou/alb/gfl 
cape 2000/1812/1777 
j/kg maximum wind 33/33/40 ehi of 1.6/1.5/1.2 
storm speed 24/18/18 
srh 175/156/106 
maglenta 1.75/2.17/2.44 all major severe 


Which is considerably stronger looking than hrrr refl. The NAM 
model soundings and WRF model soundings are considerably lower in 
cape around 1000-1200 j/kg. 


Precipitable waters  will continue to run a few Standard deviations above normal 
with values of 1.50-1.8 inches. 


Some other considerations low level jet at h850 hpa is 25-35kts...and 
bulk of it may pass west of fca. There is little additional upper 
forcing. Storm Prediction Center has outlooked New York portions of fca at this point will 
not try to get specific...will go with enhanced wording today. If 
theres a preferred area it would mhwk valley and S...and a preferred 
time of later in the afternoon and evening. 


Convection will continue into the evening hours and dim overnight as 
fca is firmly in warm section. Lows and dew point will be in the 
60s...and areas of patchy fog possible in the morning. 


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Short term /Thursday through Saturday night/... 
Thursday and Thursday nt 500hpa trough starts moving east through Great Lakes as surface 
low organizes along semi-stalled front from from Lake Erie up St 
Lawrence Valley. This system pushes slowly east dragging a cold front to 
btv-syr line Thursday afternoon...and through fca by 12utc Friday. NAM/GFS in 
pretty close agreement with this timing. While there is increasing 
dynamics with approaching jet and trough...convective available potential energy 1000-1500 ... 
will be widespread holding maximum temperatures to middle 70s to around 80. Storm Prediction Center has 
only put area in see text at this time...with low probs due to limited instability. 
Regardless area will see period of -shra/thunderstorms increasing Thursday...transitioning 
to -shra/-ra behind the cold front overnight. 


By Friday morning cold front will be in I-95 corridor along the Atlantic 
coast. 500hpa trough will be moving into NE USA...and both models 
develop a modest surface low over New Jersey. The warmth of past few days 
will give way to a cool breezy with -shra Friday. Finally surface low 
moves offshore Friday nt as high pressure builds into the Great Lakes. 
However the 500hpa trough lingers and cuts off over new eng Sat. 
Between these two systems a brisk northwest gradient will drive some 
pretty cool air into the region for late may. With 500hpa cut off 
lingering skies may only be plus Sat in GFS. 


Temperatures will probably go nowhere Friday...only coming off morning lows 
a few degree...or holding steady. 


The weekend forecast is deteriorating... 
the GFS is progressive with surface low departing the coast Friday 
nt...with its 500 hpa trough crossing region Sat and departing Sat 
nt with pc skies and a rather brisk wind gradient. 


The 00utc European model (ecmwf) cuts off the 500hpa low over New Jersey...develops a 
coastal low...which lingers along the East Coast for the weekend 
with periods of raw chilly rain. 


The GFS temperatures would bring mins Sat morning into the middle 30s to 
middle 40s with some near 30 and potential frost/freeze issues in 
adrndks. Highs Sat will only rebound even with the strong sun to 
the 60s. Lows Sat night would again be in the 30s. Winds will 
remain brisk. European model (ecmwf) would result in slightly warmer night time 
temperatures and cooler yet daytime temperatures in middle 50s to low 60s. HPC 
leans toward a blend with chance probability of precipitation lingering into Sat. It will be a 
fall like Memorial Day weekend. 


Will lean toward GFS/HPC blend through Sat. At this time will make no 
changes beyond Sat nt to minimize flip flopping given the spread 
in models solutions at this time. 


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Long term /Sunday through Tuesday/... 
Canadian high pressure will build into the region Sunday. The high 
will shift eastward across the region and offshore early next 
week. Temperatures will gradually moderate as the high shifts to 
the east with near seasonable temperatures for Monday. 


The growing season is underway across the middle Hudson Valley... 
greater capital district...Lake George Saratoga region...the Mohawk 
Valley...eastern Catskills...Taconics...Berkshires...Bennington and 
eastern Windham counties Vermont and Litchfield County. It will start on 
may 25th for the southern Adirondacks and western Windham County. 


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Aviation /07z Wednesday through Sunday/... 
accounting for current shower and thunderstorm activity that should 
continue at kgfl through about 06z...at kalb through about 
07z-08z...and kpsf through about 08z. Some MVFR and occasional IFR 
conditions in the showers and thunderstorms. Some other isolated 
thunderstorms well west of the area could approach the area between 
kalb and kpou through sunrise...but with continued stabilization of 
the atmosphere the thunderstorms could dissipate by then. 


Once the rain ends early this morning...there could be periods of 
MVFR fog and VFR ceilings...but scattered clouds could develop below 
1000 feet. Will have to monitor for any better clearing toward 
sunrise that could result in IFR fog and/or ceilings below 1000 
feet. For now not indicating any IFR conditions at any taf sites 
through the early morning hours...but will amend if conditions and 
trends change. 


VFR conditions should prevail through most of the day after 12z 
until new convection develops later in the afternoon and evening. 
Mixed signals about where the concentration of thunderstorms will be 
later today so putting vcsh in all tafs after 22z...but more 
thunderstorm activity expected scattered across the region late 
tomorrow afternoon and evening. 


Winds should be light south through sunrise...then become variable 
at less than 10 knots through the day tomorrow...mainly south to 
southwest. Winds should be light again tomorrow evening. Winds could 
be quite gusty in thunderstorms tomorrow afternoon and evening. 


Outlook... 
Wednesday...VFR/MVFR. Chance -shra/-tsra especially during the afternoon. 
Wednesday night...VFR/MVFR. At kgfl and kalb -shra/-tsra likely. At kpsf 
and kpou chance -shra/-tsra. 
Thursday...MVFR with IFR possible. -Shra/-tsra likely. 
Thursday night...VFR/MVFR. Chance -shra/-tsra especially in the evening. 
Friday...mainly VFR. Chance -tsra mainly in the am. 
Sat-sun...VFR. No sig weather. 


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Fire weather... 
no fire weather concerns through Friday. Occasional showers and 
thunderstorms will continue through Thursday night. Showers will 
continue into Friday. 


Relative humidity values will increase to 85 to 100 percent tonight...and 
Thursday night...and lower to 45 to 60 percent this afternoon. 


Winds will mainly less than 10 miles per hour through tonight...becoming 
southwest around 10mph Thursday. 


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Hydrology... 
precipitable waters  on the order of 1.5 to 2.0 inches next few days. While 
widespread flooding is not anticipated...locally heavy rainfall in 
thunderstorms and training could result in small stream and urban 
flooding overnight and again this afternoon. Significant within 
bank rises are likely in larger rivers. 


3-hour zonal ffg values are generally in the 2.5-3.0 inch range at 
this time...which are high for middle to late may. 


Due to the scattered nature of the showers and thunderstorms... 
basin average quantitative precipitation forecast will be highly variable this week. The best 
threat for seeing significant amounts of showers or thunderstorms 
will this afternoon into Thursday night. 


For details on specific area rivers and lakes...including observed 
and forecast river stages and lake elevations...please visit the 
advanced hydrologic prediction service /ahps/ graphs on our website. 


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Aly watches/warnings/advisories... 
CT...none. 
New York...none. 
Massachusetts...none. 
Vermont...none. 


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Synopsis...Snyder 
near term...Snyder 
short term...Snyder 
long term...iaa 
aviation...NAS 
fire weather...Snyder 
hydrology...Snyder